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Windows XP and Disklaviers

2002-12-24 by Carol Beigel

I just tried out a new Compaq Presario 900usb laptop runing Windows XP Home. 
  Nothing DOS-based (Giebler or dkvcopy) worked.  I used the Command Prompt 
to get into a DOS window.  If there is any other way to get to real DOS, 
please let me know as I did not see an option to restart the computer in 
MS-DOS mode. I tried formating a boot disk with DOS, on this laptop, but it 
would never let me into Drive C.  XP Home only had the option to format a 
high density disk.

The Giebler utilities did not see a Yamaha diskette, and would only format a 
disk if it had already been formatted in the DKV.  However it did see the 
files on a disk I had copied using the dkvcopy on another computer.

dkvcopy did not work.  It did not see a Yamaha diskette.  This laptop runing 
XP Home saw no disk that had nothing written on the first sector.

That's all the bad news.  My family tells me there is some good news.  
Adapters are made for serial to usb cables.  So you could get an adapter for 
the CBX cable if your laptop had no serial port.

Also, according to the Microsoft website, you can set up a computer with 
Windows XP with a dual boot to an older version of Windows.  I do not know 
if this will work on a laptop.

It seems some folks have been able to get Microsoft 2000, which is NT based, 
to work and some have not.  Has anyone had the Giebler or dkvcopy work on a 
laptop runing Windows 2000?  For the Dell laptop owners, I once saw one with 
a cable that connected the floppy drive out the back while the CD drive was 
in the bay.

I still think keeping an old copy of Windows 3.1/95/98 and an old laptop is 
still the least frustrating way to interface a computer with the DKV!


Carol Beigel
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RE: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers

2002-12-24 by Todd Muncy

Make up some bootable floppies from a win 98 machine and put a copy of
dkvcopy, format, and/or other DOS only programs on the floppy.  Pure DOS
can't read the NTFS file system that 2000 and XP default to.  You won't
be able to read the hard drive after booting, until you reboot XP.
Since you use these things infrequently, it is no big deal.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Beigel [mailto:carolrpt@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers

I just tried out a new Compaq Presario 900usb laptop runing Windows XP
Home. 
  Nothing DOS-based (Giebler or dkvcopy) worked.  I used the Command
Prompt 
to get into a DOS window.  If there is any other way to get to real DOS,

please let me know as I did not see an option to restart the computer in

MS-DOS mode. I tried formating a boot disk with DOS, on this laptop, but
it 
would never let me into Drive C.  XP Home only had the option to format
a 
high density disk.

The Giebler utilities did not see a Yamaha diskette, and would only
format a 
disk if it had already been formatted in the DKV.  However it did see
the 
files on a disk I had copied using the dkvcopy on another computer.

dkvcopy did not work.  It did not see a Yamaha diskette.  This laptop
runing 
XP Home saw no disk that had nothing written on the first sector.

That's all the bad news.  My family tells me there is some good news.  
Adapters are made for serial to usb cables.  So you could get an adapter
for 
the CBX cable if your laptop had no serial port.

Also, according to the Microsoft website, you can set up a computer with

Windows XP with a dual boot to an older version of Windows.  I do not
know 
if this will work on a laptop.

It seems some folks have been able to get Microsoft 2000, which is NT
based, 
to work and some have not.  Has anyone had the Giebler or dkvcopy work
on a 
laptop runing Windows 2000?  For the Dell laptop owners, I once saw one
with 
a cable that connected the floppy drive out the back while the CD drive
was 
in the bay.

I still think keeping an old copy of Windows 3.1/95/98 and an old laptop
is 
still the least frustrating way to interface a computer with the DKV!

Carol Beigel
crbrpt@...

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RE: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers

2002-12-24 by Carol Beigel

Thank you for your help.  However, mostly this did not work. I created a 
bootable system disk in Windows 98 and pput the dkvcopy and ydm programs on 
it. Only the program, AnaDisk worked (they say that one will copy anthing!). 
  DKVcopy did not.  Giebler did not. Neither of those two programs could see 
the disk I wanted to copy.  I kept getting a file creation error or a 
runtime error.

For today, this failure is probably the best as it makes it easier to wrap 
up the laptop runing XP Home and give to my Dad!  He wants to run GIS 
software; and to think he asked for a hedge trimmer!  If I thought this 
laptop would work on DKV utilities, it would be harder to give it away!!!

Carol Beigel
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>From: "Todd Muncy" <disklavier@...>
>Reply-To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers
>Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:09:34 -0500
>
>Make up some bootable floppies from a win 98 machine and put a copy of
>dkvcopy, format, and/or other DOS only programs on the floppy.  Pure DOS
>can't read the NTFS file system that 2000 and XP default to.  You won't
>be able to read the hard drive after booting, until you reboot XP.
>Since you use these things infrequently, it is no big deal.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carol Beigel [mailto:carolrpt@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:00 AM
>To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers
>
>
>
>I just tried out a new Compaq Presario 900usb laptop runing Windows XP
>Home.
>   Nothing DOS-based (Giebler or dkvcopy) worked.  I used the Command
>Prompt
>to get into a DOS window.  If there is any other way to get to real DOS,
>
>please let me know as I did not see an option to restart the computer in
>
>MS-DOS mode. I tried formating a boot disk with DOS, on this laptop, but
>it
>would never let me into Drive C.  XP Home only had the option to format
>a
>high density disk.
>


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Re: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers

2002-12-24 by Jimmy

Carol

Just an idea, but have you try starting in SAFE MODE, when the system boot I believe you press F8 or esc. It would prompt window to go in SAFE MODE , which I believe can give you access to Basic DOS, that is the way Norton Ghost need to start to make mirror copy.

Get back to me if you don't have any success, I will investigated at the begining of bnext year.

But I operate with Win 2000 and I have access to DOS prompt and I am able to get Giebler working and also DVK

Cheers

Jimmy

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----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Beigel

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:00 AM

Subject: [disklavier] Windows XP and Disklaviers

I just tried out a new Compaq Presario 900usb laptop runing Windows XP Home.
Nothing DOS-based (Giebler or dkvcopy) worked. I used the Command Prompt
to get into a DOS window. If there is any other way to get to real DOS,
please let me know as I did not see an option to restart the computer in
MS-DOS mode. I tried formating a boot disk with DOS, on this laptop, but it
would never let me into Drive C. XP Home only had the option to format a
high density disk.

The Giebler utilities did not see a Yamaha diskette, and would only format a
disk if it had already been formatted in the DKV. However it did see the
files on a disk I had copied using the dkvcopy on another computer.

dkvcopy did not work. It did not see a Yamaha diskette. This laptop runing
XP Home saw no disk that had nothing written on the first sector.

That's all the bad news. My family tells me there is some good news.
Adapters are made for serial to usb cables. So you could get an adapter for
the CBX cable if your laptop had no serial port.

Also, according to the Microsoft website, you can set up a computer with
Windows XP with a dual boot to an older version of Windows. I do not know
if this will work on a laptop.

It seems some folks have been able to get Microsoft 2000, which is NT based,
to work and some have not. Has anyone had the Giebler or dkvcopy work on a
laptop runing Windows 2000? For the Dell laptop owners, I once saw one with
a cable that connected the floppy drive out the back while the CD drive was
in the bay.

I still think keeping an old copy of Windows 3.1/95/98 and an old laptop is
still the least frustrating way to interface a computer with the DKV!

Carol Beigel
crbrpt@...

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To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@...

To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to:
disklavier-owner@...

To reach our group's web site go to:
http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier

Todd's family web site was completely rewritten in June 2001 and contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among other things, The url is:
http://MuncyFamily.com

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