Greetings Joseph, If the pedal events are on and off, not progressive, there should be no difference between the file and what the piano does. Progressive or proportional events are subject to more interpretation. (The LX is an exception to this in that it creates progressive pedaling from on/off pedaling on the fly) If a piano does not respond to a pedal on (controller 64 level 127) and lift the dampers, there is a problem with the piano. There is nothing you can do in the MIDI file to fix it. If you have a piano that has problems with progressive pedaling it may be useful to convert to on/off pedaling. I have a program that does that but any decent modern solenoid player should not have problems with either on/off pedaling or any reasonable progressive pedaling. If you have isolated problems with pedaling that are in the file, you can correct them in Cakewalk. If you have pervasive problems caused by a mismatch between the source and target instrument or a problem with the target instrument that you can not fix by setup or regulation you will more likely need to process the pedal data with programs dedicated to the task. Cakewalk has an application development language (CAL) that you can use to automate the modification of MIDI events. I use other methods to do the same. If you want things to sound right, the highest priority is to insure your player is performing correctly. It does not make sense to modify well made files to match a badly regulated instrument. Badly made files or ones that just do not match the performance characteristics of your instrument can (in certain cases) be improved by automatic methods but it is likely that you will need a lot of practice to be able to do this. Be aware of the fact that much music available for free may not be intended to operate your instrument properly and that some of it is just plain awful. Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:07:32 PM, you wrote: Thanks George I will look into the Cakewalk program. The question now is why doesn't the piano play what's written in the midi file and would I be able to correct the problem with the Cakewalk program. Cheers, Joseph From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...> To: Joseph Schembri <jschembri2000@...> Cc: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 7:24:22 PM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Sustaining pedal - Issue or not? Good evening, everyone. Joseph, I received your MIDI file when you sent to me directly. The file contains a lot of sustain pedal messages. They are on/off messages (i.e. values 127 and 0) with no incremental messages. Sonar Home Studio from Cakewalk is a very fine sequencer for under $100. It works on Windows systems. Regards, PianoBench On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joseph Schembri wrote: Hi George, I did what Carol suggested and checked the pedal movement , all seems well there. Attached is a Midi file that was converted from a FIL that I think should contain some pedal. Also googled some midi sequencing programs that show you what's happening. There were many but since I have many files to check I'd like to purchase one that you recommend. I only need one to read the instructions so I can determine what the file contains . Thanks Joseph From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@aol. com> To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 4:22:25 PM Subject: Re: [disklavier] Sustaining pedal - Issue or not? Good afternoon, everyone. The MIDI message for the sustain pedal is controller 64. When it has a value of 0, the pedal is a rest. When it has a value of 127, it is fully depressed. If there is a value between 0 and 127, that value represents a partially depressed pedal. If the file is a normal ".mid" file, the MIDI data can be checked in a sequencer. If the file is a ".fil" file, the file probably needs to be converted to a ".mid" file in order to be checked with a sequencer. When checking for controller 64 data, one must be certain to look at data that applies to the piano part as opposed to an accompaniment part. If you are able to email the file to me, I can tell you where the piano part has MIDI data. Regards, PianoBench On Jan 3, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Carol Beigel wrote: It probably needs just a little adjustment. I believe the MIDI message for the pedal is a Controller 7 message. IF you look inside the piano, while depressing the pedal, is there any lost motion? In other words, can you press the pedal down (any amount) before the damper felts start coming away from the strings? If so, have the technician come back and check the adjustment of the pedal. Carol Beigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph" <jschembri2000@ yahoo.com> To: <disklavier@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:49 PM Subject: [disklavier] Sustaining pedal - Issue or not? > Happy New Year > > I have a DU1E3 and had the first of the Yamaha tunings. At that time my > technician installed upgrade 2.20 CSP E3 V2.12. Since that upgrade it > appears that the sustaining pedal doesn't occur as frequently as I > remember or on songs that obviously call for it. 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Re: [disklavier] Sustaining pedal - Issue or not?
2010-01-04 by Spencer_Lists