Disklavier

The internet has brought about a huge movement in electonic "file 
sharing".  This has included both copyrighted and non-copyrighted 
material.  In the audio world, Napster proliferated the practice.  
When Napster closed up, it was replaced by a hundred other file 
sharing sites that share both copyrighted and non-copyrighted files.  
Where are the "Napster" sites of Disklavier files?

Sorry.  I just get erked at how Yamaha insults it's customers by 
pricing it's disks at $30 a pop.

The disks and packaging should cost less than .35 cents a piece to 
produce.  Personnaly, I feel the artist should get about $2 from each 
disk sold.  That comes to $2.35 each.  Since Yamaha needs to make a 
profit, they can mark the disks up 400% and sell them at $10 a 
piece.  The reseller can add $5.00, and wallah.....  you have $15 per 
disk.

Price fixing at $30 dollars each is insulting to the customer.


--- In disklavier@y..., "Todd Muncy" <disklavier@m...> wrote:
> Saierk,
> Your message below certainly got my attention and frankly concerns 
me greatly.  
> 
> I looked you up in the members log and see that you have been in 
this group for less than 24 hours.  If you are expressing 
disappointment that you can't find copyrighted performances here, I'm 
glad to hear it.  We are scrupulous in keeping such material off our 
site.  
> 
> If you don't like this policy, I suggest you discuss it...    ...in 
some other group or try this link:  disklavier-unsubscribe@y...  I'm 
not trying to be self-righteous or holier-than-thou, but I've spent 
two years defending this group against the slings and arrows of one 
or two misinformed jerks who claimed our main purpose was to 
circumvent copyrights and that we are a bunch of pirates.  As you've 
discovered, nothing could be further from the truth!  
> 
> We are a private, members-only group, that shares private 
performances internally, for our own enjoyment only and do not use 
them for commercial purpose.  Some of the compositions still carry 
copyright protection for their songwriters, but private non-
commercial performances are exempt from royalties under copyright 
law.  The wonderful thing about this group, is that you can find a 
lot of this material here which is forced off of public websites by 
the Harry Fox Agency (songwriters version of ASCAP/BMI).  If you're 
tired of classical and ragtime, this is the club to belong to.
> 
> If you would prefer a Napster, piracy focused, alternative, I don't 
have any recommendations.  If you find one or start one yourself, 
please don't tell me about it or post info about on this board, or 
you will find yourself a former member of this particular group.  
Hope this more than answers your question.
> 
> 
> Todd Muncy
> disklavier-owner@Y...
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: saierk 
>   To: disklavier@y... 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:54 AM
>   Subject: [disklavier] Napster of Disklavier ?
> 
> 
>   The internet has brought about a huge movement in electonic "file 
>   sharing".  This has included both copyrighted and non-copyrighted 
>   material.  In the audio world, Napster proliferated the 
practice.  
>   When Napster closed up, it was replaced by a hundred other file 
>   sharing sites that share both copyrighted and non-copyrighted 
files.  
>   Where are the "Napster" sites of Disklavier files?
> 
> 
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--- In disklavier@y..., "Todd Muncy" <disklavier@m...> wrote:

> I suggest you don't buy them.  I don't.  Not many of our 550+ 
members do.  They're not a great value, agreed, and I think the 
selection and quality sucks. 

Some of the best music I have for the Disklavier came from PG 
Music's "The Pianist" series. It's a low-cost collection of 500+ 
classical piano songs, played live by decent pianists. (Some of the 
selections are marginal, but most are good, and some are very good.) 
Unfortunately, for some strange reason, PG Music dropped this 
product!

The best quality Disklavier recordings I've heard have come from 
Wayne Stahnke's "Live Performance" company. These are exceptionally 
good.

I have about 30 Disks from Yamaha, and they're mostly crap. Some are 
unlistenable (like their "Beatles" disk.)

Why waste your time with Yamaha when you could be listening to great 
piano at www.perfessorbill.com  and www.garyw0001.com/frames.html

Happy listening.

Midi Magic



--- In disklavier@y..., "saierk" <saierk@y...> wrote:
> 
> Sorry.  I just get erked at how Yamaha insults it's customers by 
> pricing it's disks at $30 a pop.
> 
> The disks and packaging should cost less than .35 cents a piece to 
> produce.  Personnaly, I feel the artist should get about $2 from 
each 
> disk sold.  That comes to $2.35 each.  Since Yamaha needs to make a 
> profit, they can mark the disks up 400% and sell them at $10 a 
> piece.  The reseller can add $5.00, and wallah.....  you have $15 
per 
> disk.
> 
> Price fixing at $30 dollars each is insulting to the customer.
> 
> 
> --- In disklavier@y..., "Todd Muncy" <disklavier@m...> wrote:
> > Saierk,
> > Your message below certainly got my attention and frankly 
concerns 
> me greatly.  
> > 
> > I looked you up in the members log and see that you have been in 
> this group for less than 24 hours.  If you are expressing 
> disappointment that you can't find copyrighted performances here, 
I'm 
> glad to hear it.  We are scrupulous in keeping such material off 
our 
> site.  
> > 
> > If you don't like this policy, I suggest you discuss 
it...    ...in 
> some other group or try this link:  disklavier-unsubscribe@y...  
I'm 
> not trying to be self-righteous or holier-than-thou, but I've spent 
> two years defending this group against the slings and arrows of one 
> or two misinformed jerks who claimed our main purpose was to 
> circumvent copyrights and that we are a bunch of pirates.  As 
you've 
> discovered, nothing could be further from the truth!  
> > 
> > We are a private, members-only group, that shares private 
> performances internally, for our own enjoyment only and do not use 
> them for commercial purpose.  Some of the compositions still carry 
> copyright protection for their songwriters, but private non-
> commercial performances are exempt from royalties under copyright 
> law.  The wonderful thing about this group, is that you can find a 
> lot of this material here which is forced off of public websites by 
> the Harry Fox Agency (songwriters version of ASCAP/BMI).  If you're 
> tired of classical and ragtime, this is the club to belong to.
> > 
> > If you would prefer a Napster, piracy focused, alternative, I 
don't 
> have any recommendations.  If you find one or start one yourself, 
> please don't tell me about it or post info about on this board, or 
> you will find yourself a former member of this particular group.  
> Hope this more than answers your question.
> > 
> > 
> > Todd Muncy
> > disklavier-owner@Y...
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: saierk 
> >   To: disklavier@y... 
> >   Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:54 AM
> >   Subject: [disklavier] Napster of Disklavier ?
> > 
> > 
> >   The internet has brought about a huge movement in 
electonic "file 
> >   sharing".  This has included both copyrighted and non-
copyrighted 
> >   material.  In the audio world, Napster proliferated the 
> practice.  
> >   When Napster closed up, it was replaced by a hundred other file 
> >   sharing sites that share both copyrighted and non-copyrighted 
> files.  
> >   Where are the "Napster" sites of Disklavier files?
> > 
> > 
> >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 
> >               ADVERTISEMENT
> >              
> >        
> >        
> > 
> >   To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@Y...
> > 
> >   To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder 
and 
> moderator, send it to:
> >   disklavier-owner@Y...
> > 
> >   To reach our group's web site go to:
> >   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > 
> >   Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 
and 
> contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among 
> other things, The url is:
> >   http://MuncyFamily.com
> > 
> >   THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> >   If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too 
> much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery 
option 
> instead.  That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access 
to 
> the group.  If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank 
email 
> to:
> >   disklavier-unsubscribe@y...
> > 
> >   Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email 
to:

> >   disklavier-subscribe@e... or give them this link:
> >   http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> > 
> > 
> >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
> Service.