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Questions to you disklavier experts . . .

I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a national sport. I 
would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to professional concert 
pianists to record their performances.  

My question is this:  will their performances be expressed well on 
normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with strings, or do they 
need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a proper recording of 
their work?  Will they be able to send files to someone in another 
country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play beautifully?  Could 
someone effectively audition for the e-piano competition, for example?

Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.

Best,

Joe V.

great question!

Basically, recording on any Disklavier whether the
electronics are installed on an acoustic piano or an
electronic one, generates the same MIDI data.  However,
the artist may react differently to what they hear
while recording, so that could affect sustain.  A
vibrating string keeps vibrating until you use the
damper pedal or take your finger off the key. However,
I think the Gran Touch's software is designed well
enough to duplicate that.

Carol Beigel


----- Original Message -----
From: "cmmfx" <planet.productions@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Recording on the Gran Touch and
playing on


> Questions to you disklavier experts . . .
>
> I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a
national sport. I
> would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to
professional concert
> pianists to record their performances.
>
> My question is this:  will their performances be
expressed well on
> normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with
strings, or do they
> need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a
proper recording of
> their work?  Will they be able to send files to
someone in another
> country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play
beautifully?  Could
> someone effectively audition for the e-piano
competition, for example?
>
> Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.
>
> Best,
>
> Joe V.
>
>
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Thanks Carol,

You sound like an expert (and you are! 
http://www.carolrpt.com/webguide.htm )  Maybe I will have some 
recordings done and forward them to you or others interested with 
acoustic disklaviers to get some opinions.

I work with some univeristy piano students who love playing my Gran 
Touch.  They tell me their only complaints are not being able 
to 'feel' the strings when they play, and the all too perfect sound 
of the samples.

The pedals do not move when playing recorded performances, I assume 
the recordings reflect the pedal action.  Am I correct?

Thanks once again . . .

Joe V.
 
--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> 
wrote:

>
> Basically, recording on any Disklavier whether the
> electronics are installed on an acoustic piano or an
> electronic one, generates the same MIDI data.  However,
> the artist may react differently to what they hear
> while recording, so that could affect sustain.  A
> vibrating string keeps vibrating until you use the
> damper pedal or take your finger off the key. However,
> I think the Gran Touch's software is designed well
> enough to duplicate that.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cmmfx" <planet.productions@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:38 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Recording on the Gran Touch and
> playing on
> 
> 
> > Questions to you disklavier experts . . .
> >
> > I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a
> national sport. I
> > would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to
> professional concert
> > pianists to record their performances.
> >
> > My question is this:  will their performances be
> expressed well on
> > normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with
> strings, or do they
> > need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a
> proper recording of
> > their work?  Will they be able to send files to
> someone in another
> > country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play
> beautifully?  Could
> > someone effectively audition for the e-piano
> competition, for example?
> >
> > Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Joe V.
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
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We have done 3 recordings in the same studio - 2 were
done with a Yamaha C7 and the 3rd recording had the
piano part recorded straight from a DGT-2 to Digital
performer and then taken to the studio where some midi
tracks were replaced by some sound samplers.  When
completed - most people do not know that we did not
use the C7 and are surprised to hear that a DGT-2 was
used.  It is an incredibly accurate reproduction of a
piano and we love the DGT-2. 

The resonating string issue is handled well by the
samples and the software, and the keyboard has the
proper touch and feel for the pianist to feel as if
they are on a regular piano.

Alan
--- Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote:

> Basically, recording on any Disklavier whether the
> electronics are installed on an acoustic piano or an
> electronic one, generates the same MIDI data. 
> However,
> the artist may react differently to what they hear
> while recording, so that could affect sustain.  A
> vibrating string keeps vibrating until you use the
> damper pedal or take your finger off the key.
> However,
> I think the Gran Touch's software is designed well
> enough to duplicate that.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cmmfx" <planet.productions@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:38 PM
> Subject: [disklavier] Recording on the Gran Touch
> and
> playing on
> 
> 
> > Questions to you disklavier experts . . .
> >
> > I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a
> national sport. I
> > would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to
> professional concert
> > pianists to record their performances.
> >
> > My question is this:  will their performances be
> expressed well on
> > normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with
> strings, or do they
> > need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a
> proper recording of
> > their work?  Will they be able to send files to
> someone in another
> > country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play
> beautifully?  Could
> > someone effectively audition for the e-piano
> competition, for example?
> >
> > Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Joe V.
> >
> >
> >
> > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> disklavier@...
> >
> > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
> group's
> founder and moderator, send it to:
> > disklavier-owner@...
> >
> > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> >
> > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you
> are
> getting too much mail, go the the web site and
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> the
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> >
> >
> 
> 


       
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You are also welcome to send any files to me. They will be played on 
a Yamaha DC3M4. I will offer you an honest opinion of their quality. 
I am also curious how well they adapt and play being initially 
recorded on a Gran Touch. Thanks, Steve

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "cmmfx" <planet.productions@...> 
wrote:

>
> Thanks Carol,
> 
> You sound like an expert (and you are! 
> http://www.carolrpt.com/webguide.htm )  Maybe I will have some 
> recordings done and forward them to you or others interested with 
> acoustic disklaviers to get some opinions.
> 
> I work with some univeristy piano students who love playing my Gran 
> Touch.  They tell me their only complaints are not being able 
> to 'feel' the strings when they play, and the all too perfect sound 
> of the samples.
> 
> The pedals do not move when playing recorded performances, I assume 
> the recordings reflect the pedal action.  Am I correct?
> 
> Thanks once again . . .
> 
> Joe V.
>  
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Basically, recording on any Disklavier whether the
> > electronics are installed on an acoustic piano or an
> > electronic one, generates the same MIDI data.  However,
> > the artist may react differently to what they hear
> > while recording, so that could affect sustain.  A
> > vibrating string keeps vibrating until you use the
> > damper pedal or take your finger off the key. However,
> > I think the Gran Touch's software is designed well
> > enough to duplicate that.
> > 
> > Carol Beigel
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cmmfx" <planet.productions@>
> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Recording on the Gran Touch and
> > playing on
> > 
> > 
> > > Questions to you disklavier experts . . .
> > >
> > > I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a
> > national sport. I
> > > would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to
> > professional concert
> > > pianists to record their performances.
> > >
> > > My question is this:  will their performances be
> > expressed well on
> > > normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with
> > strings, or do they
> > > need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a
> > proper recording of
> > > their work?  Will they be able to send files to
> > someone in another
> > > country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play
> > beautifully?  Could
> > > someone effectively audition for the e-piano
> > competition, for example?
> > >
> > > Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Joe V.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> > disklavier@
> > >
> > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's
> > founder and moderator, send it to:
> > > disklavier-owner@
> > >
> > > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > >
> > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are
> > getting too much mail, go the the web site and change
> > your email delivery option instead.  That will fix the
> > problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> > If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> > email to:
> > > disklavier-unsubscribe@
> > >
> > > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
> > blank email to:
> > > disklavier-subscribe@ or give them this
> > link:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Thanks to all . . . i look forward to getting some real samples on 
line and continuing this discussion.

If you have not listened to the e-piano competition recordings, take 
some time to download everything they have.  I am sure you will be 
glad to have these recordings in your collection.  They have 
recordigns from three seperate competitions . . . 2006 with the most 
advanced and enhanced recordings . . .

http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/participants_2006.asp
http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/midi_2004.asp
http://www.piano-e-competition.com/ecompetition/midi_2002.asp

Best to you all,

Joe V.
Direct from Warsaw!

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Alan Chapman <dj_9225@...> wrote:
>
> We have done 3 recordings in the same studio - 2 were
> done with a Yamaha C7 and the 3rd recording had the
> piano part recorded straight from a DGT-2 to Digital
> performer and then taken to the studio where some midi
> tracks were replaced by some sound samplers.  When
> completed - most people do not know that we did not
> use the C7 and are surprised to hear that a DGT-2 was
> used.  It is an incredibly accurate reproduction of a
> piano and we love the DGT-2. 
> 
> The resonating string issue is handled well by the
> samples and the software, and the keyboard has the
> proper touch and feel for the pianist to feel as if
> they are on a regular piano.
> 
> Alan
> --- Carol Beigel <thecarolb@...> wrote:
> 
> > Basically, recording on any Disklavier whether the
> > electronics are installed on an acoustic piano or an
> > electronic one, generates the same MIDI data. 
> > However,
> > the artist may react differently to what they hear
> > while recording, so that could affect sustain.  A
> > vibrating string keeps vibrating until you use the
> > damper pedal or take your finger off the key.
> > However,
> > I think the Gran Touch's software is designed well
> > enough to duplicate that.
> > 
> > Carol Beigel
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cmmfx" <planet.productions@...>
> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [disklavier] Recording on the Gran Touch
> > and
> > playing on
> > 
> > 
> > > Questions to you disklavier experts . . .
> > >
> > > I live in Poland where being a pianist is almost a
> > national sport. I
> > > would like to offer my Gran Touch digital piano to
> > professional concert
> > > pianists to record their performances.
> > >
> > > My question is this:  will their performances be
> > expressed well on
> > > normal disklavier pianos, meaning diklaviers with
> > strings, or do they
> > > need to record on a stringed disklavier to have a
> > proper recording of
> > > their work?  Will they be able to send files to
> > someone in another
> > > country and have a 'normal' disklavier piano play
> > beautifully?  Could
> > > someone effectively audition for the e-piano
> > competition, for example?
> > >
> > > Hope this makes sense, thanks for help.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Joe V.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Post a message to the group, send it to:
> > disklavier@...
> > >
> > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the
> > group's
> > founder and moderator, send it to:
> > > disklavier-owner@...
> > >
> > > To reach our group's web site go to:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier
> > >
> > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
> > > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you
> > are
> > getting too much mail, go the the web site and
> > change
> > your email delivery option instead.  That will fix
> > the
> > problem, while maintaining your access to the group.
> > If you insist on leaving us completely send a blank
> > email to:
> > > disklavier-unsubscribe@...
> > >
> > > Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a
> > blank email to:
> > > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this
> > link:
> > > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
>        
> 
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