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Re: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)

2007-08-28 by Jimmy Lewis

Your piano will probably suffer from a drier air. It doesn't mean it will crack or not play well, but be assure that if there is any humidity left in the wood it will be removed with time. On the other hand, your piano might be old enough by now that the wood is has dry as it can get and it won't suffer much. The risk about the previous discussion is regarding a fresh, bran newpiano made for a warm and humid country and bring it back to a dryer one, the wood will suffer and crack after a short period of time. That is why I really beleive Yamaha use different technique in drying the wood use in piano for dryer country. It is not an exact science either.


Le 07-08-28 à 17:30, John Isella a écrit :

So what do I do with my Disklavier that I have here in Florida when I
move to Phoenix?

On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Carol Beigel wrote:

> Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works. It is extremely
> difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket units.
> The piano
> parts are often different as their dimensions are not always the
> same. The
> pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central heating
> systems.
>
> The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can create a
> liability for the supplier. On a gray market Disklavier, many
> connections
> are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US
> counterparts
> have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the wires.
>
> Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller operators and
> wholesalers. They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with their
> dealers.
>
> And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation. The U.S.
> Division, the
> Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely independent
> from one
>; another. They do not have a central supplier. Pianos are made
> differently
> for these different markets because it costs a lot more money to
> make a
> piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is very low
> during winter.
>;
> In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would never
> recommend
> purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier. Those up front supposed
> savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs servicing.
> One good
> thunderstorm can wipe out your investment.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rondisklavier" <setiawansr@aol.com>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)
>
>
>> I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily from
>> abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing small
>> parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think that
>> people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the
>> price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for US.
>> I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano is
>> broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for those
>> who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end of
>> the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha pianos go
>> bad is very small.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
>> ...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening, everyone.
>>>
>>> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled. However,
>> my
>>> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce a
>>> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> PianoBench
>>>
>>>
>;>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
>>>
>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are
>>>> selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only sell
>>>> parts through their dealers?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America,
>> you
>>>>> cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of
>> America.
>>>> And,
>>>>> it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your home
>>>> year
>>>>> round.
>>>>>
>>>>>; Regards,
>>>>> PianoBench
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>;>>> I always have question regarding the statement below. How
>> Yamaha
>>>>>> manufactured for special market, for example US. US climate
>> is
>>>> not one
>>>>>> climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia (from
>>>> South
>>>>>> East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior
>> year in
>>>>>> college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in
>> Jakarta,
>>>>>> Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different
>;> pianos
>>>> for
>>>>>> different climates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Their
>>>>>>> products are manufactured specifically for different
>>; markets.
>>>> The
>>>>>> pianos in
>>>>>>> particular are not interchangeable!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carol Beigel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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