Disklavier

I am considering trading my DC3A disklavier for a DC3M4t disklavier.  I 
have not yet been able to see or play a DC3M4t and so I have two 
concerns that can be answered by anyone who owns a Mark IV disklavier.

 (1) The Mark III disklaviers like my DC3A have two 60 watt speakers 
mounted under the piano firing straight downward. .  The DC3M4t has two 
20 watt speakers mounted at an angle so as to deflect ensemble sounds 
outward from the piano  There is a significant difference in the power 
rating of the speakers (60 watt vs. 20 watt) between the Mark III and 
Mark IV disklaviers.  Can you tell me if you are able to get the Mark IV 
disklaviers to play ensemble sounds sufficiently loudly to balance the 
volume of the ensemble sounds against the acoustic piano? 

(2) I understand that the input/output center of the Mark IV disklavier 
includes at least one USB port.  However, from Yamaha's specifications 
for the Mark IV I cannot tell if this is a USB 2.0 or USB 1.0 (much 
slower speed) port.  Can someone who owns a Mark IV tell me if the USB 
port is 2.0. On their web site, Yamaha states that "Certain USB storage 
devices may not function properly with the Disklavier Mark IV series.  
For a list of compatible products, please visit 
www.yamaha.com/disklavier."  However, I cannot find any such list of USB 
compatible storage devices.  Has any owner of a Mark IV disklavier 
attempted to attach an external USB drive to the Mark IV's I/O center?  
Did it work properly?

Thanks in advance to any Mark IV owner who can respond to these questions. 

Tom

My Mk IV sounds good to me with ensemble and CDs. I
never had a Mk III so I can't compare.  There are a
couple of USB 2 ports and I regularly use one for a
thumb drive.  It works well and is vastly superior to
floppies.  

On the downside I am a little disappointed by some
clunkiness of the interface, the aggravating tendency
for entered song titles to revert or disappear and the
relatively poor range of the wireless network it uses.
 On the other hand I suppose that if it was more
powerful it could compete with the wireless network in
my house.

In all it is a great instrument.

BTW there is certainly no amplifier hum.
--- Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...> wrote:

> I am considering trading my DC3A disklavier for a
> DC3M4t disklavier.  I 
> have not yet been able to see or play a DC3M4t and
> so I have two 
> concerns that can be answered by anyone who owns a
> Mark IV disklavier.
> 
>  (1) The Mark III disklaviers like my DC3A have two
> 60 watt speakers 
> mounted under the piano firing straight downward. . 
> The DC3M4t has two 
> 20 watt speakers mounted at an angle so as to
> deflect ensemble sounds 
> outward from the piano  There is a significant
> difference in the power 
> rating of the speakers (60 watt vs. 20 watt) between
> the Mark III and 
> Mark IV disklaviers.  Can you tell me if you are
> able to get the Mark IV 
> disklaviers to play ensemble sounds sufficiently
> loudly to balance the 
> volume of the ensemble sounds against the acoustic
> piano? 
> 
> (2) I understand that the input/output center of the
> Mark IV disklavier 
> includes at least one USB port.  However, from
> Yamaha's specifications 
> for the Mark IV I cannot tell if this is a USB 2.0
> or USB 1.0 (much 
> slower speed) port.  Can someone who owns a Mark IV
> tell me if the USB 
> port is 2.0. On their web site, Yamaha states that
> "Certain USB storage 
> devices may not function properly with the
> Disklavier Mark IV series.  
> For a list of compatible products, please visit 
> www.yamaha.com/disklavier."  However, I cannot find
> any such list of USB 
> compatible storage devices.  Has any owner of a Mark
> IV disklavier 
> attempted to attach an external USB drive to the
> Mark IV's I/O center?  
> Did it work properly?
> 
> Thanks in advance to any Mark IV owner who can
> respond to these questions. 
> 
> Tom
> 



		
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Garry,

Thank you very much for kindly responding and answering my questions.  
My Yamaha disklavier dealer called me this afternoon to tell me that he 
had a DC3M4t which arrived yesterday set up and ready for me to look 
at.  I will be getting a chance to see and play it tomorrow afternoon.

I suspect that if you are pleased with the balance between the ensemble 
(tone generated) sound volume and the volume of the acoustic piano, then 
I will be to.  Perhaps the efficiency of the speakers in the Mark IV 
disklaviers is greater than in the Mark III models.  Thanks for letting 
me know that the USB on the Mark IV is USB 2.0 since I wanted to be able 
to use an external USB 2.0 HD for additional storage should the need 
arise.  It's also nice to hear that there is no amplifier hum although I 
do not have that problem on my present DC3A either.

I suspect that Yamaha rushed the software controlling the wireless to 
get the piano to market by Christmas.  I feel confident that Yamaha will 
address quickly problems that may exist in the software via user 
installed firmware/software upgrades as they have done in the past.


Thank you again.


Tom

Garry Neil wrote:

>My Mk IV sounds good to me with ensemble and CDs. I
>never had a Mk III so I can't compare.  There are a
>couple of USB 2 ports and I regularly use one for a
>thumb drive.  It works well and is vastly superior to
>floppies.  
>
>On the downside I am a little disappointed by some
>clunkiness of the interface, the aggravating tendency
>for entered song titles to revert or disappear and the
>relatively poor range of the wireless network it uses.
> On the other hand I suppose that if it was more
>powerful it could compete with the wireless network in
>my house.
>
>In all it is a great instrument.
>
>BTW there is certainly no amplifier hum.
>  
>
>  
>

I recently purchased a piano with a pianomation system.  I would like to be
able to play midi files that I can download online.  What do I need to do to
either create discs that I can play in the unit or alternatively, to hook up
the usb output from a laptop to the midi-input on the pianomation unit? 

Thanks for the help... 

Art

You're more than welcome Tom.  I am also expecting
some software upgrades - or even upgrades to the palm
top computer that is the interface controller.  In all
it appears to be a vastly improved system vs. the Mk
III.  The volume control of the acoustic piano vs. the
Mk III is also much improved.

Bottom line: I'm really pleased with the purchase and
I suspect you will be too.

Garry
--- Tom Wheeler <tnwheeler@...> wrote:

> Garry,
> 
> Thank you very much for kindly responding and
> answering my questions.  
> My Yamaha disklavier dealer called me this afternoon
> to tell me that he 
> had a DC3M4t which arrived yesterday set up and
> ready for me to look 
> at.  I will be getting a chance to see and play it
> tomorrow afternoon.
> 
> I suspect that if you are pleased with the balance
> between the ensemble 
> (tone generated) sound volume and the volume of the
> acoustic piano, then 
> I will be to.  Perhaps the efficiency of the
> speakers in the Mark IV 
> disklaviers is greater than in the Mark III models. 
> Thanks for letting 
> me know that the USB on the Mark IV is USB 2.0 since
> I wanted to be able 
> to use an external USB 2.0 HD for additional storage
> should the need 
> arise.  It's also nice to hear that there is no
> amplifier hum although I 
> do not have that problem on my present DC3A either.
> 
> I suspect that Yamaha rushed the software
> controlling the wireless to 
> get the piano to market by Christmas.  I feel
> confident that Yamaha will 
> address quickly problems that may exist in the
> software via user 
> installed firmware/software upgrades as they have
> done in the past.
> 
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> Garry Neil wrote:
> 
> >My Mk IV sounds good to me with ensemble and CDs. I
> >never had a Mk III so I can't compare.  There are a
> >couple of USB 2 ports and I regularly use one for a
> >thumb drive.  It works well and is vastly superior
> to
> >floppies.  
> >
> >On the downside I am a little disappointed by some
> >clunkiness of the interface, the aggravating
> tendency
> >for entered song titles to revert or disappear and
> the
> >relatively poor range of the wireless network it
> uses.
> > On the other hand I suppose that if it was more
> >powerful it could compete with the wireless network
> in
> >my house.
> >
> >In all it is a great instrument.
> >
> >BTW there is certainly no amplifier hum.
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> 



		
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Art

I have been successful in using an Eridol (by Roland) USB to MIDI 
interface with a Compaq laptop.  About $40.  I'm using it with a DKV 
but should work with any MIDI input device.  There is some question 
about which USB types it works with.

Bob Davis

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Art Goldberg" <artgold@p...> 
wrote:
> I recently purchased a piano with a pianomation system.  I would 
like to be
> able to play midi files that I can download online.  What do I 
need to do to
> either create discs that I can play in the unit or alternatively, 
to hook up
> the usb output from a laptop to the midi-input on the pianomation 
unit? 

> 
> Thanks for the help... 
> 
> Art

Thanks for the advice

 

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Art Goldberg

-----Original Message-----
From: bnbwv [mailto:davis2002@...] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:49 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: I could use a little advice

 


Art

I have been successful in using an Eridol (by Roland) USB to MIDI 
interface with a Compaq laptop.  About $40.  I'm using it with a DKV 
but should work with any MIDI input device.  There is some question 
about which USB types it works with.

Bob Davis

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Art Goldberg" <artgold@p...> 
wrote:
> I recently purchased a piano with a pianomation system.  I would 
like to be
> able to play midi files that I can download online.  What do I 
need to do to
> either create discs that I can play in the unit or alternatively, 
to hook up
> the usb output from a laptop to the midi-input on the pianomation 
unit? 
> 
> Thanks for the help... 
> 
> Art





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From: Clint Burns [mailto:c_burns@...] 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:11 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] I could use a little advice

 

Art,

 

Try this for converting MIDI to work on your pianomation.  I seems to work
fine for me on my Disklavier.

 

http://dp70.dyndns.org/mid2pianocd/

 

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Art Goldberg <mailto:artgold@...>  

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 1:22 PM

Subject: [disklavier] I could use a little advice

 

I recently purchased a piano with a pianomation system.  I would like to be
able to play midi files that I can download online.  What do I need to do to
either create discs that I can play in the unit or alternatively, to hook up
the usb output from a laptop to the midi-input on the pianomation unit? 

Thanks for the help... 

Art



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