Disklavier

Hi,
Despite the fact that I'm a CVP user, I hope the you can help me.
 
I would like to make my own MIDI disks in the way YAMAHA did it.
On the YAMAHA disk, that comes with the CVP, you can see that the 
format (name of the MIDI file) is a little bit different 
from "normal" MIDI files.
If you use a "normal" MIDI file on a disk the CVP only shows the 
first 8 characters (like DOS).
But how is it possible to change that?

On the disk are two additional files. In one file you find the 
declaration for which CVP the disk is for. In the second file are 
the songs with there complete names are listed (with additional 
information's).

The disk contains 5 files:
01AMAZING.s718.MID
02GRANDEVALSE.s671.MID
03GREENSLEEVES.s473.MID
04WILD_ROSE.s687.MID
05MY_BONNIE.s460.MID

The disk is called Music Software Collection.

The disk is not copy protected !!!

The only problem I have is to understand the syntax in the file:

song_n.mng

SONG_N MNG 
MAX005 
FILE005 
FORMAT Ver1.00




01AMAZ~1MID 
Amazing Grace 
O.SMF 

A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
AAAAAAAAAR 


U, ,1, 
02GRAN~1MID 
Grande Valse Brillante Op.18 
O.SMF 

A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
AAA A R 


X, , 
03GREE~1MID 
Greensleeves 
O.SMF 

A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
AAAAAAAAA AA 


X, , 
04WILD~1MID 
To A Wild Rose 
O.SMF 

A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
AAAAA A AAA 


X, , 
05MY_B~1MID 
My Bonnie 
O.SMF 

A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
AAAAAAAAARAAAA A 


X, , 

and

disk.mng

DISK MNG 
CVP-201/203 
Ver1.00Rev0.00

 
My question are:
 
Can anybody tell me the syntax of the disk (files) ? 
What should I do to generate a disk like the YAMAHA disk ?
How can I add the song texts to show them during playing ?
Are the any internet pages were I can download complete disks 
with scores ?

Thanks in advance

Ronny

I don't have answers - just suggestions!  Since Yamaha uses proprietary 
software, I'm not sure you can exactly duplicate the format.  My suspicions 
are the proprietary stuff is where the pedaling and percussion tracks are 
assigned.

You can title a regular MIDI file using sequencer software that displays on 
the CVP.  I've seen titles on Yamaha's XG Works 3.0.

Perhaps one of those files is a song title manager with a maximum of 5 files 
allowed on the disk.

Giebler software at www.giebler.com may have a program for the Clavinova 
that might do exactly what you want.  It sure works for the Disklavier (YDM 
and DOMSMF).  You can title songs and convert MIDI files to the ESEQ, Yamaha 
proprietary format for DKVs.

Also,what does the owner's manual that came with your CVP say about making 
your own disks?

Carol Beigel
crbrpt@...


>From: "ronnyrig <ronnyrig@...>" <ronnyrig@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Disk file format
>Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 06:49:56 -0000
>
>Hi,
>Despite the fact that I'm a CVP user, I hope the you can help me.
>
>I would like to make my own MIDI disks in the way YAMAHA did it.
>On the YAMAHA disk, that comes with the CVP, you can see that the
>format (name of the MIDI file) is a little bit different
>from "normal" MIDI files.
>If you use a "normal" MIDI file on a disk the CVP only shows the
>first 8 characters (like DOS).
>But how is it possible to change that?
>
>On the disk are two additional files. In one file you find the
>declaration for which CVP the disk is for. In the second file are
>the songs with there complete names are listed (with additional
>information's).
>
>The disk contains 5 files:
>01AMAZING.s718.MID
>02GRANDEVALSE.s671.MID
>03GREENSLEEVES.s473.MID
>04WILD_ROSE.s687.MID
>05MY_BONNIE.s460.MID
>
>The disk is called Music Software Collection.
>
>The disk is not copy protected !!!
>
>The only problem I have is to understand the syntax in the file:
>
>song_n.mng
>
>SONG_N MNG
>MAX005
>FILE005
>FORMAT Ver1.00
>
>
>
>
>01AMAZ~1MID
>Amazing Grace
>O.SMF
>
>A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
>AAAAAAAAAR
>
>
>U, ,1,
>02GRAN~1MID
>Grande Valse Brillante Op.18
>O.SMF
>
>A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
>AAA A R
>
>
>X, ,
>03GREE~1MID
>Greensleeves
>O.SMF
>
>A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
>AAAAAAAAA AA
>
>
>X, ,
>04WILD~1MID
>To A Wild Rose
>O.SMF
>
>A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
>AAAAA A AAA
>
>
>X, ,
>05MY_B~1MID
>My Bonnie
>O.SMF
>
>A,E,P,M,SMF0,0
>AAAAAAAAARAAAA A
>
>
>X, ,
>
>and
>
>disk.mng
>
>DISK MNG
>CVP-201/203
>Ver1.00Rev0.00
>
>
>My question are:
>
>Can anybody tell me the syntax of the disk (files) ?
>What should I do to generate a disk like the YAMAHA disk ?
>How can I add the song texts to show them during playing ?
>Are the any internet pages were I can download complete disks
>with scores ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Ronny
>
>


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Good morning, everyone.

In a message dated 12/13/02 1:51:12 AM, Regarding the titling of song files 
for the CVP Clavinova Ronny asks:

<< Can anybody tell me the syntax of the disk (files) ? 
What should I do to generate a disk like the YAMAHA disk ?
How can I add the song texts to show them during playing ?
Are the any internet pages were I can download complete disks 
with scores ?>>

When displaying song names for Standard MIDI Files, most keyboards will 
display the DOS file name for the MIDI file or the so-called "sequence name 
meta event" that is embeded in the MIDI file. Most sequencers will let you 
enter the sequence name meta event, but they may not identify it as such. I 
suggest that you probe your sequencing software for some dialog box or window 
in which you can give a song name, sequence name, or chunk name.

In addition to what I have mentioned above, some keyboards prefer to read 
song names from a directory file that is stored on the disk--if such is 
present. If such is not present, the keyboard defaults to one of the 
conventions mentioned above. Such directory files are created automatically 
by certain keyboards when you record a song file directly to the disk. If you 
have a disk of existing SMFs, you can sometimes force the creation of a 
directory file by recording a one-note song, saving it, and then deleting it.

A directory file will store titles that you input from the control panel of 
the instrument itself. If you have forced the creation of a directory on a 
disk that has SMFs already on it, the directory may put in song titles 
automatically for the existing songs using DOS file names or sequence name 
meta events.

The file format to which Ronny refers is the CVP directory file. Ronny also 
posted this question on an email list for CVP users. When I first saw the 
question, I thought I would do a quick test of the facts as I know 
them--using a CVP 207--and then give a response. What I discovered in my 
test, however, is that the CVP 200 series seems to have completely changed 
the rules by which the CVP displays song names. In the absence of a directory 
file, it simply names the songs as 01, 02, 03 etc. Or, if there is a DOS name 
given to the disk itself, it lists the songs as disk name 01, disk name 02, 
etc.

I have made inquiries at Yamaha as to what is going on with the CVP file 
names. If I get any info, I'll pass it on. Meanwhile, I suggest that you try 
forcing the CVP to create a directory file for you and also try manually 
titling songs from the CVP control panel. Then, examine the resulting 
directory file on your computer.

Regards,
PianoBench