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2008-02-13 by ramseymonoi

Hi there,

I am moving along in my discovery, and I am thinking of getting the 
following setup:

a PC to store midi files and run CUBASE SE, connected to my disklavier 
via USB port, and to a Roland JV2080 sound module via another USB port.

The latter will be connected to my pre-amplifier.

I am being told that the sounds coming out of those modules such as the 
Roland are very lifelike, and better than what a MK2XG can produce. Is 
that true ?

Am I doing the right thing ? Has anyone got a similar setup ?

Looking forward to your thoughts,

Pascal

Re: [disklavier] setup

2008-02-14 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

Hi Pascal Just be sure to connect the MIDI OUT of the PC, to the MIDI IN of the DKV and then the MIDI OUT of the DKV to the MIDI IN of the first MIDI device

Re: [disklavier] setup

2008-02-14 by p g

Hi Jorge,

Thank you for your answer. My DKV is a mark 2, not the XG version.

I did not think of the delay due to the DKV mechanical parts ! I will check the manual, but I do not remember anything about midi thru. However, what would the midi out be for ?

I was thinking of using Cubase because it allows me to direct the different channels to the different midi devices, directly from the pc. Which means channel 1 to the dkv, and the rest to the roland sound module.

Because of this delay, and assuming that the midi out works as a thru, the gnmidi software I have would be sufficient.

Which synths do you have ?

Pascal

JORGE FERNANDEZ wrote:

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Hi Pascal

Just be sure to connect the MIDI OUT of the PC, to the MIDI IN of the DKV and then the MIDI OUT of the DKV to the MIDI IN of the first MIDI device involved.

This is due a delay (latency) of the DKV mechanical parts.

I can't remember the correct setups in the DKV controller to make the MIDI OUT port work like a MIDI THRU port.

If you are using the Yamaha serial to host (drivers and cable) then you will have 2 midi out ports in the PC, one for the DKV (and the DKV XG internal module) and one "wired" to the midi out.

As far as I know, if you are using a USB to MIDI or any other MIDI connection, you will depend on the MIDI channel assignments of your sequences and the DKV controller setup.

About the quality of the sounds it depends on you personal taste an the instrument famlily (strings, brass, etc.)

I have a mixer before the amplifier, so depoending on each file arrangement, I listem to one, the other or both Synths.

You also can mix audio using the audio IN of the DKV and then audio OUT to the amplifier.

Your choice.

2008/2/13, ramseymonoi <ramseymonoi@yahoo.co.uk>:

Hi there,

I am moving along in my discovery, and I am thinking of getting the
following setup:

a PC to store midi files and run CUBASE SE, connected to my disklavier
via USB port, and to a Roland JV2080 sound module via another USB port.

The latter will be connected to my pre-amplifier.

I am being told that the sounds coming out of those modules such as the
Roland are very lifelike, and better than what a MK2XG can produce. Is
that true ?

Am I doing the right thing ? Has anyone got a similar setup ?

Looking forward to your thoughts,

Pascal

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Re: [disklavier] setup

2008-02-14 by George F. Litterst

Good morning, everyone, and greetings from the Virtual Audition  
playback of the e-Junior Competition at Yamaha Artist Services in NYC.

Just to clarify the delay situation:

Normally when the Disklavier is set to receive MIDI data from an  
external source, it receives the MIDI data and applies a 500 ms (i.e.  
1/2 second) delay. It does this in order to calculate when to start  
moving the hammers so that they strike the strings at the correct  
times relative to each other.

Without the 500 ms delay, the Disklavier starts the movement of each  
key the moment that a note-on message is received. Some number of  
milliseconds later you hear the hammer hit the string. The amount of  
delay, in this situation, is dependent upon the velocity of the note.  
The 500 ms delay corrects for this AND delays the playback of other  
MIDI tracks by the same amount.

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com

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On Feb 14, 2008, at 11:03 AM, p g wrote:

>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> Thank you for your answer. My DKV is a mark 2, not the XG version.
>
> I did not think of the delay due to the DKV mechanical parts ! I  
> will check the manual, but I do not remember anything about midi  
> thru. However, what would the midi out be for ?
>
> I was thinking of using Cubase because it allows me to direct the  
> different channels to the different midi devices, directly from the  
> pc. Which means channel 1 to the dkv, and the rest to the roland  
> sound module.
>
> Because of this delay, and assuming that the midi out works as a  
> thru, the gnmidi software I have would be sufficient.
>
> Which synths do you have ?
>
> Pascal
>
> JORGE FERNANDEZ <jorgefedez@...> wrote:
> Hi Pascal
> Just be sure to connect the MIDI OUT of the PC, to the MIDI IN of  
> the DKV and then the MIDI OUT of the DKV to the MIDI IN of the first  
> MIDI device involved.
> This is due a delay (latency) of the DKV mechanical parts.
> I can't remember the correct setups in the DKV controller to make  
> the MIDI OUT port work like a MIDI THRU port.
> If you are using the Yamaha serial to host (drivers and cable) then  
> you will have 2 midi out ports in the PC, one for the DKV (and the  
> DKV XG internal module) and one "wired" to the midi out.
> As far as I know, if you are using a USB to MIDI or any other MIDI  
> connection, you will depend on the MIDI channel assignments of your  
> sequences and the DKV controller setup.
> About the quality of the sounds it depends on you personal taste an  
> the instrument famlily (strings, brass, etc.)
>
> I have a mixer before the amplifier, so depoending on each file  
> arrangement, I listem to one, the other or both Synths.
>
> You also can mix audio using the audio IN of the DKV and then audio  
> OUT to the amplifier.
> Your choice.
>
>
> 2008/2/13, ramseymonoi <ramseymonoi@yahoo.co.uk>:
> Hi there,
>
> I am moving along in my discovery, and I am thinking of getting the
> following setup:
>
> a PC to store midi files and run CUBASE SE, connected to my disklavier
> via USB port, and to a Roland JV2080 sound module via another USB  
> port.
>
> The latter will be connected to my pre-amplifier.
>
> I am being told that the sounds coming out of those modules such as  
> the
> Roland are very lifelike, and better than what a MK2XG can produce. Is
> that true ?
>
> Am I doing the right thing ? Has anyone got a similar setup ?
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts,
>
> Pascal
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Saludos
> Jorge Fernández

Re: [disklavier] setup

2008-02-14 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

Pascal, mine is also an upright (but XG sound module) I have a very old Roland sound canvas hardware PC card. The pc is also very old but very MIDI player