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Re[2]: [disklavier] Re: Getting PianoSoft Midi Files into Audio Format

2009-01-24 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings George,


If anyone has a need for this, I'll write a little program to do it on
a batch basis for those who do not have a sequencer program to edit
the files.

Friday, January 23, 2009, 5:47:56 PM, you wrote:
> Good morning, everyone.

> If the problem is limited to PianoSoft Plus files, I suspect that
> you have files in which the piano tracks have a message that sets controller 7 (volume) = 0.

> The earliest Disklaviers paid no attention to the MIDI message
> controller 7 as far as the piano was concerned. And, those early
> Disklaviers did not have a tone generator.

> When Yamaha started to develop song files with other MIDI tracks,
> they found that if you played the files on an early model Disklavier
> with a tone generator attached, all of the MIDI tracks would be sent
> to the external tone generator. As a result, you would hear the
> piano tracks played twice: once played by the tone generator and once played by the piano itself.

> So, Yamaha put in the controller 7 = 0 message in the piano tracks
> to make sure that the piano tracks were muted on the external tone generator.

> Of course, this fix was unnecessary on newer Disklaviers, but they
> wanted the same files to be compatible with all Disklaviers.

> At this point, in the history of the Disklavier, Yamaha needed to
> come up with a way to make PianoSoft Plus files play correctly on
> all Disklaviers. So, they added a behind-the-scenes feature to the
> Mark II and later: these later instruments do respond to controller
> 7 data for the piano but they uniquely interpret controller 7 = 0 as controller 7 = 100.

> The end result is that you need to edit these files and set
> controller 7 = 100 for the piano tracks.

> Regards,
> PianoBench

> www.georgelitterst.com
> www.timewarptech.com

> On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:32 PM, sjhart110110 wrote:


> Got the pianosoft solo titles to work. Can't figure out the multi 
> channel eseq files. I'm getting closer to having a poor man's Mark 
> IV!  

> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sjhart110110" <sjhart110@...> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help. With this utility I get the files over to my 
>> hard drive, but when I read them with MIDI2PIANOCD (or using the 
>> ESEQ2MID routine), all that plays (after converting to audio and 
>> moving to my ipod) is the pedals with no piano sound. Like part of 
>> the MIDI channels are missing. I also copied some files that are 
>> stored in my memory on my control box to diskette. These are 
>> pianosoft+ (with instruments) and all I hear are the instruments 
> and 
>> no piano.... Any other thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, ISKI1@ wrote:
>> >
>> > Use RootARipper instead of DKVCOPY.
>> > http://www.carolrpt.com/musicsoftware.htm
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > RootARipper
>> > 
>> > The nice thing about this copy utility is that it copies files on 
>> floppy disks to your hard drive on XP computers. It saves the 
> trouble 
>> of duplicating a copy-protected disk first, then moving the files 
> to 
>> a hard drive.
>> > 
>> > If they are ESEQ files they will have a .fil extension.
>> > 
>> > If not play them with Yampalyer and select convert to midi.
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: sjhart110110 <sjhart110@>
>> > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:06 pm
>> > Subject: [disklavier] Re: Getting PianoSoft Midi Files into Audio 
>> Format
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I think I'm running into the issue of how to exactly copy these 
>> > disks. For example, I have both 720 formatted diskettes and the 
>> > pianosoft titles that I "downloaded" from their store (2HD). Even 
>> > the one I copied is having problems. I used the DKVCOPY utlity to 
>> > copy a downloaded 2HD diskette onto another 2HD diskette. 
> However, 
>> > most of the files are corrupt and/or won't play, etc. Probably 
>> wasn't 
>> > designed for this! What is the process to take Pianosoft 
> diskettes 
>> > and copy it correctly so it can be read by the MID2PianoCD? 
>> > Obviously the program can't read them directly because an 
> original 
>> > diskette does not work (can't be viewed). Frustrating, but I 
>> > recognize that these technologies are old and based upon the 
>> various 
>> > disklaviers over the years. Thanks for any help. 
>> > 
>> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "mfontana@" <mfontana@> 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > sjhart wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > Made some progress. If I use the DKVCOPY, I can make a copy 
> of 
>> > the
>> > > > disk which is then viewable. However, these .FIL files 
> (assume 
>> > they
>> > > > are ESEQ files?) don't work when I run the ESEQ2MID. I've 
> copied
>> > > > them from the diskette into a folder on my hard drive. When I 
>> try
>> > > > and convert the files, it states that they are not ESEQ files.
>> > > > However, if I put the new copy in my piano, it plays fine. So,
>> > > > probably need a way to convert these files to midi (and then 
> I 
>> can
>> > > > convert to audio).
>> > > 
>> > > MID2PianoCD supports converting .fil files (ESEQ format) 
> directly 
>> > to 
>> > > encoded audio. You shouldn't need to convert them to MIDI 
> format 
>> > first.
>> > > 
>> > > By the way, on the Advanced settings page, make sure you have 
> set 
>> > the 
>> > > source velocity profile to "Disklavier" so that the note 
>> > velocities 
>> > > are left as-is.
>> > > 
>> > > Let me know if you have any trouble...
>> > > 
>> > > Mark Fontana
>> > >
>> >
>>


> =  

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