Disklavier

Hi everyone:

I'm new to the group and recently got a Disklavier Mark IV Pro Grand Piano.

I have been having loads of fun playing around with it.

I had questions regarding importing digital audio files into the Disklavier's User Library if 
anyone knew.

1. Is there another way of importing digital audio files (not MIDI files) into the Disklavier 
User Library other than importing it from an audio CD?  I would like to do some SPS 
recording with MP3 files that I have on my computer.  I tried moving them through a USB 
flash drive to the Disklavier, but it won't recognize them.

2. I know when you import digital audio from the CD, it converts them into WAV files.  I 
tried converting my digital audio files to WAV format too, but the Disklavier wouldn't 
recognize them on my USB flash drive.  Is there a special encoding that it needs to be 
recognized, or it won't recognize any digital audio formats via USB?

If it's not possible, I hope Yamaha can make it so.  It would help take out the step of 
burning an audio CD on my computer and importing it onto the Disklavier for SPS 
recording.

- Mario

Mario,

I don't think there is any way to do what you want short of burning a real audio CD and letting the piano read that.  I've tried and failed.  I agree it would be nice if Yamaha started to support MP3s.

I've been producing audio + midi files with MID2PianoCD recently, and being forced to burn to CD is annoying.  Also annoying is that the Piano refuses to store these anywhere but in the "PianoSoft" catagory when I put them onto the piano's hard-drive.  Fortunately, DKVBrowser then allows me to move them to the "User" category where I want them.  Can't do that from the PDA or the tablet because it seems to make the assumption that there is no such thing as Audio+Midi that is anything but "Pianosoft Plus Audio", and therefore it has to live in the "Pianosoft" category.  It works fine from the "user" category, but there's no guarantee that a future "upgrade" won't break that.

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: Mario Ajero <mario.ajero@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:41:50 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Audio files into Disklavier hard drive

                  Hi everyone:

I'm new to the group and recently got a Disklavier Mark IV Pro Grand Piano.

I have been having loads of fun playing around with it.

I had questions regarding importing digital audio files into the Disklavier's User Library if 
anyone knew.

1. Is there another way of importing digital audio files (not MIDI files) into the Disklavier 
User Library other than importing it from an audio CD?  I would like to do some SPS 
recording with MP3 files that I have on my computer.  I tried moving them through a USB 
flash drive to the Disklavier, but it won't recognize them.

2. I know when you import digital audio from the CD, it converts them into WAV files.  I 
tried converting my digital audio files to WAV format too, but the Disklavier wouldn't 
recognize them on my USB flash drive.  Is there a special encoding that it needs to be 
recognized, or it won't recognize any digital audio formats via USB?

If it's not possible, I hope Yamaha can make it so.  It would help take out the step of 
burning an audio CD on my computer and importing it onto the Disklavier for SPS 
recording.

- Mario


    
          
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Kevin Goroway wrote:

> I've been producing audio + midi files with MID2PianoCD recently, and
> being forced to burn to CD is annoying.  Also annoying is that the
> Piano refuses to store these anywhere but in the "PianoSoft" catagory
> when I put them onto the piano's hard-drive.  Fortunately, DKVBrowser
> then allows me to move them to the "User" category where I want them.  
> Can't do that from the PDA or the tablet because it seems to make the
> assumption that there is no such thing as Audio+Midi that is anything
> but "Pianosoft Plus Audio", and therefore it has to live in the
> "Pianosoft" category.

Just curious: where do the tracks end up when you import a piano+audio
CD in a competitor's format?

Also, might it be possible to copy WAV or MP3 files directly to the
Disklavier's hard drive and then manually add them to the database using
a client like DKVBrowser?  (That is, trick the Disklavier into thinking
it has already imported them the normal way?)

Mark

Mark, I don't have any CDs from the competitors, so I can't answer that.  From my testing though, unless you are marking the files somehow to indicate that they are "pianosoft", the disklavier is making that assumption.  It even calls the CD "PSPA" for "Pianosoft plus audio".

Unfortunately, we have no direct access to the harddrive on the piano, so we can't put files there ourselves.  Even if we did, DKVBrowser doesn't expose the database directly (it's exposed all by itself if you just install a postgres browser, though).

-Kevin

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Fontana <mfontana@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:09:03 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Audio files into Disklavier hard drive

                  

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Kevin Goroway wrote:

> I've been producing audio + midi files with MID2PianoCD recently, and
> being forced to burn to CD is annoying.  Also annoying is that the
> Piano refuses to store these anywhere but in the "PianoSoft" catagory
> when I put them onto the piano's hard-drive.  Fortunately, DKVBrowser
> then allows me to move them to the "User" category where I want them.  
> Can't do that from the PDA or the tablet because it seems to make the
> assumption that there is no such thing as Audio+Midi that is anything
> but "Pianosoft Plus Audio", and therefore it has to live in the
> "Pianosoft" category.

Just curious: where do the tracks end up when you import a piano+audio
CD in a competitor's format?

Also, might it be possible to copy WAV or MP3 files directly to the
Disklavier's hard drive and then manually add them to the database using
a client like DKVBrowser?  (That is, trick the Disklavier into thinking
it has already imported them the normal way?)

Mark


    
          
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Thanks for answers, Kevin.

Another feature that I would like to see is the capability of recording through the 
Microphone or Line-In in order to create a PianoSoft file that has you playing the piano on 
the Disklavier in sync with singing into the microphone.

I'm pretty sure that the latest Clavinova CVP models have this capability, so it would be 
nice to see them on the Disklavier as well.

Mario

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Goroway <kgoroway@...> wrote:
>
> Mario,
> 
> I don't think there is any way to do what you want short of burning a real audio CD and 
letting the piano read that.  I've tried and failed.  I agree it would be nice if Yamaha started 
to support MP3s.
> 
> I've been producing audio + midi files with MID2PianoCD recently, and being forced to 
burn to CD is annoying.  Also annoying is that the Piano refuses to store these anywhere 
but in the "PianoSoft" catagory when I put them onto the piano's hard-drive.  Fortunately, 
DKVBrowser then allows me to move them to the "User" category where I want them.  Can't 
do that from the PDA or the tablet because it seems to make the assumption that there is 
no such thing as Audio+Midi that is anything but "Pianosoft Plus Audio", and therefore it 
has to live in the "Pianosoft" category.  It works fine from the "user" category, but there's 
no guarantee that a future "upgrade" won't break that.

> 
> -Kevin
>