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Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV

2007-11-14 by kgoroway

(sorry if this is a duplicate, I just noticed that some of my replies
didn't ever make it to the group)

DKVBrowser and the PDA (and tablet) will (and do) share the playlists.
 It's all stored on the piano. Try the latest version.

Drag and drop isn't there yet, but I'm working on it.  For now, it
allows you to at least play a playlist, which the first version didn't.

Editing the song/album title is there (for a pianosoft and user
sections only, for now, since the others seem transient anyway). 
Editting the other metadata of the songs (subtitle, genre, rating,
etc) is easily done, but not there.

DKVBrowser automatically tries to wake the DKV out of standby every
time you run it...this is harmless if it is already running, so it
just does it every time.

Glad it's working for someone!  Now to figure out Tom's issue...

-Kevin



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, hugofon@... wrote:
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> Kevin,
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> I think it would be a good idea if the playlists?on the PDA can be
copied to DKVBrowser.??And you are right about the PDA being
clunky.....?So if DKVBrowser can support drag and drop playlists
similar to most of the media players out there, it would be a great
time saving tool to create new playlists suitable for the mood of the
evening.? Would it be possible for the DKVBrowser playlists to be
copied to the PDA/piano?? I am not really sure?if that information is
stored on the PDA or the piano.
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> Editing the song info in the Browser would indeed be a nice feature
to have too.? I remember reading many previous posts with questions
about editing the metadata of the songs.? It sounds like the
possibilities are endless here.? 
> 
> I did not have an issue with the IP address.? My laptop?was
configured to accept DHCP assignment, and the Disklavier access point
assigned the same dummy IP of 192.168.88.14 to my wireless card every
time a connection was made.??I also noticed that?a connection could be
made even when the paino was?in standby mode. Perhaps the access point
was simply waiting for the PDA to be turned on.? Also, by launching
the DKVBrowser and searching for softwares, the piano came out of the
standby mode and could start playing.
> 
> Please keep up the good work.? Thanks again.
> 
> Hugo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Wow, Hugo, thank you!
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> I was really concerned that it wouldn't work at all, so this is
really encouraging!
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> How would you envision the playlists working?? Just mimic the
playlists that are already on the piano?? That might be simplest.?
Since I'm so new to the piano itself, I haven't played with playlists
at all.? The PDA/table interface feels clunky, so I'd really like
DKVBrowser to evolve into something that supports drag and drop to
create playlists.? Also, editing of song titles, etc. right in the
browser would be nice as well.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "hugofon@..." <hugofon@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:40:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Kevin,
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> I just tried your alpha release.? Wow, it works great on my DC2 Mark
IV. I don't have any problem at all.? I have a database of
approximately 500 songs on the hard drive, and the browser produces a
very accurate list of my softwares.? 
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> I have been following this discussion closely, but I have not
participated in the discussion as I am really not a computer guy and
have nothing techical to contribute.? Thank you so much for taking
your time to work on this project.? Your work is greatly appreciated.?
I can't wait for your future releases with more functionalities. .....
Perhaps a playlist or my favorites would be wonderful.? Thanks again.
> 
> Hugo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 4:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> Well, I uploaded the alpha release.
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> Please try it out and let me know how it goes.? This is my first
ever java app, and getting these things into a working jar file was an
experience!? The uploaded rar file includes the swt.jar for windows,
with instructions for where to find it for other operating systems.
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> It's pretty crude at the moment, and doesn't yet support exporting
the data.? There's probably lots of other things it doesn't support as
well, since I have limited experience with the piano itself.? It also
has only been tested against my piano which has very little data, so I
don't know how well it behaves with HUGE databases.? Okay, enough
disclaimers. ..Have fun!
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 6:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> I believe <remake_db/> is sent when a usb drive is inserted or
removed.? There may be some attributes on there that tell you which
db, or it might be something like "Update your local cache of the db
now".? 
> If you make a query while the software is building the table, you
will see the songs that have been added at that point in time.? This
shouldn't be of much concern; it usually only takes 30 sec to add
everything to the songs table, even for large amounts of files on a
drive. 
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> I don't think there was a column for artist.? If there was, I think
it contained the same info as the title.? But yes, Yamaha seems to put
the artist within the title.? I believe you can set the comment on the
song and album using the PRC's keyboard.? Hardly anyone would want to
though - quite a laborious task poking tiny buttons.? I also seem to
remember being able to set the songs rating from 1 to 5 stars using
the PRC/TRC.? Never investigated that much personally though. 
> Matthew
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> On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@yahoo. com> wrote: 
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> Matthew,
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> I'm at work, so I can't check now, but does the piano send any
notification of when it has finished building the table? 
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> I've seen <remake_db /> come out for both the CD and the FD even
though there was nothing mounted.
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> Any way to query for what is already mounted? 
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> Otherwise...
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> There had been a request for the ability to search by artist, but I
don't see anything explicit in the schema for artist.? It looks like
it is normally stored as part of the song title (judging from the
demos).? This will work fine with my current search. 
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> The fields which might be interesting to search by are as follows:
> song filename (already done)
> song rating (is there any current way to give a song a rating?? If
not, I wouldn't want to assume one and break a future release.)
> song "your_record" (No idea what is here, maybe nothing, and no way
to set it? 
> song comment (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> song title (already done)
> song subtitle (already done)
> song genre (is there any way to enter this currently?)
> album rating (see song rating)
> album comment (is there any way to enter this currently?) 
> album title (already done)
> album subtitle (are these used?)
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> Anyway, adding others is trivial at this point.? So, I'll have to
investigate what is in the database when I get home.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@gmail. com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 10:27:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV
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> The tables for each media (ex. usb_album and usb_song) are only
created when that media is inserted.? It takes a few seconds for the
software to create the table, so if you insert and immediately query,
you will miss results.? The tables are recreated each insertion.? This
is discussed more in our paper. 
> Matthew
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> On 11/9/07, Kevin Goroway < kgoroway@yahoo. com> wrote: 
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> I made a bunch of progress last night.? Search is fully implemented,
and works great (and FAST).? Of course, my database is tiny compared
to some of yours, so I'll have to get some feedback from those of you
who try it. 
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> I did expect the USB and FLOPPY tables to exist in the database even
when they weren't mounted...but that turned out not to be the case.?
So, tonight I have to work on some code to understand when those are
mounted and when they aren't. 
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> I have no plans to support the copying of files between the sources,
especially the protected ones.? 
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> Release this weekend (as an alpha version) is looking quite likely.
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> -Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@nc. rr.com >
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> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
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> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:29:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Alternative to tablet and PDA for MKIV 
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> Kevin,
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> It is scenario no. 3 below that describes how my Mark IV is connected.
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> Again, thanks for working on this and I look forward to ultimately
trying out your work when you are ready to release it. ? 
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> Tom
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> On Nov 8, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Kevin Goroway wrote:
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> Well, one of things everyone will need to understand is the
requirements for using it...so no harm in leaving it in this thread
for now.
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> I still think we have some confusion over what you are seeing on
wireless.? So, let me try again. 
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> Scenario #1) You have a wireless card on your computer, you have
nothing connected to your DKV's ethernet port.
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> In this scenario, your wireless card might tell you that there is a
wireless access point out there, and you can hop on it, but there is
nothing to be found.? And, you have no access whatsoever to the
To/From PC folder. 
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> Scenario #2) Like #1, but you have a hard wire connection to your
router/switch from the DKV's ethernet port.
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> Like the first scenario, but now you have access to the To/From PC
folder.
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> Scenario #3) Like #1, but you have attacted wireless hardware to the
DKV's ethernet port, turning it into a wireless device. 
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> In this situation, your wireless card has 2 choices.? One is the
access point connected to the DKV's ethernet port, the other is the
access point that the PDA/Tablet use.? If your wireless card attached
to one, you'll see the To/From PC folder, if it attaches to the
other...there' s nothing to be found. 
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> Just to be clear, in all 3 of those cases you can use the software,
just as long as you can convince your wireless card to hop onto the
access point that is there for the PDA.
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> Your wife can certainly contact me directly.? I plan to put the
searching in this weekend, and have the source code ready for release
before Monday.? (although you threw in the new feature of being able
to search by artist which I hadn't considered. :-)? ) 
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