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Re: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)

2007-08-28 by Jimmy Lewis

Let's not be sarcastic here. The wood will be stress if there is a lot of humidity remaining in it. Wood need to dry before it use, if not it will warp, crack, but certainly fall in pieces....

Jimmy
Le 07-08-28 à 17:56, rondisklavier a écrit :

I guess it will crack into small pieces....:))
It just does not make sense, does it!!!

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, John Isella .> wrote:
>
> So what do I do with my Disklavier that I have here in Florida
when I
> move to Phoenix?
>
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Carol Beigel wrote:
>
> > Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works. It is
extremely
> > difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket
units.
> > The piano
> > parts are often different as their dimensions are not always
the
> > same. The
> > pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central
heating
> > systems.
> >
> > The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can
create a
> > liability for the supplier. On a gray market Disklavier, many
> > connections
> > are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US
> > counterparts
> > have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the
wires.
> >
> > Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller
operators and
> > wholesalers. They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with
their
> > dealers.
> >
> > And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation. The U.S.
> > Division, the
> > Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely
independent
> >; from one
> > another. They do not have a central supplier. Pianos are made
> > differently
> > for these different markets because it costs a lot more money
to
> > make a
> > piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is
very low
> > during winter.
> >
> > In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would
never
> > recommend
> > purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier. Those up front
supposed
> > savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs
servicing.
> > One good
> > thunderstorm can wipe out your investment.
> >
> > Carol Beigel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rondisklavier" ...>
> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners
manual)
>; >
> >
> >> I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily
from
> >> abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing
small
> >> parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think
that
> >> people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the
> >> price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for
US.
> >> I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano
is
> >> broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for
those
> >> who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end
of
> >> the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha
pianos go
> >> bad is very small.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> >> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Good evening, everyone.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled.
However,
> >> my
>; >>> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce
a
> >>> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> PianoBench
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>; --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are
> >>>> selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only
sell
> >>>> parts through their dealers?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America,
> >> you
> >>>>> cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of
> >> America.
> >>>> And,
> >>>>> it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your home
> >>>> year
> >>>>> round.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> PianoBench
> >>>>>
> >>>>>;
> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I always have question regarding the statement below. How
> >> Yamaha
> >>>>>> manufactured for special market, for example US. US climate
> >> is
> >>>> not one
> >>>>>> climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia (from
> >>>> South
> >>>>>> East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior
> >> year in
> >>>>>> college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in
> >> Jakarta,
> >>>>>> Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different
> >> pianos
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> different climates.
> >>>>>>
> >;>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel"

> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Their
> >>>>>>> products are manufactured specifically for different
> >> markets.
> >>>> The
> >>>>>> pianos in
> >>>>>>> particular are not interchangeable!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>; >>>>>>> Carol Beigel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>;>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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