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2003-11-21 by CapZ65

I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk to 
edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions as 
I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! One 
question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that appears 
on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the name, 
sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info is 
greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use Cakewalk 
to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a 
popular program. 
Many thanks

RE: [disklavier] LCD display

2003-11-21 by Todd Muncy

If the disk has been converted to e-seq Yamaha format, use eexplore and
right click on the song file.
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-----Original Message-----
From: CapZ65 [mailto:CapZ65@...] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:45 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] LCD display

I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk to 
edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions as 
I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! One 
question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that appears 
on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the name, 
sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info is 
greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use Cakewalk 
to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a 
popular program. 
Many thanks



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RE: [disklavier] LCD display

2003-11-22 by Sheldon Deluty

is there a foolproof labeling method for midi files to display properly on
an xg control unit

i find the display of the name is sometimes unpredictable

any help would be much appreciated

sheldon
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Todd Muncy [mailto:inbox1@...]
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:40 PM
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [disklavier] LCD display


  If the disk has been converted to e-seq Yamaha format, use eexplore and
  right click on the song file.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: CapZ65 [mailto:CapZ65@...]
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:45 PM
  To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [disklavier] LCD display

  I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk to
  edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions as
  I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! One
  question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that appears
  on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the name,
  sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info is
  greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use Cakewalk
  to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a
  popular program.
  Many thanks



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RE: [disklavier] LCD display

2003-11-22 by Todd Muncy

I'll never recall all the details, but a member of the group completely
explained this mystery two or three years ago in a posting, probably in
early 2000.  As memory serves, there are three places a song name can
reside on a disk of midis, one of which is the file name itself.  The
display considers all three in a set prioritized order and displays the
first one it finds. My best guess is:
1.       A directory file written by the disklavier.
2.       A name embedded inside the midi file
3.       The name of the file
 
 
Under no circumstance should you consider this as fact.  It is nothing
more than a very foggy recollection.  Anyone who wants to search the
thousands of postings made since the group was founded (not me), will
probably uncover the truth.  
 
Unfortunately, that's as much as I can remember, but it is consistent
with your comment about unpredictability.  Perhaps the member that
explained it the first time is still listening.   Hope this helps.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sheldon Deluty [mailto:mdshd@...] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:19 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [disklavier] LCD display
 
is there a foolproof labeling method for midi files to display properly
on an xg control unit
 
i find the display of the name is sometimes unpredictable
 
any help would be much appreciated
 
sheldon
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Muncy [mailto:inbox1@...]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:40 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [disklavier] LCD display
If the disk has been converted to e-seq Yamaha format, use eexplore and
right click on the song file.

-----Original Message-----
From: CapZ65 [mailto:CapZ65@...] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:45 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] LCD display

I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk to 
edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions as 
I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! One 
question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that appears 
on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the name, 
sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info is 
greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use Cakewalk 
to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a 
popular program. 
Many thanks



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some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other
things, The url is:
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Re: [disklavier] LCD display

2003-11-22 by PianoBench@aol.com

Good evening, everyone

In a message dated 11/21/03 8:21:39 PM, Sheldon writes:


> 
> is there a foolproof labeling method for midi files to display properly on 
> an xg control unit
> 
Yes.

>  i find the display of the name is sometimes unpredictable
> 
Indeed, it is predictable.

Below is a dissertation on the subject that I wrote some time ago.

Regards,
PianoBench
*****************
As best I can determine, the Disklavier display can get the file name for a
SMF song from any of these four places:

(1) a name stored in a directory that the Disklavier creates on the disk when
you make a recording to the disk,

(2) a Yamaha proprietary meta event added to the SMF by the Disklavier,

(3) the so-called "sequence" name which is imbedded in the MIDI file--usually
by a sequencing program,

and

(4) the DOS file name.

Which name does the Disklavier use for display?

Well, it seems as though the Disklavier defaults to reading the name in the
directory file if one is present.

The display name registered in the directory file is put there when the
directory file is initially created. This directory file is created when a
recording is made. Subsequently, whenever a new piece is recorded or an old
one rerecorded, the directory file is updated with respect to the file being
recorded or otherwise altered.

If a directory file is not present, the Disklavier reads the name embedded in
the Yamaha meta event. This meta event is created by the Disklavier and is
embedded in the file when you use the front panel of the Disklavier to add a
title to a SMF. Adding a title is, technically, a recording procedure which
also updates the directory on the disk or creates a new one if one is not
present.

Keep in mind that a proprietary meta event will normally not be read by
another other piece of hardware or software except one that is made by the
manufacturer which is identified as the creator of the meta event. Therefore,
Yamaha title meta events may be read by the Clavinova CVP, but will not be
read by another manufacturer's keyboard or by your sequencer.

If a Yamaha meta event title is not embedded in the file and a directory file
is not present which contains info about the file in question, the Disklavier
displays the sequence name. This name is added in a sequencer, such as
Cakewalk, Vision, Performer, Metro, etc. For example, with Cakewalk Pro Audio
7, you can go to the File menu and select Info.... This brings up a dialog
which lets you add a title. With Performer, you open the Chunks window and
create the sequence name there.

When you resave the SMF from a sequencer, the Yamaha meta event--if any--is
usually lost. The sequencer adds the "public" meta event for the sequence
title. If you do not specify a title in your sequencer, your sequencer may
automatically add the public meta event for the sequence title. This default
title usually shows up on the Disklavier display with the name "Untitled."

Although this sequence name is actually a "public" meta event--for lack of a
better word--, it is one which is universally recognized.

Finally, if a directory file is not present, a Yamaha title meta event is not
present, and a SMF sequence title meta event is not present, the Disklavier
will use the DOS file name for display. You can create this last situation by
taking a SMF, opening it in a sequencer like Cakewalk, setting the sequence 
name to
nothing, and resaving the SMF file to a disk which has no directory already 
on
it.

How should you add your titles? If you work with a sequencer a lot, your best
bet is to add the sequence title when you have the SMF open for editing.
Otherwise, adding titles using the Disklavier's front panel is fine. The
advantage to adding titles with your   sequencer is that the title stays 
"glued" to
the file, regardless of whether the file is opened in a sequencer by someone
else or put on a disk to which the Disklavier later adds a directory file.

Keep in mind that the display name can be up to 32 characters long as far as
the Disklavier's display is concerned. The first 16 characters (including
spaces) go on the top line, the rest on the bottom line.

Re: [disklavier] LCD display

2003-11-22 by Carol Beigel

There should be instructions in the Owners Manual that came with your DKV
for labeling files.  I find that the gnmidi program has a very consistent
labeling of a MIDI file.  You also asked about about a MIDI player.  The Van
Basco Karaoke Player (dkutil) is freeware.

Carol Beigel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheldon Deluty" <mdshd@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:18 PM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] LCD display


> is there a foolproof labeling method for midi files to display properly on
> an xg control unit
>
> i find the display of the name is sometimes unpredictable
>
> any help would be much appreciated
>
> sheldon
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Todd Muncy [mailto:inbox1@...]
>   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:40 PM
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [disklavier] LCD display
>
>
>   If the disk has been converted to e-seq Yamaha format, use eexplore and
>   right click on the song file.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: CapZ65 [mailto:CapZ65@...]
>   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:45 PM
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [disklavier] LCD display
>
>   I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk to
>   edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions as
>   I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! One
>   question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that appears
>   on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the name,
>   sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info is
>   greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use Cakewalk
>   to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a
>   popular program.
>   Many thanks
>
>
>
>   To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...
>
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>
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>
>   Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It contains
>   some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other
>   things, The url is:
>   http://MuncyFamily.com
>
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>   Todd's family web site was completely updated 01/15/03.  It contains
some
> fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things,
The
> url is:
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>
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Re: LCD display

2003-11-24 by Jorge Fernandez Moreno

If you want to label the file from inside Cakewalk so that the name 
of the song apears in the DKV LCD just do the following:
Click File in the menu
Click Info option
In the dialog window type only in the name field.

Since the DKV has a fixed number of chars per 2 lines (don not 
remember how many but count them) you have to add aditional spaces 
to have a nice first and second line.

I do not know how to use the other fields in the DKV but the name of 
the song is enought for me.
If you need more info in the file then follow the advise to record 
ESEQ file directly in the DKV and document it following the 
instructions in the user manual.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "CapZ65" <CapZ65@c...> wrote:
> I'm just beginning to learn how to work with midis. I use Cakewalk 
to 
> edit and the dkvutils to convert to Yamaha. I have many questions 
as 
> I am just starting out. I took my first piano lesson last week! 
One 
> question I have; how do I edit the song title and author that 
appears 
> on the LCD display when a midi plays? Sometimes it displays the 
name, 
> sometimes a .mid filename but mostly it reads "untitled". Any info 
is 
> greatly appreciated. Also, any other tips on how best to use 
Cakewalk 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> to convert midis would help many on this board. It seems to be a 
> popular program. 
> Many thanks

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