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Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-06 by sma3us

Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my home network. 

I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's IP space.  I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless clients in my network.  These clients are in the 192.168.2.### range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.### range.
I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
Is this possible?  Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?

Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-07 by prsmith777

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year.  As far as I could tell, you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed.  

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as well.  THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small you cant see it under the piano.  This is a gaming router which is usually the easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is pretty awesome.  Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sma3us" <sma@...> wrote:

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>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my home network. 
> 
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's IP space.  I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless clients in my network.  These clients are in the 192.168.2.### range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.### range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible?  Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-07 by athomik

You have to use the router method as the wireless link between the piano and the remote control is dedicated to that application and cannot be access by anything else. An alternative to the wireless router would be a system by a company called devolo (see http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/index.html for details) This uses your mains circuit to transmit data. This can be especially useful if you get a lot of problems with interference or dropout on your wireless system. You can get this system set up & ready to go from Yamaha - call 08704445575 for details. All you need to do i plud the system into your piano and your router and you're up and running.

athomik
On Aug 7 2009, prsmith777 wrote:

>I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year. As far as I could tell, you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed.
>
>But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.
>
>I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small you cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is usually the easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as XBox.
>
>I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.
>
>Paul
>
>--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "sma3us" wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my home network.
>>
>> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.### range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.### range.
>> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
>> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>>
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-07 by Kevin Goroway

I think the orignal question was about the piano's native wireless interface. It is not advisable to add that to your home network. ; There is nothing useful on that wireless network as it's sole purpose is to allow the pocket remote (and/or) tablet to control the piano.

The network port that you want to get onto your home network (for Disklavier Radio, DKVBrowser, etc.) is not wireless by default. Many people do as Paul suggested and attach that to a wireless gaming router, or something similar to turn it into a wireless port.

-Kevin

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From: prsmith777
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:33:53 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year. As far as I could tell, you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed.

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small you cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is usually the easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogro ups.com, "sma3us" wrote:
>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my home network.
>
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.## # range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.# ## range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-08 by Stephen Alston

Thanks all for your input. Yes Kevin is correct. My primary interest is
getting the wireless IP address to be in my home network IP subnet. If its
in the same subnet, then I can use the virtual PRC and still b able to go
other things on my network, like Internet or printing etc.  I have a hard
wired jack available for the regular LAN interface so that's already getting
an IP address from my switch.

 

Steve

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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 07:20
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I think the orignal question was about the piano's native wireless
interface.  It is not advisable to add that to your home network.  There is
nothing useful on that wireless network as it's sole purpose is to allow the
pocket remote (and/or) tablet to control the piano.

The network port that you want to get onto your home network (for Disklavier
Radio, DKVBrowser, etc.) is not wireless by default.  Many people do as Paul
suggested and attach that to a wireless gaming router, or something similar
to turn it into a wireless port.

-Kevin

  _____  

From: prsmith777 <prsmith777@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:33:53 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year. As far as I could tell,
you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed. 

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router
that will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use
encryption as well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so
small you cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is
usually the easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming
units such as XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is
pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogro <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>  ups.com,
"sma3us" <sma@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my
home network. 
> 
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home
network's IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and
wireless clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.## #
range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.# ## range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

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Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-08 by Kevin Goroway

Steve,

The virtual PRC works via the hard wired jack, not the wireless interface.  If your piano is already connected to the internet, then the virutal PRC should work as well.




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From: Stephen Alston <sma@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:50:00 AM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Thanks all for your input. Yes Kevin is correct. My primary
interest is getting the wireless IP address to be in my home network IP subnet.
If its in the same subnet, then I can use the virtual PRC and still b able to
go other things on my network, like Internet or printing etc.  I have a
hard wired jack available for the regular LAN interface so that’s already
getting an IP address from my switch.

Steve
From:disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 07:20
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I
think the orignal question was about the piano's native wireless
interface.  It is not advisable to add that to your home network.  There
is nothing useful on that wireless network as it's sole purpose is to allow the
pocket remote (and/or) tablet to control the piano.

The
network port that you want to get onto your home network (for Disklavier Radio,
DKVBrowser, etc.) is not wireless by default.  Many people do as Paul
suggested and attach that to a wireless gaming router, or something similar to
turn it into a wireless port.

-Kevin

________________________________

From:prsmith777
<prsmith777@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:33:53 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last
year. As far as I could tell, you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed. 

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that
will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as
well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small
you cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is usually the
easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as
XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is
pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogro
ups.com, "sma3us" <sma@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my
home network. 
> 
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's
IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless
clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.## # range whereas
the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.# ## range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

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found in this incoming message.
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RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-20 by Stephen Alston

Hi Kevn,

  I’ve been remiss in not replying to your post regarding networking the the Virtual PRC.  I now reference the Disklavier by IP address & it works exactly as I wanted. Now I can control it from my laptop and still have the network functionality I always  have.  Thanks much for the advise.

 

Steve

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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:35
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Steve,

The virtual PRC works via the hard wired jack, not the wireless interface.  If your piano is already connected to the internet, then the virutal PRC should work as well.

  _____  

From: Stephen Alston <sma@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:50:00 AM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Thanks all for your input. Yes Kevin is correct. My primary interest is getting the wireless IP address to be in my home network IP subnet. If its in the same subnet, then I can use the virtual PRC and still b able to go other things on my network, like Internet or printing etc.  I have a hard wired jack available for the regular LAN interface so that’s already getting an IP address from my switch.

Steve

From: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 07:20
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I think the orignal question was about the piano's native wireless interface.  It is not advisable to add that to your home network.  There is nothing useful on that wireless network as it's sole purpose is to allow the pocket remote (and/or) tablet to control the piano.

The network port that you want to get onto your home network (for Disklavier Radio, DKVBrowser, etc.) is not wireless by default.  Many people do as Paul suggested and attach that to a wireless gaming router, or something similar to turn it into a wireless port.

-Kevin

  _____  

From: prsmith777 <prsmith777@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:33:53 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year. As far as I could tell, you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed. 

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small you cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is usually the easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogro <mailto:disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>  ups.com, "sma3us" <sma@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my home network. 
> 
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home network's IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and wireless clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.## # range whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.# ## range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

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Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

2009-08-21 by Kevin Goroway

Ah, glad it worked out for you.  I know the piano's networking interfaces can be very confusing.  Mostly because it has two of them, and many people convert the hard wired one to wireless and then refer to it as such.  *sigh*




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From: Stephen Alston <sma@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:45:14 PM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Hi Kevn,
  I’ve been remiss in not replying to your post regarding
networking the the Virtual PRC.  I now reference the Disklavier by IP address
& it works exactly as I wanted. Now I can control it from my laptop and
still have the network functionality I always  have.  Thanks much for the
advise.

Steve

From:disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Goroway
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:35
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Steve,

The virtual PRC works via the hard wired jack, not the wireless
interface.  If your piano is already connected to the internet, then the
virutal PRC should work as well.

________________________________

From:Stephen Alston
<sma@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:50:00 AM
Subject: RE: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

Thanks all for your input. Yes Kevin is
correct. My primary interest is getting the wireless IP address to be in my
home network IP subnet. If its in the same subnet, then I can use the virtual
PRC and still b able to go other things on my network, like Internet or
printing etc.  I have a hard wired jack available for the regular LAN
interface so that’s already getting an IP address from my switch.

Steve
From:disklavier@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:disklavier@
yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kevin Goroway
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 07:20
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I think the orignal question was about the piano's
native wireless interface.  It is not advisable to add that to your home
network.  There is nothing useful on that wireless network as it's sole
purpose is to allow the pocket remote (and/or) tablet to control the piano.

The network port that you want to get onto your home
network (for Disklavier Radio, DKVBrowser, etc.) is not wireless by
default.  Many people do as Paul suggested and attach that to a wireless
gaming router, or something similar to turn it into a wireless port.

-Kevin

________________________________

From:prsmith777 <prsmith777@yahoo. com>
To: disklavier@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:33:53 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Networking Disklavier MarkIV

I wondered the same thing when I got mine last year. As far as I could tell,
you cant change the IP of the piano, it is fixed. 

But there is a nice workaround and that is to get yourself a small router that
will translate that IP to any IP you want and then you can use encryption as
well. THe piano has no native encryption, if I recall.

I bought the Linksys WGA600N and it works without a problem and it's so small you
cant see it under the piano. This is a gaming router which is usually the
easiest to set up as they are made to translate IPs of gaming units such as
XBox.

I access the piano entirely through this router using DKVbrowser which is
pretty awesome. Just waiting for someone to develop an Iphone app now.

Paul

--- In disklavier@yahoogro
ups.com, "sma3us" <sma@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible or advisable to include the Dislavier wireless port in my
home network. 
> 
> I'd like to assign the wireless an IP address that's within my home
network's IP space. I'd like to then use the Virtual PRC from my wired and
wireless clients in my network. These clients are in the 192.168.2.## # range
whereas the DKIV is in the 192.168.88.# ## range.
> I'd like the DKIV to be in the 192.168.2.XXX IP space.
> Is this possible? Also can the DKIV use wireless encryption?
>

No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.40/2276 - Release Date: 08/01/09
18:04:00

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found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.40/2276 - Release Date: 08/01/09
18:04:00