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2013-03-14 by discodonal
I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ?
2013-03-14 by gmtmt
I had the same problem with Sonos speakers system. The answer a stereo line level booster. I bought one at best buy JEC Model TC780LCIt works great. Plug the output from the DKC 850 into the box and take the output to the speakders. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "discodonal" <discodonal@...> wrote:
> > I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? >
2013-03-14 by Adrian Thomas
2013-03-14 by Donal Galvin
I am using a cable. I just can't believe the phono outputs are that low on the dkc 850. I am going to look at a stereo line booster which may do the job. Regards Donal
On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:39, Adrian Thomas <mangez@freenetname.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > if you're using a WiFi adaptor connected to the LAN port on the piano, the problem is likely to be with the WiFi system. If you're connecting via cable, check the volume/balance settings on the piano. If all that is OK, you might have to try a different connection on your AV Receiver or use a Mic pre-amp before going into the receiver. > > Adrian Thomas > > On Mar 14 2013, discodonal wrote: > > >I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@YahooGroups.com > > > >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: > >disklavier-owner@... > > > >To reach our group's web site go to: > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > >disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > >Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > >disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2013-03-14 by Phil Becker
This is indeed a "feature" of the DKC-850, the audio outputs are about half the level they were on older contollers. A booster does fix the issue. _____ From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donal Galvin Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:43 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers I am using a cable. I just can't believe the phono outputs are that low on the dkc 850. I am going to look at a stereo line booster which may do the job. Regards Donal On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:39, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote: Hi, if you're using a WiFi adaptor connected to the LAN port on the piano, the problem is likely to be with the WiFi system. If you're connecting via cable, check the volume/balance settings on the piano. If all that is OK, you might have to try a different connection on your AV Receiver or use a Mic pre-amp before going into the receiver. Adrian Thomas On Mar 14 2013, discodonal wrote: >I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > > >------------------------------------ > >To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: >disklavier-owner@... > >To reach our group's web site go to: >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
>disklavier-unsubscribe@... > >Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: >disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2013-03-14 by Adrian Thomas
2013-03-14 by kassey22000
Hi. I tried to find the JEC model listed below, but had no luck on a number of electronics shops and online. I also run Sonos with my Disklavier both for wirelessly controlling the DKC but also as a distributed music system. A preamp might be a good fix so please let me know more about the model you selected. Thanks! --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
> > I had the same problem with Sonos speakers system. The answer a stereo line level booster. I bought one at best buy JEC Model TC780LCIt works great. Plug the output from the DKC 850 into the box and take the output to the speakders. > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "discodonal" <discodonal@> wrote: > > > > I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > >
2013-03-14 by Phil Becker
It's available at Amazon at the following link: http://www.amazon.com/TC-780LC-Stereo-Booster-BLACK-VERSION/dp/B000RZXAHI _____
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kassey22000 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:57 PM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers Hi. I tried to find the JEC model listed below, but had no luck on a number of electronics shops and online. I also run Sonos with my Disklavier both for wirelessly controlling the DKC but also as a distributed music system. A preamp might be a good fix so please let me know more about the model you selected. Thanks! --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote: > > I had the same problem with Sonos speakers system. The answer a stereo line level booster. I bought one at best buy JEC Model TC780LCIt works great. Plug the output from the DKC 850 into the box and take the output to the speakders. > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , "discodonal" <discodonal@> wrote: > > > > I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > >
2013-03-15 by sjhart110110
Wonder if this was done because of the integrated Amps on many pianos are pro audio types which don't require as much input. Output is plenty loud on my DC3A... SJ --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Becker" <phil@...> wrote:
> > This is indeed a "feature" of the DKC-850, the audio outputs are about half > the level they were on older contollers. > > A booster does fix the issue. > > _____ > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Donal Galvin > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:43 AM > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers > > > > > > I am using a cable. I just can't believe the phono outputs are that low on > the dkc 850. I am going to look at a stereo line booster which may do the > job. > > Regards > > Donal > > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:39, Adrian Thomas <mangez@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > if you're using a WiFi adaptor connected to the LAN port on the piano, the > problem is likely to be with the WiFi system. If you're connecting via > cable, check the volume/balance settings on the piano. If all that is OK, > you might have to try a different connection on your AV Receiver or use a > Mic pre-amp before going into the receiver. > > Adrian Thomas > > On Mar 14 2013, discodonal wrote: > > >I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I > took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but > the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal > strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > > >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, > send it to: > >disklavier-owner@... > > > >To reach our group's web site go to: > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will > fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist > on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > >disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > > >Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > >disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2013-03-15 by n9505l
Does the booster eliminate the need for amplified speakers? --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sjhart110110" <sjhart110@...> wrote:
> > > Wonder if this was done because of the integrated Amps on many pianos are pro audio types which don't require as much input. Output is plenty loud on my DC3A... SJ > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Becker" <phil@> wrote: > > > > This is indeed a "feature" of the DKC-850, the audio outputs are about half > > the level they were on older contollers. > > > > A booster does fix the issue. > > > > _____ > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Donal Galvin > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:43 AM > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using a cable. I just can't believe the phono outputs are that low on > > the dkc 850. I am going to look at a stereo line booster which may do the > > job. > > > > Regards > > > > Donal > > > > > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:39, Adrian Thomas <mangez@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > if you're using a WiFi adaptor connected to the LAN port on the piano, the > > problem is likely to be with the WiFi system. If you're connecting via > > cable, check the volume/balance settings on the piano. If all that is OK, > > you might have to try a different connection on your AV Receiver or use a > > Mic pre-amp before going into the receiver. > > > > Adrian Thomas > > > > On Mar 14 2013, discodonal wrote: > > > > >I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I > > took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but > > the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal > > strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@ > > > > > >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, > > send it to: > > >disklavier-owner@ > > > > > >To reach our group's web site go to: > > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will > > fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist > > on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > >disklavier-unsubscribe@ > > > > > >Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > >disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this link: > > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2013-03-15 by Phil Becker
No. Itj ust brings the low line levels of the DKC-850 up to enough to drive an average amp line input jack (and a bit more). _____ From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n9505l Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:57 PM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers Does the booster eliminate the need for amplified speakers? --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , "sjhart110110" <sjhart110@...> wrote: > > > Wonder if this was done because of the integrated Amps on many pianos are pro audio types which don't require as much input. Output is plenty loud on my DC3A... SJ > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , "Phil Becker" <phil@> wrote: > > > > This is indeed a "feature" of the DKC-850, the audio outputs are about half > > the level they were on older contollers. > > > > A booster does fix the issue. > > > > _____ > > > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > > Behalf Of Donal Galvin > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:43 AM > > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [disklavier] Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using a cable. I just can't believe the phono outputs are that low on > > the dkc 850. I am going to look at a stereo line booster which may do the > > job. > > > > Regards > > > > Donal > > > > > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 16:39, Adrian Thomas <mangez@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > if you're using a WiFi adaptor connected to the LAN port on the piano, the > > problem is likely to be with the WiFi system. If you're connecting via > > cable, check the volume/balance settings on the piano. If all that is OK, > > you might have to try a different connection on your AV Receiver or use a > > Mic pre-amp before going into the receiver. > > > > Adrian Thomas > > > > On Mar 14 2013, discodonal wrote: > > > > >I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I > > took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but > > the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal > > strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@ > > > > > >To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, > > send it to: > > >disklavier-owner@ > > > > > >To reach our group's web site go to: > > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > > >THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > >If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, > > go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will > > fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist
> > on leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > >disklavier-unsubscribe@ > > > > > >Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > >disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this link: > > >http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2013-08-14 by kenmortgages
I know this is several months down the track, but I had the same problem with my MkIIXG. Even high quality powered monitors don't cut it. I purchased the JEC TC780 via eBay and connected it to my Harman Kardon AVR. The result was quite stunning sound - I didn't think the XG tone generator could do such a good job. I've asked around hi-fi shops across the city (Sydney Aus) and no one had an answer over the years. Thanks gmtmt - and the Disklavier user group - for so many great solutions. Today's question - I want to upgrade to a DKC-850. In Australia they are imported from Japan by the local distributors for about AUD3,000 which is quite outrageous. Can anyone recommend a reputable US Yamaha dealer I can approach to purchase one? --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "gmtmt" <gmtmt@...> wrote:
> > I had the same problem with Sonos speakers system. The answer a stereo line level booster. I bought one at best buy JEC Model TC780LCIt works great. Plug the output from the DKC 850 into the box and take the output to the speakders. > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "discodonal" <discodonal@> wrote: > > > > I want to use my surround sound speakers via my Onkyo Av Receiever so I took the audio output from the DKC and sent it to an input on the Onkyo but the volume is so low I have to max out the Onkyo to hear it. The signal strength is very weak. Am I doing something wrong ? > > >
2013-08-14 by jthyder
Cordogans Pianoland, aka Chicago Pianos, sells the unit at US$1,600, including mounting brackets and access to their "vault" of 5,000 midi files. That price also includes free shipping within the US, but I don't know what they'd charge to ship to Oz, or if they ship internationally. I've spoken to their Disklavier guy, Rick, on the phone, and he seems knowledgeable and nice, but I haven't bought anything from them. Yet. http://www.chicagopianos.com/yamaha_disklavier.html I've been on the fence about the DKC-850 since first hearing about it a couple of years ago. I'm just not sure it's worth the price to me. I would have bought that one on eBay if I could have paid a couple hundred below list, but I was outbid. In the end it went for more than US list price, not including shipping, and without the brackets. One of these days, maybe. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "kenmortgages" <ken.batten@...> wrote: > Today's question - I want to upgrade to a DKC-850. In Australia they are imported from Japan by the local distributors for about AUD3,000 which is quite outrageous. Can anyone recommend a reputable US Yamaha dealer I can approach to purchase one? >
2013-08-14 by Donal Galvin
I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Aug 2013, at 21:38, jthyder <jhyder@...> wrote: > Cordogans Pianoland, aka Chicago Pianos, sells the unit at US$1,600, including mounting brackets and access to their "vault" of 5,000 midi files. That price also includes free shipping within the US, but I don't know what they'd charge to ship to Oz, or if they ship internationally. > > I've spoken to their Disklavier guy, Rick, on the phone, and he seems knowledgeable and nice, but I haven't bought anything from them. Yet. > > http://www.chicagopianos.com/yamaha_disklavier.html > > I've been on the fence about the DKC-850 since first hearing about it a couple of years ago. I'm just not sure it's worth the price to me. I would have bought that one on eBay if I could have paid a couple hundred below list, but I was outbid. In the end it went for more than US list price, not including shipping, and without the brackets. > > One of these days, maybe. > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "kenmortgages" <ken.batten@...> wrote: > > Today's question - I want to upgrade to a DKC-850. In Australia they are imported from Japan by the local distributors for about AUD3,000 which is quite outrageous. Can anyone recommend a reputable US Yamaha dealer I can approach to purchase one? > > > >
2013-08-15 by jthyder
Thanks for mentioning that, because one of my problems with the DC3A from the start was that I couldn't dial down the playback level low enough to easily have conversations in the same room. At piano show rooms, I've seen other brands of player system that allowed very soft playback, and I was annoyed that my Yamaha couldn't match them. Your note may make it easier for me to take the plunge, because my two top priorities are soft playback and wireless control via iPad/PC/Android. Which piano do you have? While I'm kvetching, the other thing I've hated about the DC3A since Day One (aside from the built-in speakers, which are just crap) was the sampled piano sound that you get in silent mode. I had a $700 Yamaha digital piano before getting the DK, and I loved its grand piano sound, so when I bought my $30,000 DC3A, I assumed I'd have the same great sound or better. Wrong. In most of the range it sounds fine, but in the two octaves above middle C, there's a range of notes that sound just like a Rhodes electric. Very jarring, very annoying. Yamaha reps I spoke to had no answer for why it sounded so bad. I tried other DC3As, and they sounded the same. I ended up buying an outboard Alesis synthesizer and using one of its sampled piano sounds when I wanted to play silently, rather than put up with the DC3A's sound. How does the sampled grand piano in the DKC-850 sound? Natural and full throughout the whole range? Are there many different piano sounds? What about other midi instruments? Thanks. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Donal Galvin <discodonal@...> wrote:
> > I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion >
2013-08-15 by Donal Galvin
I have a DGC1B that has the DKC 850. Much quieter at volume -10. You could upgrade the speakers to the ones they use in the Current E3 Disklavier which are much better than the ones that came with my piano. Can you not play your piano via the silent system through the speakers which will play ultra quiet for certain situations? http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/speakers/msp3/ Regards Donal
On 15 Aug 2013, at 17:42, jthyder <jhyder@...> wrote: > > Thanks for mentioning that, because one of my problems with the DC3A from the start was that I couldn't dial down the playback level low enough to easily have conversations in the same room. At piano show rooms, I've seen other brands of player system that allowed very soft playback, and I was annoyed that my Yamaha couldn't match them. Your note may make it easier for me to take the plunge, because my two top priorities are soft playback and wireless control via iPad/PC/Android. > > Which piano do you have? > > While I'm kvetching, the other thing I've hated about the DC3A since Day One (aside from the built-in speakers, which are just crap) was the sampled piano sound that you get in silent mode. I had a $700 Yamaha digital piano before getting the DK, and I loved its grand piano sound, so when I bought my $30,000 DC3A, I assumed I'd have the same great sound or better. > > Wrong. > > In most of the range it sounds fine, but in the two octaves above middle C, there's a range of notes that sound just like a Rhodes electric. Very jarring, very annoying. Yamaha reps I spoke to had no answer for why it sounded so bad. I tried other DC3As, and they sounded the same. I ended up buying an outboard Alesis synthesizer and using one of its sampled piano sounds when I wanted to play silently, rather than put up with the DC3A's sound. > > How does the sampled grand piano in the DKC-850 sound? Natural and full throughout the whole range? Are there many different piano sounds? What about other midi instruments? > > Thanks. > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Donal Galvin <discodonal@...> wrote: > > > > I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion > > > >
2013-08-15 by jthyder
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Donal Galvin <discodonal@...> wrote: > > > Can you not play your piano via the silent system through the speakers which will play ultra quiet for certain situations? > Oh, sure, I could do that, except for the fact that I don't like the silent piano sound, as I mentioned above. And if I'm going to listen through speakers, I'll just play a regular recording. I want the richness of the real piano, but softer.
2013-08-15 by Donal Galvin
I understand. The only drawback that I am aware is multi track recording but I am not after that so I am delighted with the DKC 850 which gives me Piano radio, iPad control and lower volume !! Regards Donal
On 15 Aug 2013, at 18:50, jthyder <jhyder@...> wrote: > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Donal Galvin <discodonal@...> wrote: > > > > > > Can you not play your piano via the silent system through the speakers which will play ultra quiet for certain situations? > > > > Oh, sure, I could do that, except for the fact that I don't like the silent piano sound, as I mentioned above. And if I'm going to listen through speakers, I'll just play a regular recording. I want the richness of the real piano, but softer. > >
2013-08-15 by Geoff Ward
I have a DC3 MkIV and use it to play midi files wirelessly from my Sony laptop. I frequently find that the midi files I have obtained play too loudly. There is a piece of software available from Spencer Chase that will enable you to lower all the note velocities of one or, importantly, a batch of files. There are a number of presets in the program to give a choice in how the file will be modified, eg, reduce all velocities to 70% of existing or reduce all to a fixed figure of, say, 60. You can also tailor your own velocity preset, eg increase velocities in the range from 10 to 40 to a linear ramp between 40 and 64, and decrease velocities in the range from 75 to 127 to a linear ramp between 75 and 90. You can contact Spencer on spencer@.... Regards _____
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jthyder Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 2:43 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers Thanks for mentioning that, because one of my problems with the DC3A from the start was that I couldn't dial down the playback level low enough to easily have conversations in the same room. At piano show rooms, I've seen other brands of player system that allowed very soft playback, and I was annoyed that my Yamaha couldn't match them. Your note may make it easier for me to take the plunge, because my two top priorities are soft playback and wireless control via iPad/PC/Android. Which piano do you have? While I'm kvetching, the other thing I've hated about the DC3A since Day One (aside from the built-in speakers, which are just crap) was the sampled piano sound that you get in silent mode. I had a $700 Yamaha digital piano before getting the DK, and I loved its grand piano sound, so when I bought my $30,000 DC3A, I assumed I'd have the same great sound or better. Wrong. In most of the range it sounds fine, but in the two octaves above middle C, there's a range of notes that sound just like a Rhodes electric. Very jarring, very annoying. Yamaha reps I spoke to had no answer for why it sounded so bad. I tried other DC3As, and they sounded the same. I ended up buying an outboard Alesis synthesizer and using one of its sampled piano sounds when I wanted to play silently, rather than put up with the DC3A's sound. How does the sampled grand piano in the DKC-850 sound? Natural and full throughout the whole range? Are there many different piano sounds? What about other midi instruments? Thanks. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , Donal Galvin <discodonal@...> wrote: > > I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion >
2013-08-15 by Sheldon H. Deluty, M.D.
I have a DC3 MkIV and use it to play midi files wirelessly from my Sony laptop. I frequently find that the midi files I have obtained play too loudly. There is a piece of software available from Spencer Chase that will enable you to lower all the note velocities of one or, importantly, a batch of files. There are a number of presets in the program to give a choice in how the file will be modified, eg, reduce all velocities to 70% of existing or reduce all to a fixed figure of, say, 60. You can also tailor your own velocity preset, eg increase velocities in the range from 10 to 40 to a linear ramp between 40 and 64, and decrease velocities in the range from 75 to 127 to a linear ramp between 75 and 90. You can contact Spencer on spencer@....
Regards
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jthyder
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 2:43 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers
Thanks for mentioning that, because one of my problems with the DC3A from the start was that I couldn't dial down the playback level low enough to easily have conversations in the same room. At piano show rooms, I've seen other brands of player system that allowed very soft playback, and I was annoyed that my Yamaha couldn't match them. Your note may make it easier for me to take the plunge, because my two top priorities are soft playback and wireless control via iPad/PC/Android.
Which piano do you have?
While I'm kvetching, the other thing I've hated about the DC3A since Day One (aside from the built-in speakers, which are just crap) was the sampled piano sound that you get in silent mode. I had a $700 Yamaha digital piano before getting the DK, and I loved its grand piano sound, so when I bought my $30,000 DC3A, I assumed I'd have the same great sound or better.
Wrong.
In most of the range it sounds fine, but in the two octaves above middle C, there's a range of notes that sound just like a Rhodes electric. Very jarring, very annoying. Yamaha reps I spoke to had no answer for why it sounded so bad. I tried other DC3As, and they sounded the same. I ended up buying an outboard Alesis synthesizer and using one of its sampled piano sounds when I wanted to play silently, rather than put up with the DC3A's sound.
How does the sampled grand piano in the DKC-850 sound? Natural and full throughout the whole range? Are there many different piano sounds? What about other midi instruments?
Thanks.
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Donal Galvin wrote:
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> I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion
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2013-08-16 by Geoff Ward
Extracts from my previous postings on this topic are reproduced below: "My PC is a Vaio notebook (or laptop). I connect to the DKV via the USB port, but not with a cable, but through my WIFI network using a wireless USB connection from IOGEAR. So, with a cable-free laptop I can get full control all I wish to do. When it comes to recording from the DKV, I also use the laptop and Cakewalk via the wireless USB." NOTE: to get my wifi network to the DKV I had to use 2 Netgear WIFI extenders daisy-chained - an extender applied to an already extended wifi network. (Netgear told me they couldn't be daisy-chained - they can, but data capacity is reduced by 50% each time - not an issue with midi as the 2nd extender can still deliver at least 20mbs). This set up works very reliably once sorted out. "An older DKV doesn't need wireless capability to connect wirelessly to a laptop. It just needs a MIDI IN port (USB) to connect an IOGEAR wireless USB sharing station to. If it has no USB connectivity, then it will also need a USB to MIDI interface. The type of USB midi interface is important. The cheap ones from China (the ones with the treble clef symbol not ones with a symbol that looks a bit like a bass clef), which I have found to work very well for connecting to a MIDI instrument via USB do not seem to work with the wireless device from IOGEAR. The IOGEAR device asks for the driver for the USB interface (ie, as a piece of software that can be read). The Chinese USB interfaces that I have used come with a driver built in which installs on the computer when first connected. You will need a device that comes with its driver on a disk. An older Roland USB MIDI interface that I have comes with drivers on a disk. However, I have not tried it with the IOGEAR device - be aware. Here is a link to the IOGEAR USB sharing station http://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204/." Regards Geoff _____
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon H. Deluty, M.D. Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 9:28 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers How do you do it wirelessly ? On 8/15/2013 6:51 PM, Geoff Ward wrote: I have a DC3 MkIV and use it to play midi files wirelessly from my Sony laptop. I frequently find that the midi files I have obtained play too loudly. There is a piece of software available from Spencer Chase that will enable you to lower all the note velocities of one or, importantly, a batch of files. There are a number of presets in the program to give a choice in how the file will be modified, eg, reduce all velocities to 70% of existing or reduce all to a fixed figure of, say, 60. You can also tailor your own velocity preset, eg increase velocities in the range from 10 to 40 to a linear ramp between 40 and 64, and decrease velocities in the range from 75 to 127 to a linear ramp between 75 and 90. You can contact Spencer on spencer@.... Regards _____ From: <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jthyder Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 2:43 AM To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Subject: [disklavier] Re: Connect DKC 850 to my Home Theatre Speakers Thanks for mentioning that, because one of my problems with the DC3A from the start was that I couldn't dial down the playback level low enough to easily have conversations in the same room. At piano show rooms, I've seen other brands of player system that allowed very soft playback, and I was annoyed that my Yamaha couldn't match them. Your note may make it easier for me to take the plunge, because my two top priorities are soft playback and wireless control via iPad/PC/Android. Which piano do you have? While I'm kvetching, the other thing I've hated about the DC3A since Day One (aside from the built-in speakers, which are just crap) was the sampled piano sound that you get in silent mode. I had a $700 Yamaha digital piano before getting the DK, and I loved its grand piano sound, so when I bought my $30,000 DC3A, I assumed I'd have the same great sound or better. Wrong. In most of the range it sounds fine, but in the two octaves above middle C, there's a range of notes that sound just like a Rhodes electric. Very jarring, very annoying. Yamaha reps I spoke to had no answer for why it sounded so bad. I tried other DC3As, and they sounded the same. I ended up buying an outboard Alesis synthesizer and using one of its sampled piano sounds when I wanted to play silently, rather than put up with the DC3A's sound. How does the sampled grand piano in the DKC-850 sound? Natural and full throughout the whole range? Are there many different piano sounds? What about other midi instruments? Thanks. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com> , Donal Galvin <mailto:discodonal@...> <discodonal@...> wrote: > > I have the DKC 850 and it plays much quieter than the Mark III which is worth the upgrade alone in my opinion >