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Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

2007-11-11 by Tom Wheeler

Kevin,

It did not work for us.  We were able to get the DLRC to work by  
setting the IP to 192.168.11.15, so I guess we need a way to configure  
the IP.  (We could not get anything but the page 1 functionality of  
DLRC to work -- there were java errors on the other pages.

The error we get from your program is "Unable to establish wireless  
connection to piano>"

Thanks for your efforts.

On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:

> Well, I uploaded the alpha release.
>
> Please try it out and let me know how it goes.  This is my first  
> ever java app, and getting these things into a working jar file was  
> an experience!  The uploaded rar file includes the swt.jar for  
> windows, with instructions for where to find it for other operating  
> systems.
>
> It's pretty crude at the moment, and doesn't yet support exporting  
> the data.  There's probably lots of other things it doesn't support  
> as well, since I have limited experience with the piano itself.  It  
> also has only been tested against my piano which has very little  
> data, so I don't know how well it behaves with HUGE databases.   
> Okay, enough disclaimers...Have fun!
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 6:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
>
> I believe <remake_db/> is sent when a usb drive is inserted or  
> removed.  There may be some attributes on there that tell you which  
> db, or it might be something like "Update your local cache of the db  
> now".
> If you make a query while the software is building the table, you  
> will see the songs that have been added at that point in time.  This  
> shouldn't be of much concern; it usually only takes 30 sec to add  
> everything to the songs table, even for large amounts of files on a  
> drive.
>
> I don't think there was a column for artist.  If there was, I think  
> it contained the same info as the title.  But yes, Yamaha seems to  
> put the artist within the title.  I believe you can set the comment  
> on the song and album using the PRC's keyboard.  Hardly anyone would  
> want to though - quite a laborious task poking tiny buttons.  I also  
> seem to remember being able to set the songs rating from 1 to 5  
> stars using the PRC/TRC.  Never investigated that much personally  
> though.
> Matthew
>
>
> On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> I'm at work, so I can't check now, but does the piano send any  
> notification of when it has finished building the table?
>
> I've seen <remake_db /> come out for both the CD and the FD even  
> though there was nothing mounted.
>
> Any way to query for what is already mounted?
>
> Otherwise...
>
> There had been a request for the ability to search by artist, but I  
> don't see anything explicit in the schema for artist.  It looks like  
> it is normally stored as part of the song title (judging from the  
> demos).  This will work fine with my current search.
>
> The fields which might be interesting to search by are as follows:
> song filename (already done)
> song rating (is there any current way to give a song a rating?  If  
> not, I wouldn't want to assume one and break a future release.)
> song "your_record" (No idea what is here, maybe nothing, and no way  
> to set it?
> song comment (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> song title (already done)
> song subtitle (already done)
> song genre (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> album rating (see song rating)
> album comment (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> album title (already done)
> album subtitle (are these used?)
>
> Anyway, adding others is trivial at this point.  So, I'll have to  
> investigate what is in the database when I get home.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 10:27:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
>
> The tables for each media (ex. usb_album and usb_song) are only  
> created when that media is inserted.  It takes a few seconds for the  
> software to create the table, so if you insert and immediately  
> query, you will miss results.  The tables are recreated each  
> insertion.  This is discussed more in our paper.
> Matthew
>
>
> On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway < kgoroway@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> I made a bunch of progress last night.  Search is fully implemented,  
> and works great (and FAST).  Of course, my database is tiny compared  
> to some of yours, so I'll have to get some feedback from those of  
> you who try it.
>
> I did expect the USB and FLOPPY tables to exist in the database even  
> when they weren't mounted...but that turned out not to be the case.   
> So, tonight I have to work on some code to understand when those are  
> mounted and when they aren't.
>
> I have no plans to support the copying of files between the sources,  
> especially the protected ones.
>
> Release this weekend (as an alpha version) is looking quite likely.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@nc. rr.com >
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:29:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
>
> Kevin,
>
>
> It is scenario no. 3 below that describes how my Mark IV is connected.
>
> Again, thanks for working on this and I look forward to ultimately  
> trying out your work when you are ready to release it.
>
> Tom
>
> On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:
>
>> Well, one of things everyone will need to understand is the  
>> requirements for using it...so no harm in leaving it in this thread  
>> for now.
>>
>> I still think we have some confusion over what you are seeing on  
>> wireless.  So, let me try again.
>>
>> Scenario #1) You have a wireless card on your computer, you have  
>> nothing connected to your DKV's ethernet port.
>>
>> In this scenario, your wireless card might tell you that there is a  
>> wireless access point out there, and you can hop on it, but there  
>> is nothing to be found.  And, you have no access whatsoever to the  
>> To/From PC folder.
>>
>> Scenario #2) Like #1, but you have a hard wire connection to your  
>> router/switch from the DKV's ethernet port.
>>
>> Like the first scenario, but now you have access to the To/From PC  
>> folder.
>>
>> Scenario #3) Like #1, but you have attacted wireless hardware to  
>> the DKV's ethernet port, turning it into a wireless device.
>>
>> In this situation, your wireless card has 2 choices.  One is the  
>> access point connected to the DKV's ethernet port, the other is the  
>> access point that the PDA/Tablet use.  If your wireless card  
>> attached to one, you'll see the To/From PC folder, if it attaches  
>> to the other...there' s nothing to be found.
>>
>> Just to be clear, in all 3 of those cases you can use the software,  
>> just as long as you can convince your wireless card to hop onto the  
>> access point that is there for the PDA.
>>
>> Your wife can certainly contact me directly.  I plan to put the  
>> searching in this weekend, and have the source code ready for  
>> release before Monday.  (although you threw in the new feature of  
>> being able to search by artist which I hadn't considered. :-)  )
>>
>> -Kevin
>
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