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2015-09-09 by PEOPLES, SAM
2015-09-10 by Dan O'Connor
eBay had one in August that did not sell. Contact seller Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:09 PM, "'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@....uk [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi guys. > I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano. > Cheers > > Sent from Windows Mail > >
2015-09-10 by George Frederick Litterst
On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:09 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.CheersSent from Windows Mail
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi there. Thanks very much, yeah I know it's a fairly old piece of gear but the DKC-850 is very expensive to buy brand new y'see. I know I'd be hanging 2 bits of gear off my piano but I can't afford a DKC-850 just now and I wanted to find someone who had either of these modules cause I don't mind that it's older, my own wagon is the first version to come out anyway so it's older than these lol. By the way if you would like to see me play check out my Youtube channel Samthebam4044. Thanks for suggesting the DKC, I already knew about it and had researched it but I can't find one for a decent price over here. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?14?:?34 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Good morning, everyone. I recommend that you go with the modern DKC-850 instead of the combined DSR1 and DCD1. Since the DSR1 and DCD1 are relatively ancient pieces of gear (and the DSR1 is floppy-based), you may find used pieces for much less than a DKC-850. But, you'll be buying old technology. Further more, you'll be adding 2 units to your piano instead of one integrated unit that includes a CD drive plus USB. Regards, PianoBench On Sep 9, 2015, at 6:09 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@...<mailto:SPEOPL200@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi guys. I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren't any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they're no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it's something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
2015-09-10 by Carol Beigel
I looked at the specs for the DKC-850, and it is compatible with Disklaviers as old as the Mark II. The Wagon Grand preceded the Mark II, and is not on the list as being compatible with the DKC-850. If you really want a CD player and a tone generator, it is probably best to pursue the older DCD1 and DSR1. Or, just gut the electronics and replace them with a PianoDisc or QRS Pianomation system. Then you could control you player wirelessly with an iPod and have internet access and internet radio. I think those systems installed probably cost around $6000. Yamaha does not make a retrofit system. Carol Beigel
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hiya. Yeah I've seen the PianoDisc system fitted instead of adding more modules on. However I can't afford one of these at that price. The DKC-850 isn't on Yamaha's list or whoever made the list but it is compatible via the MIDI out port, I've heard of it being done. I found a DKC-600CD with combined floppy and CD drive for $600 on Ebay and another DSR1 for $200. I'm in Scotland so I could ship these reasonably economically but yeah best thing would be just to buy a new one or replace the whole system with a retrofit but I can't afford either so yeah either I'll look for a DKC-850 or look at these other 2 on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-Disklavier-small-Controll-uit-DKC60RCD-/121752119013?hash=item1c58fde6e5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Disklavier-Control-Unit-DKC-500R-XG-/291560285828?hash=item43e258e684 Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?14?:?48 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> I looked at the specs for the DKC-850, and it is compatible with Disklaviers as old as the Mark II. The Wagon Grand preceded the Mark II, and is not on the list as being compatible with the DKC-850. If you really want a CD player and a tone generator, it is probably best to pursue the older DCD1 and DSR1. Or, just gut the electronics and replace them with a PianoDisc or QRS Pianomation system. Then you could control you player wirelessly with an iPod and have internet access and internet radio. I think those systems installed probably cost around $6000. Yamaha does not make a retrofit system. Carol Beigel
2015-09-10 by Carol Beigel
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. Carol Beigel www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi Carol That's a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I'll ask him. Mine's is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it's a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I'm interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?15?:?07 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. Carol Beigel www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by Bill Brandom
Sam, You cannot use a DKC60RCD or DKC500RCD with your wagon grand. These are not add-on units. They are control units for specific Disklavier systems. The only Yamaha options for Disklavier are DSR1, DCD1, and DKC-850. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:55 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hiya. Yeah I’ve seen the PianoDisc system fitted instead of adding more modules on. However I can’t afford one of these at that price. The DKC-850 isn’t on Yamaha’s list or whoever made the list but it is compatible via the MIDI out port, I’ve heard of it being done. I found a DKC-600CD with combined floppy and CD drive for $600 on Ebay and another DSR1 for $200. I’m in Scotland so I could ship these reasonably economically but yeah best thing would be just to buy a new one or replace the whole system with a retrofit but I can’t afford either so yeah either I’ll look for a DKC-850 or look at these other 2 on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-Disklavier-small-Controll-uit-DKC60RCD-/121752119013?hash=item1c58fde6e5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Disklavier-Control-Unit-DKC-500R-XG-/291560285828?hash=item43e258e684 Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:48 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com I looked at the specs for the DKC-850, and it is compatible with Disklaviers as old as the Mark II. The Wagon Grand preceded the Mark II, and is not on the list as being compatible with the DKC-850. If you really want a CD player and a tone generator, it is probably best to pursue the older DCD1 and DSR1. Or, just gut the electronics and replace them with a PianoDisc or QRS Pianomation system. Then you could control you player wirelessly with an iPod and have internet access and internet radio. I think those systems installed probably cost around $6000. Yamaha does not make a retrofit system. Carol Beigel
2015-09-10 by dano77vette@...
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hiya. I think you can although I don't know that exactly Bill can answer that better than me, I read somewhere that the DKC-850 could be connected to the wagon via the MIDI out port, I dunno if you need the DSR1 aswell I don't think you do. Like I say I don't know but it should work as the DKC-850 has a tone module and a MIDI in I think, why they don't state the wagon or the first uprights in the compatibility list I dunno maybe cause the electronics aren't compatible somewhere in the circuit Bill can you chime in here? Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?15?:?50 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Bill: Can you update a Wagon with a DKC-850 alone? I currently use a DSR1 on my wagon. Can i use a DKC-850 to replace the DSR1 should I need to in the future? thanks DanO77vette
2015-09-10 by Bill Brandom
Unofficially, yes you can. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:50 AM, dano77vette@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Bill: Can you update a Wagon with a DKC-850 alone? I currently use a DSR1 on my wagon. Can i use a DKC-850 to replace the DSR1 should I need to in the future? thanks DanO77vette
2015-09-10 by Bill Brandom
The issue is the floppy drive in the original control unit. If it doesn't function, then the DKC850 cannot be used with those earlier models. Bill Love God. Love People. Make a difference. On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hiya. I think you can although I don’t know that exactly Bill can answer that better than me, I read somewhere that the DKC-850 could be connected to the wagon via the MIDI out port, I dunno if you need the DSR1 aswell I don’t think you do. Like I say I don’t know but it should work as the DKC-850 has a tone module and a MIDI in I think, why they don’t state the wagon or the first uprights in the compatibility list I dunno maybe cause the electronics aren’t compatible somewhere in the circuit Bill can you chime in here? Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:50 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Bill: Can you update a Wagon with a DKC-850 alone? I currently use a DSR1 on my wagon. Can i use a DKC-850 to replace the DSR1 should I need to in the future? thanks DanO77vette
2015-09-10 by Sam Kanter
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Carol > That’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good. > Cheers > > Sent from Windows Mail > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07 > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. > > Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. > > The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. > > Carol Beigel > www.midiplayertools.com > > >
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can't download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it's more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don't have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?17?:?55 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com<http://www.keyboardcollective.com> (212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@...<mailto:SPEOPL200@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi Carol That's a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I'll ask him. Mine's is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it's a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I'm interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?15?:?07 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. Carol Beigel www.midiplayertools.com<http://www.midiplayertools.com>
2015-09-10 by Sam Kanter
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, ';PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@...m
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by Sam Kanter
Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by Sam Kanter
Yeah that’s fine if you’ve got a database on your computer, I’m thinking of the other situation where we don’t have one by the piano, in which case hard copy media is the best solution, it’d be nice to have a big instantly playable database of songs but at the price I was looking at that just isn’t very practical in a restaurant full of people and kids.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:18
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
When I first got my DKV the floppy drive was broken so I started using MIDI/computer instead. Then I jammed a floppy into the drive really hard, and that fixed it!
Since then, I found no use for floppies. I have a database of thousands of pieces on my computer that can be searched and played as playlists instantly.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, ';PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy.
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Yeah that’s fine if you’ve got a database on your computer, I’m thinking of the other situation where we don’t have one by the piano, in which case hard copy media is the best solution, it’d be nice to have a big instantly playable database of songs but at the price I was looking at that just isn’t very practical in a restaurant full of people and kids.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:18
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
When I first got my DKV the floppy drive was broken so I started using MIDI/computer instead. Then I jammed a floppy into the drive really hard, and that fixed it!
Since then, I found no use for floppies. I have a database of thousands of pieces on my computer that can be searched and played as playlists instantly.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy.
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45
To: ;disklavier@yahoogroups.com
In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy.
Sam
*(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.)
On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1.
Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved.
The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD.
Carol Beigel
www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-10 by James Fry
Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.Cheers
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2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi James Will do thanks buddy, obviously the main bit I want to get is the DSR1 cause that has the tone generator and stuff. A lot of folk have told me not to bother and just buy a MIDI cable and download via a laptop off the net but that's not always practical especially since you can't always get the song you want on download at a good deal when you can get loads of disks for peanuts. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?20?:?11 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Hi Sam, I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1. Regards, James On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@...<mailto:SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi guys. I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren't any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they're no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it's something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
2015-09-10 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi James. What did you use your DCD1 module with? Did you own a Disklavier too or a digital piano or something that needed a CD drive? How much roughly do you want for the module? Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?20?:?11 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Hi Sam, I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1. Regards, James On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@...<mailto:SPEOPL200@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi guys. I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren't any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they're no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it's something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail
2015-09-10 by <dannon41@...>
Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.Cheers
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2015-09-11 by James Fry
Hi James.What did you use your DCD1 module with? Did you own a Disklavier too or a digital piano or something that needed a CD drive? How much roughly do you want for the module?Cheers
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:11
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Hi Sam,
I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1.
Regards,
James
On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
2015-09-11 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi James.What did you use your DCD1 module with? Did you own a Disklavier too or a digital piano or something that needed a CD drive? How much roughly do you want for the module?Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:11
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Hi Sam,
I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1.
Regards,
James
On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.Cheers
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2015-09-11 by James Fry
Hi James.The DKC-850 is basically the E3 minus a few features and the better hammer and pedal sensors of the newer pianos you can’t upgrade what’s inside the piano to make it more accurate apart from ripping the whole guts out and installing something else or heck trying to find someone with a MK IV disklavier who’s selling the internals LOL which I don’t think anybody does and even then you’d have to figure out a way to get the new electronics into the piano and make everything compatible with each other. Some folk have told me to steer clear of the DCD1 as it has some known problems and isn’t that useful but I dunno I’d quite like to have a full set of gear just to make it complete. I’d love a DKC-850 too to bring it right up-to-date but as you say they’re mental money. I’ll ask my dad and get back to you shortly as there’s a guy in the States who apparently has a brand new in the box never been sold DSR1 with manuals, cables and everything. If this is a good price and the guys not joking then this could be a great deal cause all the others are missing bits here and there.Cheers
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2015 09:44
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Hi Sam,
I used it with my MPX1Z upright MarkIIXG disklavier, which has a DKC500RW with XG sounds (basically the 'this comes with your disklavier' version of the DSR1), and can handle pianosmart where the CD doesn't need pitch adjustments. Price wise I'm not looking to be greedy - it's sat on top of the piano but not plugged in at the moment unused, and I'd rather it went to a good home. At some point I may downgrade to the DKC850 (though as it costs almost as much as my piano is worth it might not be worth it...)
Kind Regards,
James
On 10 September 2015 at 20:56, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi James.What did you use your DCD1 module with? Did you own a Disklavier too or a digital piano or something that needed a CD drive? How much roughly do you want for the module?Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:11
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Hi Sam,
I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1.
Regards,
James
On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi guys.I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren’t any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they’re no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it’s something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano.Cheers
Sent from Windows Mail
2015-09-12 by Skanter123
It all depends on how you use your DKV. I use it as a silent piano for practice with Synthogy Ivory American Concert D virtual piano for late night practice -marvelous! I also have it play thousands of wonderful classical performances on my hard drive, especially the Yamaha concert performances. Sometimes will play multi-track jazz pieces using Sampletrack samples in the computer for non-piano sounds with live piano. I don't have much interest in Internet streaming or disklavier radio or TV. So the MIDI computer is best bet for me, and DKC-850 would have limited abilities on my Mark II model anyway. What do you want to do with your DKV? Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:37 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Don’t get me wrong I know exactly where your coming from floppies in this day and age are pretty quaint to be using but in my situation they’re handy, and anyway with the DSR1/DCD1 you still have the tone generator and CD playback or if I was able to find a DKC-850 affordably even better, then you’ve got USB/internet streaming so it’s not all about the floppy disks as you might think it’s more for the extra features my wagon’s floppy already works perfectly so I’ve already got that. > Cheers > > Sent from Windows Mail > > From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:30 > To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com > > > Yes, YMMV in your situation. good luck! > > Sam Kanter > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:22 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah that’s fine if you’ve got a database on your computer, I’m thinking of the other situation where we don’t have one by the piano, in which case hard copy media is the best solution, it’d be nice to have a big instantly playable database of songs but at the price I was looking at that just isn’t very practical in a restaurant full of people and kids. >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:18 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> When I first got my DKV the floppy drive was broken so I started using MIDI/computer instead. Then I jammed a floppy into the drive really hard, and that fixed it! >> Since then, I found no use for floppies. I have a database of thousands of pieces on my computer that can be searched and played as playlists instantly. >> >> Sam Kanter >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy. >>> >>> Sent from Windows Mail >>> >>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45 >>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> >>> In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV >>> >>> Sam Kanter >>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>> (212) 684-3304 >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that. >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Sent from Windows Mail >>>> >>>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55 >>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>> >>>> >>>> I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy. >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> www.keyboardcollective.com >>>> (212) 684-3304 >>>> >>>> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) >>>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Carol >>>> That’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good. >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Sent from Windows Mail >>>> >>>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07 >>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >>>> >>>> >>>> My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. >>>> >>>> Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. >>>> >>>> The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. >>>> >>>> Carol Beigel >>>> www.midiplayertools.com > > >
2015-09-20 by Charles Lau
Hi Sam,
I have a Mark IV and just like you I want to set it up in silent mode work with piano sound module on PC such as you have done with Synthogy.Any suggestions how to set this up?
So far I have midi-out cable going from Disklavier into a UR22 Audio interface box https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_serie/modelle/ur22.html
This UR22 unit then connects into PC Windows 7 computer via USB 2.0 connector.
After that I'm lost what to do next.
Any help would be appreciated.
ThanksCharles
On Friday, September 11, 2015 5:34 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It all depends on how you use your DKV.
I use it as a silent piano for practice with Synthogy Ivory American Concert D virtual piano for late night practice -marvelous! I also have it play thousands of wonderful classical performances on my hard drive, especially the Yamaha concert performances. Sometimes will play multi-track jazz pieces using Sampletrack samples in the computer for non-piano sounds with live piano.
I don't have much interest in Internet streaming or disklavier radio or TV. So the MIDI computer is best bet for me, and DKC-850 would have limited abilities on my Mark II model anyway.
What do you want to do with your DKV?
Sam www.keyboardcollective.com(212) 684-3304
On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:37 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Don’t get me wrong I know exactly where your coming from floppies in this day and age are pretty quaint to be using but in my situation they’re handy, and anyway with the DSR1/DCD1 you still have the tone generator and CD playback or if I was able to find a DKC-850 affordably even better, then you’ve got USB/internet streaming so it’s not all about the floppy disks as you might think it’s more for the extra features my wagon’s floppy already works perfectly so I’ve already got that.Cheers
Sent from Windows MailFrom: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:30 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Yes, YMMV in your situation. good luck! Sam Kanter www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:22 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Yeah that’s fine if you’ve got a database on your computer, I’m thinking of the other situation where we don’t have one by the piano, in which case hard copy media is the best solution, it’d be nice to have a big instantly playable database of songs but at the price I was looking at that just isn’t very practical in a restaurant full of people and kids. Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:18 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com When I first got my DKV the floppy drive was broken so I started using MIDI/computer instead. Then I jammed a floppy into the drive really hard, and that fixed it! Since then, I found no use for floppies. I have a database of thousands of pieces on my computer that can be searched and played as playlists instantly. Sam Kanter www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy. Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV Sam Kanter www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304 On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that.Cheers Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy. Samwww.keyboardcollective.com(212) 684-3304 *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi CarolThat’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good.Cheers Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. Carol Beigel www.midiplayertools.com
2015-09-21 by Skanter123
Hi Charles, I have a MIDI interface card in my PC, there is no USB and set it up around two years ago. I really don't remember specifics, but it would be a bit different then your settings anyway. The general principle is that the MIDI OUT of the DKV goes to the MIDI IN of the virtual piano on your PC. You will have to go to specific settings on your virtual piano. Other experts here will tell you the proper settings on your DKV, I think it's KEYBOARD MIDI OUT or something similar. Wish I could be more specific - good luck. Sam www.keyboardcollective.com (212) 684-3304
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Charles Lau charleslau@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Sam, > > I have a Mark IV and just like you I want to set it up in silent mode work with piano sound module on PC such as you have done with Synthogy. > Any suggestions how to set this up? > > So far I have midi-out cable going from Disklavier into a UR22 Audio interface box https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_serie/modelle/ur22.html > > This UR22 unit then connects into PC Windows 7 computer via USB 2.0 connector. > > After that I'm lost what to do next. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Charles > > > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 5:34 PM, "Skanter123 skanter123@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > It all depends on how you use your DKV. > > I use it as a silent piano for practice with Synthogy Ivory American Concert D virtual piano for late night practice -marvelous! I also have it play thousands of wonderful classical performances on my hard drive, especially the Yamaha concert performances. Sometimes will play multi-track jazz pieces using Sampletrack samples in the computer for non-piano sounds with live piano. > > I don't have much interest in Internet streaming or disklavier radio or TV. So the MIDI computer is best bet for me, and DKC-850 would have limited abilities on my Mark II model anyway. > > What do you want to do with your DKV? > > > > Sam > www.keyboardcollective.com > (212) 684-3304 > > > > > >> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:37 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Don’t get me wrong I know exactly where your coming from floppies in this day and age are pretty quaint to be using but in my situation they’re handy, and anyway with the DSR1/DCD1 you still have the tone generator and CD playback or if I was able to find a DKC-850 affordably even better, then you’ve got USB/internet streaming so it’s not all about the floppy disks as you might think it’s more for the extra features my wagon’s floppy already works perfectly so I’ve already got that. >> Cheers >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:30 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> Yes, YMMV in your situation. good luck! >> >> Sam Kanter >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:22 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah that’s fine if you’ve got a database on your computer, I’m thinking of the other situation where we don’t have one by the piano, in which case hard copy media is the best solution, it’d be nice to have a big instantly playable database of songs but at the price I was looking at that just isn’t very practical in a restaurant full of people and kids. >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:18 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> When I first got my DKV the floppy drive was broken so I started using MIDI/computer instead. Then I jammed a floppy into the drive really hard, and that fixed it! >> Since then, I found no use for floppies. I have a database of thousands of pieces on my computer that can be searched and played as playlists instantly. >> >> Sam Kanter >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah ok being a computer minded person I can see your point floppies are an obsolete format but I can still see uses for it, in my work for instance they’d be easier to handle, more robust against kids, more convenient than having to have a PC next to the piano, and less expensive if we got a pile of em with an older model, I’m just thinking of that situation, we can’t afford a new one so this would be a cost effective option for us. For me as in my own piano yeah it’s abit of an older way to do things but I would still like to obtain these modules for a complete system I am not gonna invest in a cheap pc next to the piano nor am I gonna drag the laptop downstairs all the time. Just saying that’s my opinion your entitled to yours. A DKC-850 would be brill as a substitute but they’re expensive to buy. >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:45 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> In my case, my desktop is adjacent to my DKV in my living room. If it werent I would dedicate a cheap laptop to the DKV. All floppys have been converted and copied (with a $10 external floppy drive) to my hard drive. IMO, using a floppy in 2015 is ridiculous. YMMV >> >> Sam Kanter >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Well my wagon hasa floppy, and it still works, what's wrong with getting hold of disks that are already made? Especially if you can’t download something or have to buy something online that would be cheaper in a bundle of disks, which is common on the like of Ebay? I know exactly what your on about it’s more efficient and easier but what about the times when you don’t have the computer, we are thinking of getting one for the work which is a good example of that. >> Cheers >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:55 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> I use my DKV with computer and MIDI and it works fine with many advantages. Do not use floppy. >> >> Sam >> www.keyboardcollective.com >> (212) 684-3304 >> >> *(Sent from phone - please excuse brevity and typos.) >> >> On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Carol >> That’s a good suggestion I have a laptop and I could just get a MIDI cable and do it that way. I have Bill on Facebook so I’ll ask him. Mine’s is a Japanese market model although I bought it here in Britain as it’s a PPG-10R wagon control unit and that model was only sold in Japan so Bill told me. I will ask him then. Your probably right though these modules are probably incompatible with the wagon or the piano hammer or sensor boards and yeah they are pretty old and obsolete bits of gear and these are expensive prices for the tech when you can be a cheap MIDI cable and do a lot of the same stuff. Reason I’m interested is because we may be getting a Disklavier for work or that's what I had in mind so if we got an older model this option could be good. >> Cheers >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:07 >> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> My suggestion is that you email Bill Brandom, privately, before you buy anything! People who get ripped off the most are those trying to things on the cheap. I seriously doubt this DKC-6000CD will work. Each Disklavier model has different electronics and operation systems. They are not compatible with each other. As far as I know, only the add-on modules may work; the DCD1 and DSR1. >> >> Bill Brandom is the ultimate guru of all things Disklavier and he is on this list. George Litterst is the ultimate guru of all things MIDI and wrote the manuals for the early model Disklaviers. I am only a Disklavier and piano technician who has dealt with many instruments in the field. The European models are different from the Disklaviers that were made for the North American market. Although the logic may be the same, the connectors are different. This is probably due to U.S. market being UL approved. >> >> The cheapest way for you to not get ripped off is to use a laptop computer connected to the MIDI ports of your Disklavier. There is free software available to make file conversions and use CD. >> >> Carol Beigel >> www.midiplayertools.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
2016-02-07 by PEOPLES, SAM
Hi James. I re-read your message saying you had a DCD1 module, what's you e-mail address or how can I get hold of you to talk about it since I think I've found a DSR1 and I'd be interested in buying your DCD1 too. Cheers Sam Sent from Windows Mail
From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?20?:?56 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Hi James. What did you use your DCD1 module with? Did you own a Disklavier too or a digital piano or something that needed a CD drive? How much roughly do you want for the module? Cheers Sent from Windows Mail From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?10? ?September? ?2015 ?20?:?11 To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> Hi Sam, I'm in the UK (Gloucestershire) and wish to sell my DCD1 as I simply don't use it. It has probably had less than 24 hours of playback time in total. Please feel free to message me off list if you are interested and able to find a DSR1. Regards, James On 9 September 2015 at 23:09, 'PEOPLES, SAM' SPEOPL200@...<mailto:SPEOPL200@caledonian.ac.uk> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com<mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi guys. I currently own a 1989 Yamaha G2B original wagon disklavier grand piano and am looking for Yamaha DSR1 and DCD1 modules to upgrade my unit with. It seems there aren't any for sale here in Scotland but if anybody has one they're no longer needing or wants to sell please get in touch as I am desperate to have either of these modules as it's something I want to get more into as I like playing the piano. Cheers Sent from Windows Mail