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RE: [PHISHING]: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

2007-11-11 by Neal Polan

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Hi Kevin,

I am feeling a little embarrassed to be "so behind & out of the loop". 

What platform does what you developed work on? Is it a laptop using wifi? I
already have a tablet (works great except it does not control Disklavier
radio) with my Mark lV. Will the tablet work with what you have developed?
Is there "no reason" to use this if I already have a tablet? 

The tablet already uses wifi to connect my piano to the internet Disklavier
radio etc. And of course the prc remote connects to the piano wirelessly. I
even extended the remotes range by replacing the cf card with a wireless
card using the i/o pc card slot with small antenna (under piano).

What you have done sounds really good. Especially adding search and drag and
drop abilities to the play list. Thanks for all you have done.

Neal

 

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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:09 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PHISHING]: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for
MKIV

 

Wow, Hugo, thank you!

I was really concerned that it wouldn't work at all, so this is really
encouraging!

How would you envision the playlists working?  Just mimic the playlists that
are already on the piano?  That might be simplest.  Since I'm so new to the
piano itself, I haven't played with playlists at all.  The PDA/table
interface feels clunky, so I'd really like DKVBrowser to evolve into
something that supports drag and drop to create playlists.  Also, editing of
song titles, etc. right in the browser would be nice as well.

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: "hugofon@..." <hugofon@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:40:02 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

Kevin,


I just tried your alpha release.  Wow, it works great on my DC2 Mark IV. I
don't have any problem at all.  I have a database of approximately 500 songs
on the hard drive, and the browser produces a very accurate list of my
softwares.  

I have been following this discussion closely, but I have not participated
in the discussion as I am really not a computer guy and have nothing
techical to contribute.  Thank you so much for taking your time to work on
this project.  Your work is greatly appreciated.  I can't wait for your
future releases with more functionalities. ..... Perhaps a playlist or my
favorites would be wonderful.  Thanks again.

Hugo


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

Well, I uploaded the alpha release.

Please try it out and let me know how it goes.  This is my first ever java
app, and getting these things into a working jar file was an experience!
The uploaded rar file includes the swt.jar for windows, with instructions
for where to find it for other operating systems.

It's pretty crude at the moment, and doesn't yet support exporting the data.
There's probably lots of other things it doesn't support as well, since I
have limited experience with the piano itself.  It also has only been tested
against my piano which has very little data, so I don't know how well it
behaves with HUGE databases.  Okay, enough disclaimers. ..Have fun!

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 6:00:48 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

I believe <remake_db/> is sent when a usb drive is inserted or removed.
There may be some attributes on there that tell you which db, or it might be
something like "Update your local cache of the db now".  
If you make a query while the software is building the table, you will see
the songs that have been added at that point in time.  This shouldn't be of
much concern; it usually only takes 30 sec to add everything to the songs
table, even for large amounts of files on a drive. 

I don't think there was a column for artist.  If there was, I think it
contained the same info as the title.  But yes, Yamaha seems to put the
artist within the title.  I believe you can set the comment on the song and
album using the PRC's keyboard.  Hardly anyone would want to though - quite
a laborious task poking tiny buttons.  I also seem to remember being able to
set the songs rating from 1 to 5 stars using the PRC/TRC.  Never
investigated that much personally though. 
Matthew

On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com <mailto:kgoroway@...> >
wrote: 

Matthew,

I'm at work, so I can't check now, but does the piano send any notification
of when it has finished building the table? 

I've seen <remake_db /> come out for both the CD and the FD even though
there was nothing mounted.

Any way to query for what is already mounted? 

Otherwise...

There had been a request for the ability to search by artist, but I don't
see anything explicit in the schema for artist.  It looks like it is
normally stored as part of the song title (judging from the demos).  This
will work fine with my current search. 

The fields which might be interesting to search by are as follows:
song filename (already done)
song rating (is there any current way to give a song a rating?  If not, I
wouldn't want to assume one and break a future release.)
song "your_record" (No idea what is here, maybe nothing, and no way to set
it? 
song comment (is there any way to enter this currently?)
song title (already done)
song subtitle (already done)
song genre (is there any way to enter this currently?)
album rating (see song rating)
album comment (is there any way to enter this currently?) 
album title (already done)
album subtitle (are these used?)

Anyway, adding others is trivial at this point.  So, I'll have to
investigate what is in the database when I get home.

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com <mailto:mrmuk7@...> >
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 10:27:19 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

The tables for each media (ex. usb_album and usb_song) are only created when
that media is inserted.  It takes a few seconds for the software to create
the table, so if you insert and immediately query, you will miss results.
The tables are recreated each insertion.  This is discussed more in our
paper. 
Matthew

On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway < kgoroway@yahoo. com <mailto:kgoroway@...>
> wrote: 

I made a bunch of progress last night.  Search is fully implemented, and
works great (and FAST).  Of course, my database is tiny compared to some of
yours, so I'll have to get some feedback from those of you who try it. 

I did expect the USB and FLOPPY tables to exist in the database even when
they weren't mounted...but that turned out not to be the case.  So, tonight
I have to work on some code to understand when those are mounted and when
they aren't. 

I have no plans to support the copying of files between the sources,
especially the protected ones.  

Release this weekend (as an alpha version) is looking quite likely.

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@nc. rr.com <mailto:tnwheeler@...>  >

To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 



Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:29:46 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV 

Kevin,

 

It is scenario no. 3 below that describes how my Mark IV is connected.

 

Again, thanks for working on this and I look forward to ultimately trying
out your work when you are ready to release it.   

 

Tom

 

On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:





Well, one of things everyone will need to understand is the requirements for
using it...so no harm in leaving it in this thread for now.

I still think we have some confusion over what you are seeing on wireless.
So, let me try again. 

Scenario #1) You have a wireless card on your computer, you have nothing
connected to your DKV's ethernet port.

In this scenario, your wireless card might tell you that there is a wireless
access point out there, and you can hop on it, but there is nothing to be
found.  And, you have no access whatsoever to the To/From PC folder. 

Scenario #2) Like #1, but you have a hard wire connection to your
router/switch from the DKV's ethernet port.

Like the first scenario, but now you have access to the To/From PC folder.

Scenario #3) Like #1, but you have attacted wireless hardware to the DKV's
ethernet port, turning it into a wireless device. 

In this situation, your wireless card has 2 choices.  One is the access
point connected to the DKV's ethernet port, the other is the access point
that the PDA/Tablet use.  If your wireless card attached to one, you'll see
the To/From PC folder, if it attaches to the other...there' s nothing to be
found. 

Just to be clear, in all 3 of those cases you can use the software, just as
long as you can convince your wireless card to hop onto the access point
that is there for the PDA.

Your wife can certainly contact me directly.  I plan to put the searching in
this weekend, and have the source code ready for release before Monday.
(although you threw in the new feature of being able to search by artist
which I hadn't considered. :-)  ) 

-Kevin

 

 


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