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----- Original Message -----

From: kenmortgages

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:08 PM

Subject: [disklavier] Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology

Morning all

I thought I'd post this warning about new technology as I spent hours yesterday searching for the answer. Last week I took posession of a few more PianoSoft Plus disks from the US. I never use original disks - always a copy and mostly from the hard drive attached to the Disklavier, using YAMPlayer.

The problem - I have recently upgraded my workhorse desktop and no longer have a floppy drive inbuilt; I use a USB floppy which I transfer from PC to Notebook etc. To my horror I found that whilst I could boot from a DOS disk and load dkvcopy from the USB floppy, the program wouldn't recognise the PianoSoft disk in the floppy drive. Looking on Carol's website I came across a few other programs - riparoot for DOS and rootaripper for XP from the command window. Neither program worked with the USB floppy.

Solution - in a friend's office this morning, I used his old XP with in-built floppy drive - and low and behold, immediate sucess with all of the above programs! I appears that the USB drive is not recognised by the operating system even though I can boot from that drive, copy files and so forth. This is quite a worrying thing as most notebooks from about 2000 onwards don't have an inbuilt floppy drive, and most desktop motherboards don't contain a IDE output for floppy drives any more (note that to drive a floppy the IDE output is 32 pins, and IDE hard drives have 40 pin sockets - which are often present beside SATA sockets).

You may not need to copy/backup PianoSoft files very often but be warned you need a floppy drive which runs directly off the motherboard. I'll put in some more research but I don't think there is a simple answer - other than keeping an old legacy sytem.

Cheers
Ken

From: "Spencer_Lists" <lists@...>
To: "Frank & Gean Evans" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology


> Greetings Frank,
>
> I also have a number of "legacy" applications that need to be run in
> XP. I have found what I think is an ideal computer for this and have
> about 4 of them. Dell makes a line of computers called Optiplex. They
> are very common as POP computers and as little distributed
> workstations often networked to a server in places like doctor's
> offices. They are made to be simple small and reliable. Most fit the
> "SFF" (small form factor) size range. New ones cost quite a bit but
> the are regularly available as "refurbished". The really neat thing
> about these computers is that you can get the best of older and newer
> computers together in one small package for very little money. My most
> recent one has a CRRW DVD combo drive, 8 USB 2 ports, PS2 keyboard
> connector, 3 GHZ Pentium 4 512 G memory (ubgradable to quite a bit
> more) a worthless 40 gig hard drive which I replaced with an old 320.
> This computer has serial ATA so a good source for cheap replacement
> drives is to get a (now) small external hard drive for close to
> nothing. Almost all Optiplex computers older than the newest ones,
> have floppy drives. This last little computer cost me $139 not
> including the upgrade to a larger drive. It came with Win XP proSP3
> for refurbished computers and even has an installation disc. This
> computer will never be connected to the internet so updates are not
> necessary but they can be gotten for as long as microsoft supports XP
> which will probably be for a few more years.
>
> Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:25:31 PM, you wrote: >
>> Your last sentience says it all.
>> I have always and will always keep an older system running WIN-ME
>> with a bare minimum of utilities. It has 1 CDRW and one DVDRW as
>> well as a 3 1/2 inch floppy drive.
>> As time goes on you will find there are a lot of things that the
>> latest and greatest will not (allow) you to do.
>> With ME you can always drop to DOS as well.
>> All this costs now is a little space as the "resale value" of a system 
>> that old is $0.00
>> Kindest regards
>> Frank
>> Frank & Gean Evans
>> www.hfevans.com
>> www.mcatos.org
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: kenmortgages
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:08 PM
>> Subject: [disklavier] Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology
>
>>
>
>> Morning all
>
>> I thought I'd post this warning about new technology as I spent
>> hours yesterday searching for the answer. Last week I took posession
>> of a few more PianoSoft Plus disks from the US. I never use original
>> disks - always a copy and mostly from the hard drive attached to the 
>> Disklavier, using YAMPlayer.
>
>> The problem - I have recently upgraded my workhorse desktop and no
>> longer have a floppy drive inbuilt; I use a USB floppy which I
>> transfer from PC to Notebook etc. To my horror I found that whilst I
>> could boot from a DOS disk and load dkvcopy from the USB floppy, the
>> program wouldn't recognise the PianoSoft disk in the floppy drive.
>> Looking on Carol's website I came across a few other programs -
>> riparoot for DOS and rootaripper for XP from the command window.
>> Neither program worked with the USB floppy.
>
>> Solution - in a friend's office this morning, I used his old XP
>> with in-built floppy drive - and low and behold, immediate sucess
>> with all of the above programs! I appears that the USB drive is not
>> recognised by the operating system even though I can boot from that
>> drive, copy files and so forth. This is quite a worrying thing as
>> most notebooks from about 2000 onwards don't have an inbuilt floppy
>> drive, and most desktop motherboards don't contain a IDE output for
>> floppy drives any more (note that to drive a floppy the IDE output
>> is 32 pins, and IDE hard drives have 40 pin sockets - which are
>> often present beside SATA sockets).
>
>> You may not need to copy/backup PianoSoft files very often but be
>> warned you need a floppy drive which runs directly off the
>> motherboard. I'll put in some more research but I don't think there
>> is a simple answer - other than keeping an old legacy sytem.
>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>
>>
>
>
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>
> I absolutely agree. The Dells have another "good feature". From a full 
> format you do not have to activate WIN XP if you use a Dell XP disk. Saves a 
> lot of time.
> I have just recently disposed of a bunch of the GX270-280s when the local 
> Comm. Col. had an auction. The working ones went for $5.00 - $10.00 and the 
> ones that had "bad" mother boards went for a buck.
> I think I changed the caps. on about 12 motherboards.
> Sold them at a big savings for the local folks as well as upgrading my shop 
> :-)
>

>
> Morning all
> 
> I thought I'd post this warning about new technology as I spent hours yesterday searching for the answer. Last week I took posession of a few more PianoSoft Plus disks from the US. I never use original disks - always a copy and mostly from the hard drive attached to the Disklavier, using YAMPlayer.
> 
> The problem - I have recently upgraded my workhorse desktop and no longer have a floppy drive inbuilt; I use a USB floppy which I transfer from PC to Notebook etc. To my horror I found that whilst I could boot from a DOS disk and load dkvcopy from the USB floppy, the program wouldn't recognise the PianoSoft disk in the floppy drive. Looking on Carol's website I came across a few other programs - riparoot for DOS and rootaripper for XP from the command window. Neither program worked with the USB floppy.
> 
> Solution - in a friend's office this morning, I used his old XP with in-built floppy drive - and low and behold, immediate sucess with all of the above programs! I appears that the USB drive is not recognised by the operating system even though I can boot from that drive, copy files and so forth. This is quite a worrying thing as most notebooks from about 2000 onwards don't have an inbuilt floppy drive, and most desktop motherboards don't contain a IDE output for floppy drives any more (note that to drive a floppy the IDE output is 32 pins, and IDE hard drives have 40 pin sockets - which are often present beside SATA sockets).
> 
> You may not need to copy/backup PianoSoft files very often but be warned you need a floppy drive which runs directly off the motherboard. I'll put in some more research but I don't think there is a simple answer - other than keeping an old legacy sytem.
> 
> Cheers
> Ken
>

>
> Your last sentience says it all.
> I have always and will always keep an older system running WIN-ME with a bare minimum of utilities. It has 1 CDRW and one DVDRW as well as a 3 1/2 inch floppy drive. 
> As time goes on you will find there are a lot of things that the latest and greatest will not (allow) you to do.
> With ME you can always drop to DOS as well.
> All this costs now is a little space as the "resale value" of a system that old is $0.00
> Kindest regards
> Frank
> Frank & Gean Evans
> www.hfevans.com
> www.mcatos.org
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: kenmortgages 
>   To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:08 PM
>   Subject: [disklavier] Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology
> 
> 
>     
>   Morning all
> 
>   I thought I'd post this warning about new technology as I spent hours yesterday searching for the answer. Last week I took posession of a few more PianoSoft Plus disks from the US. I never use original disks - always a copy and mostly from the hard drive attached to the Disklavier, using YAMPlayer.
> 
>   The problem - I have recently upgraded my workhorse desktop and no longer have a floppy drive inbuilt; I use a USB floppy which I transfer from PC to Notebook etc. To my horror I found that whilst I could boot from a DOS disk and load dkvcopy from the USB floppy, the program wouldn't recognise the PianoSoft disk in the floppy drive. Looking on Carol's website I came across a few other programs - riparoot for DOS and rootaripper for XP from the command window. Neither program worked with the USB floppy.
> 
>   Solution - in a friend's office this morning, I used his old XP with in-built floppy drive - and low and behold, immediate sucess with all of the above programs! I appears that the USB drive is not recognised by the operating system even though I can boot from that drive, copy files and so forth. This is quite a worrying thing as most notebooks from about 2000 onwards don't have an inbuilt floppy drive, and most desktop motherboards don't contain a IDE output for floppy drives any more (note that to drive a floppy the IDE output is 32 pins, and IDE hard drives have 40 pin sockets - which are often present beside SATA sockets).
> 
>   You may not need to copy/backup PianoSoft files very often but be warned you need a floppy drive which runs directly off the motherboard. I'll put in some more research but I don't think there is a simple answer - other than keeping an old legacy sytem.
> 
>   Cheers
>   Ken
>

>
> 
> 
> Strangely enough - the PC I borrowed this morning was a Dell - cheap office model. The only problem with Dell in Australia is that they are made with a lot of non-standard parts. Power supply failure is a real problem I've had with clients, as are video card problems. I'm going to scrounge one off eBay as a back-up however.
> 
> Ken
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Frank & Gean Evans" <evans@> wrote:
> >
> > I absolutely agree. The Dells have another "good feature". From a full 
> > format you do not have to activate WIN XP if you use a Dell XP disk. Saves a 
> > lot of time.
> > I have just recently disposed of a bunch of the GX270-280s when the local 
> > Comm. Col. had an auction. The working ones went for $5.00 - $10.00 and the 
> > ones that had "bad" mother boards went for a buck.
> > I think I changed the caps. on about 12 motherboards.
> > Sold them at a big savings for the local folks as well as upgrading my shop 
> > :-)
> >
>

From: "kenmortgages" <kenmortgages@...>
To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:58 PM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology


>
>
> Strangely enough - the PC I borrowed this morning was a Dell - cheap office 
> model. The only problem with Dell in Australia is that they are made with a 
> lot of non-standard parts. Power supply failure is a real problem I've had 
> with clients, as are video card problems. I'm going to scrounge one off eBay 
> as a back-up however.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Frank & Gean Evans" <evans@...> wrote:
>>
>> I absolutely agree. The Dells have another "good feature". From a full
>> format you do not have to activate WIN XP if you use a Dell XP disk. Saves a
>> lot of time.
>> I have just recently disposed of a bunch of the GX270-280s when the local
>> Comm. Col. had an auction. The working ones went for $5.00 - $10.00 and the
>> ones that had "bad" mother boards went for a buck.
>> I think I changed the caps. on about 12 motherboards.
>> Sold them at a big savings for the local folks as well as upgrading my shop
>> :-)
>>
>
>
>
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>
> Hello,
> 
> Forgive me, because I know this questions must have been asked before, but how do I copy .fil files onto a CD and play it back on my Mark III? I read that I need to put them in a folder on the CD but nothing happens when I try and play them on the piano. Is it that the CD will only play MIDI files and that I have to convert .fil files first?
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> --George
>

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Hi

I do not know for sure but I DO know that Yamaha ONLY expects to find .fil files on a floppy. I know I cannot play .fil files from a USB stick of MMC card.
I converted all mine to midi and they worked fine, both from USB and MMC card.

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, George Husson wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Forgive me, because I know this questions must have been asked before, but how do I copy .fil files onto a CD and play it back on my Mark III? I read that I need to put them in a folder on the CD but nothing happens when I try and play them on the piano. Is it that the CD will only play MIDI files and that I have to convert .fil files first?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> --George
>

----- Original Message -----

From: George Husson

To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:26 PM

Subject: [disklavier] Is it possible to put .fil files on a CD

Hello,

Forgive me, because I know this questions must have been asked before, but how do I copy .fil files onto a CD and play it back on my Mark III? I read that I need to put them in a folder on the CD but nothing happens when I try and play them on the piano. Is it that the CD will only play MIDI files and that I have to convert .fil files first?

Thanks for the help.

--George

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>
> I just copied a bunch .fil files onto a flash drive and they played fine on my D4. 
> 
> How did you convert your .fil files to MIDI files?
> 
> Shelley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: david962548 <magic_midi@...>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:28:02 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Is it possible to put .fil files on a CD
> 
> Hi
> 
> I do not know for sure but I DO know that Yamaha ONLY expects to find .fil files on a floppy.  I know I cannot play .fil files from a USB stick of MMC card.
> I converted all mine to midi and they worked fine, both from USB and MMC card.
> 
> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, George Husson <georganist@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Forgive me, because I know this questions must have been asked before, but how do I copy .fil files onto a CD and play it back on my Mark III? I read that I need to put them in a folder on the CD but nothing happens when I try and play them on the piano. Is it that the CD will only play MIDI files and that I have to convert .fil files first?
> > 
> > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > --George
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:35 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology

 

  

Oh brother, I just spent several hundred $ with Yamahamusicsoft.com on their holiday sale on SmartPianosoft albums and can't backup or even see any of the floppy disks that arrived this week.  Riparoot and rootaripper of course don't work with Win 7 or Win 8.  I should not have junked my old cruddy old XP desktop!!  Does ANYONE have a new version of rootaripper or any utility that will allow for accessing this expensive (maybe useless ) pile of floppies?  

DKC-850 with Yam floppy drive.  

Thanks

From:  "kassey22000@hotmail.com [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 4:34 PM
To:  <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  [disklavier] Re: Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology

 
 
 
 
   

Oh brother, I just spent several hundred $ with Yamahamusicsoft.com on 
their holiday sale on SmartPianosoft albums and can't backup or even see 
any of the floppy disks that arrived this week.  Riparoot and rootaripper 
of course don't work with Win 7 or Win 8.  I should not have junked my old 
cruddy old XP desktop!!  Does ANYONE have a new version of rootaripper or 
any utility that will allow for accessing this expensive (maybe useless ) 
pile of floppies?  

DKC-850 with Yam floppy drive.  

Thanks

> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:40, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@gmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Let's see if we can figure this out.
> 
> - can you play the floppy disk from the Yamaha FD connected to the DKC-850?
> 
> If so, it should copy just fine into the internal memory of the DKC-850.
> 
> If cannot play the the floppy itself, you may have received the file as a compressed (psx?) file. 
> 
> Do you see anything on the floppy when you connect the drive to a computer?
> 
> New Disklavier stuff? I haven't heard of anything, but NAMM is coming up:-))
> 
> Bill
> 
>  iPhone
> 
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:22 PM, kassey22000@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Bill and Happy New Year,  I actually tried that.  1st I tried to copy the SmartPianosoft floppy to the DKC-850 memory with the YAM USB floppy drive and came up with the copy protection error.  Then tried using DKMKIIxg head unit with floppy to make a disk copy for back-up and same error.  Works perfect for songs I have on floppies, not on the disks purchased directly from Yamaha Musicsoft online store. 
> 
> 
> 
> PS- let us know if there any new cool Disklavier announcements/products at NAMM. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Keith 
> 
>

> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:40, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Let's see if we can figure this out.
> 
> - can you play the floppy disk from the Yamaha FD connected to the DKC-850?
> 
> If so, it should copy just fine into the internal memory of the DKC-850.
> 
> If cannot play the the floppy itself, you may have received the file as a compressed (psx?) file. 
> 
> Do you see anything on the floppy when you connect the drive to a computer?
> 
> New Disklavier stuff? I haven't heard of anything, but NAMM is coming up:-))
> 
> Bill
> 
>  iPhone
> 
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:22 PM, kassey22000@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Bill and Happy New Year,  I actually tried that.  1st I tried to copy the SmartPianosoft floppy to the DKC-850 memory with the YAM USB floppy drive and came up with the copy protection error.  Then tried using DKMKIIxg head unit with floppy to make a disk copy for back-up and same error.  Works perfect for songs I have on floppies, not on the disks purchased directly from Yamaha Musicsoft online store. 
> 
> 
> 
> PS- let us know if there any new cool Disklavier announcements/products at NAMM. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Keith

> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:51, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donal,
> 
> Happy New Year!
> 
> I haven't heard if DisklavierTV is coming to Europe. I will find out for you at NAMM in a couple of weeks and let you know!
> 
> Bill
> 
>  iPhone
> 
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Donal Galvin discodonal@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I hear Disklavier TV is coming to Ireland? Can you confirm Bill?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:40, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>> Let's see if we can figure this out.
>> 
>> - can you play the floppy disk from the Yamaha FD connected to the DKC-850?
>> 
>> If so, it should copy just fine into the internal memory of the DKC-850.
>> 
>> If cannot play the the floppy itself, you may have received the file as a compressed (psx?) file. 
>> 
>> Do you see anything on the floppy when you connect the drive to a computer?
>> 
>> New Disklavier stuff? I haven't heard of anything, but NAMM is coming up:-))
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:22 PM, kassey22000@hotmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Hi Bill and Happy New Year,  I actually tried that.  1st I tried to copy the SmartPianosoft floppy to the DKC-850 memory with the YAM USB floppy drive and came up with the copy protection error.  Then tried using DKMKIIxg head unit with floppy to make a disk copy for back-up and same error.  Works perfect for songs I have on floppies, not on the disks purchased directly from Yamaha Musicsoft online store. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> PS- let us know if there any new cool Disklavier announcements/products at NAMM. 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Keith
> 
>

> On 10 Jan 2015, at 23:11, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I remember seeing a post from someone saying he was using Bluetooth with Disklavier, but I believe they are mistaken. I have not heard any discussions that it is currently available or will be in the future.
> 
> Bill
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Donal Galvin discodonal@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> What's the story with Bluetooth ? It's not on my piano or anybody else's either <emoji_u1f340.png>
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:51, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hi Donal,
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year!
>>> 
>>> I haven't heard if DisklavierTV is coming to Europe. I will find out for you at NAMM in a couple of weeks and let you know!
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>  iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Donal Galvin discodonal@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I hear Disklavier TV is coming to Ireland? Can you confirm Bill?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:40, Bill Brandom bill.brandom03@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>> 
>>>> Let's see if we can figure this out.
>>>> 
>>>> - can you play the floppy disk from the Yamaha FD connected to the DKC-850?
>>>> 
>>>> If so, it should copy just fine into the internal memory of the DKC-850.
>>>> 
>>>> If cannot play the the floppy itself, you may have received the file as a compressed (psx?) file. 
>>>> 
>>>> Do you see anything on the floppy when you connect the drive to a computer?
>>>> 
>>>> New Disklavier stuff? I haven't heard of anything, but NAMM is coming up:-))
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>>  iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:22 PM, kassey22000@hotmail.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Bill and Happy New Year,  I actually tried that.  1st I tried to copy the SmartPianosoft floppy to the DKC-850 memory with the YAM USB floppy drive and came up with the copy protection error.  Then tried using DKMKIIxg head unit with floppy to make a disk copy for back-up and same error.  Works perfect for songs I have on floppies, not on the disks purchased directly from Yamaha Musicsoft online store.  
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>>>> PS- let us know if there any new cool Disklavier announcements/products at NAMM. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
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On 01/10/2015 03:34 PM, kassey22000@... [disklavier] wrote:
>
> Oh brother, I just spent several hundred $ with Yamahamusicsoft.com on 
> their holiday sale on SmartPianosoft albums and can't backup or even 
> see any of the floppy disks that arrived this week.  Riparoot and 
> rootaripper of course don't work with Win 7 or Win 8.  I should not 
> have junked my old cruddy old XP desktop!! Does ANYONE have a new 
> version of rootaripper or any utility that will allow for accessing 
> this expensive (maybe useless ) pile of floppies?
>
> DKC-850 with Yam floppy drive.
>

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 6:51 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Re: Disc Copying - and Obsolete Technology

 

  

I'd imagine that using a USB floppy drive with riparoot might be problematic too.

 

On 11 January 2015 at 02:48, Mark Fontana mark@... <mailto:mark@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

 


These programs still run OK in Windows 7 and 8.x.

Try right-clicking on rootaripper.exe and selecting "Run as Administrator".  This ensures that the software has elevated privileges to access the disk at a low level.   If it still doens't work, it's possible that anti-virus software may be interfering.


On 01/10/2015 03:34 PM, kassey22000@... <mailto:kassey22000@...>  [disklavier] wrote:

  

Oh brother, I just spent several hundred $ with Yamahamusicsoft.com on their holiday sale on SmartPianosoft albums and can't backup or even see any of the floppy disks that arrived this week.  Riparoot and rootaripper of course don't work with Win 7 or Win 8.  I should not have junked my old cruddy old XP desktop!!  Does ANYONE have a new version of rootaripper or any utility that will allow for accessing this expensive (maybe useless ) pile of floppies?  

DKC-850 with Yam floppy drive.

> On Jan 12, 2015, at 3:23 PM, kassey22000@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jon, that's great news.  I'm now guessing that it's the YAM USB floppy drive that isn't allowing me to back-up my albums to my home server (reads all regular floppies with midi files, just not some Smart Pianosoft floppies) I'm ordering a  new drive on Amazon today and will test this out.
> 
> 
> 
> One really excellent feature of the MarkIV, DKC-850, E3 models is the ability to play Smart Pianosoft music with the associated commercial CD.  Having the piano accompany favorite artists/albums makes the Disklavier really shine.  Having those files (.mid & .wav) files synced into one .wav (wave) file using the MID2PianoCD program played from a laptop/PC/home server/iWhatever to the piano with the iPhone/iPad Disklavier app (or the DKVBrowser program) is truly marvelous! 
> 
> 
> 
> Buying the Smart Pianosoft albums through Yamahamusicsoft.com in download format let's you accomplish this easily and avoids the silly (and delicate) floppy disks.  However, many titles from Yamaha, Hal Lenoard, Sheetmusicplus (or eBay/Amazon) are still on 1980's style 3.5 floppy disks.  For some reason (probably outdated notions of media copyright protection) the floppies can ONLY be backed up to the memory on these pianos and not directly copied to another floppy for safe keeping or to extract the .mid (midi) files for the process mentioned above.  I hope Yamaha and their distributors will take a page from Apple et al and let people use the music they purchase they way they want then provide more titles/albums via download from their sales websites. 
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> 
> 
> After all the more albums/titles/songs made available the more people will love these amazing instruments and the more Disklaviers Yamaha will ultimately sell. 
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> 
> 
> Thanks once again to the originators of this fantastic forum and to all of those who participate making it the one of the most relevant resources for Disklavier owners, dealers, and technicians    
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