Disklavier

A plea for help! The problem: piano with Disklavier DKC100R will not play a song coming from Finale 2011.  Some background: I'm new to the midi process, but have done considerable homework.  Here's what I've done to solve the problem:  purchased a midi interface (Cakewalk by Roland UM-1G) installed drivers, connected the UM-1G to the MacBook Pro laptop and to the disklavier DKC 100R, performed a midi test (pushed the test button on side of UM-1G unit and the piano played a note).  Referred to the Yamaha Advanced Operation Manual (disklavier II) Chapter 15 pg 97, "Using the Disklavier Piano with a MIDI Sequencer" performed steps 1-9 in Disklavier control unit DKC100R.  In Finale 2011 > Midi/Audio > Device Setup > Midi/Internal Speaker Setup with the following: Midi System - CoreMidi, Playback - Midi System, Input - UM-1G, Output - UM-1G, Receive Midi Sync From - UM-1G, Send Midi Sync To - UM-1G. In Finale 2011 > Windows > Instrument List with the following: Staff 1 - Grand Piano - Channel 1, Staff 2 - Grand Piano - Channel 1. Mute None, No Solo.
With the above setup and connected to an electric keyboard (unrelated to the Disklavier and piano) the song plays, but for some reason I can't get the Disklavier settings and/or other combination of settings to facilitate play back on the piano.  I would greatly appreciate any advice that could be provided - I'm at the end of my rope.  Leon

Good evening, everyone.

Leon, you need to think of the Disklavier as a MIDI device that has a split personality: it is both a piano and a tone generator. When you send MIDI data to the Disklavier, the Disklavier has to decide whether to play the data with the piano or with its internal or external tone generator.

To make the incoming data play on the piano, you need to access the MIDI : Piano Part screen and set the Disklavier's Piano Receive channel. In the simplest situation, set the Receive Channel to 1.

Having set the piano's Receive Channel to 1, you need to look at your settings in Finale and set the MIDI Output of the piano part to MIDI channel 1. It appears as though you have set Finale to send the piano part on Channel 1. Have you set the Disklavier to receive on Channel 1?

Regards,
PianoBench

www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com

On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:45 PM, lbwpeach wrote:

> A plea for help! The problem: piano with Disklavier DKC100R will not play a song coming from Finale 2011. Some background: I'm new to the midi process, but have done considerable homework. Here's what I've done to solve the problem: purchased a midi interface (Cakewalk by Roland UM-1G) installed drivers, connected the UM-1G to the MacBook Pro laptop and to the disklavier DKC 100R, performed a midi test (pushed the test button on side of UM-1G unit and the piano played a note). Referred to the Yamaha Advanced Operation Manual (disklavier II) Chapter 15 pg 97, "Using the Disklavier Piano with a MIDI Sequencer" performed steps 1-9 in Disklavier control unit DKC100R. In Finale 2011 > Midi/Audio > Device Setup > Midi/Internal Speaker Setup with the following: Midi System - CoreMidi, Playback - Midi System, Input - UM-1G, Output - UM-1G, Receive Midi Sync From - UM-1G, Send Midi Sync To - UM-1G. In Finale 2011 > Windows > Instrument List with the following: Staff 1 - Grand Piano - Channel 1, Staff 2 - Grand Piano - Channel 1. Mute None, No Solo.
> With the above setup and connected to an electric keyboard (unrelated to the Disklavier and piano) the song plays, but for some reason I can't get the Disklavier settings and/or other combination of settings to facilitate play back on the piano. I would greatly appreciate any advice that could be provided - I'm at the end of my rope. Leon
>

George, Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! It worked! I'm able to play the piano 
through my computer (Finale 2011) via the midi interface to the Disklavier.  As 
you suggested the channels must be set the same on both sides - at the 
disklavier midi in = 01 or HP ("That is, piano keyboard data is received on MIDI 
channel 1 and continuous pedal data (half pedal) is received on MIDI channel 3") 
[quote from Advanced Operation Manual] and set the MIDI Output of the piano part 
to MIDI channel 1.  I had thought I'd done so, but double checked setting, reset 
and it worked!  Thanks again.  In my original plea for help I detailed several 
settings which I had set that had nothing to do with getting the piano to play. 
 Being the rookie that I am I learned a few things (I mention this only for 
someone who may be as new to the MIDI process) 1.  In Finale > MIDI/Audio > 
"Play Through MIDI" and "Play Thru" mean two completely different things. 2. 
Finale is considered a quasi-sequencer and 3.  We're lucky to have a forum of 
people willing to share their time and expertise. Leon



________________________________
From: George F. Litterst <PianoBench@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 9:10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKC100R midi interface to Mac

  
Good evening, everyone.

Leon, you need to think of the Disklavier as a MIDI device that has a split 
personality: it is both a piano and a tone generator. When you send MIDI data to 
the Disklavier, the Disklavier has to decide whether to play the data with the 
piano or with its internal or external tone generator.

To make the incoming data play on the piano, you need to access the MIDI : Piano 
Part screen and set the Disklavier's Piano Receive channel. In the simplest 
situation, set the Receive Channel to 1.

Having set the piano's Receive Channel to 1, you need to look at your settings 
in Finale and set the MIDI Output of the piano part to MIDI channel 1. It 
appears as though you have set Finale to send the piano part on Channel 1. Have 
you set the Disklavier to receive on Channel 1?

Regards,
PianoBench


www.georgelitterst.com
www.timewarptech.com 

On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:45 PM, lbwpeach wrote:

  
>A plea for help! The problem: piano with Disklavier DKC100R will not play a song 
>coming from Finale 2011.  Some background: I'm new to the midi process, but have 
>done considerable homework.  Here's what I've done to solve the problem:  
>purchased a midi interface (Cakewalk by Roland UM-1G) installed drivers, 
>connected the UM-1G to the MacBook Pro laptop and to the disklavier DKC 100R, 
>performed a midi test (pushed the test button on side of UM-1G unit and the 
>piano played a note).  Referred to the Yamaha Advanced Operation Manual 
>(disklavier II) Chapter 15 pg 97, "Using the Disklavier Piano with a MIDI 
>Sequencer" performed steps 1-9 in Disklavier control unit DKC100R.  In Finale 
>2011 > Midi/Audio > Device Setup > Midi/Internal Speaker Setup with the 
>following: Midi System - CoreMidi, Playback - Midi System, Input - UM-1G, Output 
>- UM-1G, Receive Midi Sync From - UM-1G, Send Midi Sync To - UM-1G. In Finale 
>2011 > Windows > Instrument List with   the following: Staff 1 - Grand Piano - 
>Channel 1, Staff 2 - Grand Piano - Channel 1. Mute None, No Solo.
>With the above setup and connected to an electric keyboard (unrelated to the 
>Disklavier and piano) the song plays, but for some reason I can't get the 
>Disklavier settings and/or other combination of settings to facilitate play back 
>on the piano.  I would greatly appreciate any advice that could be provided - 
>I'm at the end of my rope.  Leon
>