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Transition to Google Groups

Transition to Google Groups

2007-06-20 by Carl Youngblood

It seems like everyone is ignoring our request to transition from
Yahoo Groups to Google Groups.  In case you weren't aware, the Google
Group can be found here:

http://groups.google.com/group/disklavier

Please sign up if you haven't already.  In general, it's much more
user-friendly, in my opinion, than Yahoo.

Todd, can you think of other ways we can encourage this transition?

Thanks,
Carl

Re: [disklavier] Transition to Google Groups

2007-06-20 by Danny

From: "Carl Youngblood" <carl@...>

> It seems like everyone is ignoring our request to transition from
> Yahoo Groups to Google Groups.  In case you weren't aware, the Google
> Group can be found here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/disklavier
>
> Please sign up if you haven't already.  In general, it's much more
> user-friendly, in my opinion, than Yahoo.
>
> Todd, can you think of other ways we can encourage this transition?

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Hi Carl,

If I remember, you were the person who was pushing for this new Google Group to 
be formed. It was also mentioned a while back that the Yahoo group would remain.

There is also DUG, the YahooGroups Disklavier group, there was the old 
dug@... group, the old disklavier@egroups.com, etc. It is getting a 
bit confusing with all of the newer groups being started over the years.

Personally, I have not seen much of a difference between the Yahoo and Google 
groups regarding the day-to-day emails I receive from both of them. There also 
has been the recent contraversy regarding Google and the collection of some 
personal data regarding folks' surfing...

What is the main advantage to the new Google Group over what we already have?


Thanks,

Danny

Re: Transition to Google Groups

2007-06-20 by nealpolan

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Youngblood" <carl@...> wrote:
>I agree. I thought we were switching to Google as well. It seems we 
are using Yahoo more then Google. Very confusing.
Neal
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> It seems like everyone is ignoring our request to transition from
> Yahoo Groups to Google Groups.  In case you weren't aware, the Google
> Group can be found here:
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/disklavier
> 
> Please sign up if you haven't already.  In general, it's much more
> user-friendly, in my opinion, than Yahoo.
> 
> Todd, can you think of other ways we can encourage this transition?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Transition to Google Groups

2007-06-21 by Todd Muncy

All members of the Yahoo group were given membership in the Google group many weeks ago, but the default is no email so most may still be unaware. Then again, "no email" is the most common option on the Yahoo group. Despite my appeals for someone to help me out by transferring the file vault contents over, no one has stepped up, making the Google group much less attractive.
I am extremely hesitant to take any action to obsolete the Yahoo group due to the lack of awareness about the change. In fact, as we were setting up the Google alternative, Yahoo matched Google by expanding the file storage from 20mb to 100mb, reducing the motivation for a change.
I'm more than open to suggestions.
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From: nealpolan
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Transition to Google Groups

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Youngblood" wrote:
>I agree. I thought we were switching to Google as well. It seems we
are using Yahoo more then Google. Very confusing.
Neal

> It seems like everyone is ignoring our request to transition from
> Yahoo Groups to Google Groups. In case you weren't aware, the Google
> Group can be found here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/disklavier
>
> Please sign up if you haven't already. In general, it's much more
> user-friendly, in my opinion, than Yahoo.
>
> Todd, can you think of other ways we can encourage this transition?
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>

Re: [disklavier] Transition to Google Groups

2007-06-21 by James Fry

Danny wrote:
> If I remember, you were the person who was pushing for this new Google Group to 
> be formed. It was also mentioned a while back that the Yahoo group would remain.
>
> There is also DUG, the YahooGroups Disklavier group, there was the old 
> dug@... group, the old disklavier@egroups.com, etc. It is getting a 
> bit confusing with all of the newer groups being started over the years.
>
>   

What is confusing? DUG is dug@...
The yahoo group is the disklavier@egroups.com - yahoo bought egroups.
 
So the only new group is the disklavier one, which was a response to a 
few things, not least the limited file storage (now fixed), the annoying 
format of emails, and the double/triple messages and messages getting 
randomly lost. Once everyone had moved to the google group, the yahoo 
group would have been closed for new messages no doubt.

> Personally, I have not seen much of a difference between the Yahoo and Google 
> groups regarding the day-to-day emails I receive from both of them. There also 
> has been the recent contraversy regarding Google and the collection of some 
> personal data regarding folks' surfing...
>
>   

For me, the google mails are less intrusive than those from yahoo. They 
have much less boilerplate spam at the bottom, and are easier to reply 
to. I don't use the web interfaces I think they are too cumbersome - 
besides, I like my email client and the way it works, and that I can 
read and reply to my emails offline.

Regarding your second point, if you think Yahoo, Microsoft, Ask, AOL and 
all the other big players aren't gathering the same statistics you have 
your head in the sand. There are conferences where this stuff is openly 
discussed, and papers regularly published. Your email stored on services 
such as these is being mined

<rant>
If you don't want to be photographed in public, don't go out into the 
street. If you don't want your internet usage monitored - especially 
your usage of services provided free to you by companies - then don't 
use the internet. Similarly, if you don't want statistics generated on 
your telephone call records, ditch your mobile and land phones. Your 
purchase habits are monitored by stores by storing this information 
against your credit and club cards or, if you used cash, just 
co-purchased items - so don't go shopping at high street stores or buy 
every item on a separate transaction using cash. Banks use the same 
technique for fraud detection, so stop buying stuff with your cards - 
for a security question recently I got asked which petrol (gas) station 
in my town I use most frequently. To single out google for this is 
unwarranted.
</rant>


> What is the main advantage to the new Google Group over what we already have?
>

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