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2004-12-06 by Michael Sullivan
2004-12-06 by Gorman, Ken (PA62)
Michael, Here's a link to a web-site that compares the various player pianos on the market today - Yamaha Disklavier, Pianodisc, ConcertMaster, and Pianomation. http://www.pacifier.com/~larryf/compare.html <http://www.pacifier.com/~larryf/compare.html> I'm sure after going through the site above, you'll have a lot more questions. The folks here are happy to answer your questions. A few years back, I was in your situation. I was considering a player piano and researched the various options available, including retro-fitting my existing grand piano with a player system. After a lot of research, I decided a Yamaha Disklavier was the best choice for me. Keep the questions coming. Regards, Ken
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:msull@...] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:36 AM To: disklavier@... Subject: [disklavier] Basic guidance Can anyone direct me to a source of basic infromation needed in purchasing a baby grand with player, for someone who knows nothing about them? I'm not sure I even know the meaningful differences between Disklavier and anything else, or whether the newer technology will matter to someone who wants to have a piano that plays itself & allows the kids to take lessons & me to fool around. Thanks. Michael A. Sullivan To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send it to: disklavier-owner@... To reach our group's web site go to: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier <http://yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier> Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: http://MuncyFamily.com <http://muncyfamily.com/> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@... Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join <http://yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129iq5nne/M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=gr plch/S=1705032012:HM/EXP=1102433748/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5639630.6699735.3001176/D=grplch/S= :HM/A=2434971/rand=864520867> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
2004-12-06 by Dave Budde
I also went through this process about 4 years ago. I had a Steinway M that I considered retrofitting with a Pianodisc. I opted instead to trade that for a Yamaha DC5-pro. This was the right choice at the time for what I wanted. But after some time, I also wanted to be able to do some computer based recording and mix with other instruments. I found the Yamaha (and this would be true of other acoustic Midi based instruments) to not integrate well with this environment because of the 500ms latency issue. I also didn't like the physical setup of trying to accommodate a computer with the Grand Piano and be comfortable at whatever I was doing. So I ended up adding a Kurzweil PC2X for the computer work. In retrospect, I should have kept the Steinway (unaltered), and bought the Kurzweil. I rarely use the Disklavier for playback of files. Not that I don't enjoy the Yamaha for the sheer joy of playing it as an acoustic Grand, it is a great instrument for that. But it would have been way cheaper to go the other route and still satisfy my needs. So, understand what it is you want to do and look at electronic keyboard alternatives before jumping in. Regards, Dave
On Dec 6, 2004, at 8:34 AM, Gorman, Ken (PA62) wrote: > Michael, > > Here's a link to a web-site that compares the various player pianos on > the market today - Yamaha Disklavier, Pianodisc, ConcertMaster, and > Pianomation. > > http://www.pacifier.com/~larryf/compare.html > > I'm sure after going through the site above, you'll have a lot more > questions. The folks here are happy to answer your questions. A few > years back, I was in your situation. I was considering a player piano > and researched the various options available, including retro-fitting > my existing grand piano with a player system. After a lot of > research, I decided a Yamaha Disklavier was the best choice for me. > > Keep the questions coming. > > Regards, > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:msull@...] > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:36 AM > To: disklavier@... > Subject: [disklavier] Basic guidance > > Can anyone direct me to a source of basic infromation needed in > purchasing a baby grand with player, for someone who knows nothing > about them? I'm not sure I even know the meaningful differences > between Disklavier and anything else, or whether the newer technology > will matter to someone who wants to have a piano that plays itself & > allows the kids to take lessons & me to fool around. Thanks. > > Michael A. Sullivan > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains > some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other > things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option > instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to > the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email > to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains > some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other > things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery option > instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to > the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank email > to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahooGroups.com > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <111704_1104_g_300250a.gif> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > • To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ > > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > >
2004-12-06 by Keith Barrett
On 6 Dec 2004 at 9:34, Gorman, Ken (PA62) wrote: > > Michael, > > Here's a link to a web-site that compares the various player pianos on the market today - Yamaha > Disklavier, Pianodisc, ConcertMaster, and Pianomation. > > http://www.pacifier.com/~larryf/compare.html > That was a really interesting read but I note that there is nothing after 1998 so, I presume that things have moved on a bit in all of the systems. I am also trying to make choices as to what system I am going to purchase. > I'm sure after going through the site above, you'll have a lot more questions. The folks here are > happy to answer your questions. A few years back, I was in your situation. I was considering a > player piano and researched the various options available, including retro-fitting my existing grand > piano with a player system. After a lot of research, I decided a Yamaha Disklavier was the best > choice for me. > > Keep the questions coming. > > Regards, > > Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:msull@...] > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:36 AM > To: disklavier@... > Subject: [disklavier] Basic guidance > > Can anyone direct me to a source of basic infromation needed in purchasing a baby grand with > player, for someone who knows nothing about them? I'm not sure I even know the meaningful > differences between Disklavier and anything else, or whether the newer technology will matter to > someone who wants to have a piano that plays itself & allows the kids to take lessons & me to fool > around. Thanks. > > Michael A. Sullivan > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send > it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun > disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go > the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix > the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on > leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send > it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun > disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go > the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix > the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on > leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Keith - - Keith Barrett gw4nby Bridgend South Wales
2004-12-06 by Keith Barrett
On 6 Dec 2004 at 10:35, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > Can anyone direct me to a source of basic infromation needed in purchasing a baby grand with > player, for someone who knows nothing about them? I'm not sure I even know the meaningful > differences between Disklavier and anything else, or whether the newer technology will matter to > someone who wants to have a piano that plays itself & allows the kids to take lessons & me to fool > around. Thanks. Hi Please forward any messages you receive off list. I am in the same position as you and am baffelled by the technology. Like you, all I want is a piano that can play and record. Thanks and good luck with the research. > > Michael A. Sullivan > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and moderator, send > it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains some fun > disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, The url is: > http://MuncyFamily.com > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail, go > the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That will fix > the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist on > leaving us completely send a blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Keith - - Keith Barrett gw4nby Bridgend South Wales
2004-12-07 by jnugent64
I went through a similar scenario of evaluating the baby Grand with Player. I selected the Yamaha Disklavier for the following reasons: Yamaha Disklavier is factory built and installed. Could not be added after purchasing the baby grand. Other Players are very good (or better) and up to date in technology as the Yamaha Disklavier. The only difference is that these Players are installed by local dealers or technicians. Few are being sent to the Players mananufacture for installation. As we all know, the piano action and components are very complex and sensitive. All aftermarket Players installation must touch these components. Therefore, these Players must be installed PROPERLY or the sensitive parts may not work correctly. I have heard stories about a bad Player installation could ruin your grand. The bottom line is that if you could find a dealer or technician LOCALLY who could do a proper installation of these Players, you are in good shape. Always ask for lots of references. In my case, the references weren't good enough to take a chance. Also, I used the Piano Book by Larry Fine to do initial research on all pianos. Again this book is only for reference. You need to do your own research in your local area. Hope this help. --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Barrett" <keith@b...> wrote: > On 6 Dec 2004 at 10:35, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > > > > Can anyone direct me to a source of basic infromation needed in purchasing a baby grand with > > player, for someone who knows nothing about them? I'm not sure I > even know the meaningful > > differences between Disklavier and anything else, or whether the > newer technology will matter to > > someone who wants to have a piano that plays itself & allows the kids > to take lessons & me to fool > > around. Thanks. > Hi > > Please forward any messages you receive off list. I am in the same > position as you and am baffelled by the technology. > > Like you, all I want is a piano that can play and record. > > Thanks and good luck with the research. > > > > > > Michael A. Sullivan > > > > > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@Y... > > > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send > > it to: > > disklavier-owner@Y... > > > > To reach our group's web site go to: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > > > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03. It contains > some fun > > disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things, > The url is: > > http://MuncyFamily.com > > > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much > mail, go > > the the web site and change your email delivery option instead. That > will fix > > the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. If you insist
> on > > leaving us completely send a blank email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > > disklavier-subscribe@e... or give them this link: > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > click here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disklavier/ > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > disklavier-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > Keith > > - - > > Keith Barrett > > > gw4nby > > Bridgend > South Wales