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Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by Welton Barker

Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page: 
http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter

$849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.

Re: [dotcomformat] Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by Ross Totino

Keep in mind this module does not have any CV inputs. Also, I think series 500 modules are smaller than 5U?
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Welton Barker <weltonb@pobox.com> wrote:

Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page:
http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter

$849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.


Re: Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by Welton Barker

Forgive my woeful ignorance, but if it doesn't take CV, then what's the point of it? Is this another Moogerfooger? I've only been dabbling in modules for a couple of years now, and I'm more of a musician than an engineer. Plus, I'm getting really old, and I just want things to work. What's Moog's vision for this thing?

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ross Totino <Rtotino@...> wrote:
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> Keep in mind this module does not have any CV inputs. Also, I think series
> 500 modules are smaller than 5U?
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> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Welton Barker <weltonb@...> wrote:
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> > Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format
> > powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want
> > one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page:
> > http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter
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> > $849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.
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Re: [dotcomformat] Re: Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by Christopher Winkels

It fits in the API 500 "lunchbox" format. This is a system usually found in higher end studios; though one is typically more likely to find a preamp, EQ, or compressor module in an API rack than a proper synthesizer module. In that sense it's a different use of the term "modular' than we'd typically bandy about here.

Other folks have strongly argued that Moog is exploiting a hole in the API market by offering a product where previously there had been none. In the modular synth market there are any number of Moog-ish clones, so perhaps there's a point to this. These are people who are prepared to pay $1,000 for an API-format mic preamp so an $800 filter won't make them flinch (much). As much as I think it's a slightly daft product the margins are probably fantastic. They probably will make as much profit selling one of these as they would on 400 copies of the Animoog app.

I've got a perfectly good Q150 for an affordable version of the Moog filter in 5U, and if I ever feel flush I'll spring for a Macbeth Mk.1 Filter A, so it's not like there's a dearth of Moog-like options already out there.


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On 22 October 2011 08:58, Welton Barker <weltonb@pobox.com> wrote:

Forgive my woeful ignorance, but if it doesn't take CV, then what's the point of it? Is this another Moogerfooger? I've only been dabbling in modules for a couple of years now, and I'm more of a musician than an engineer. Plus, I'm getting really old, and I just want things to work. What's Moog's vision for this thing?



--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, Ross Totino wrote:
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> Keep in mind this module does not have any CV inputs. Also, I think series
> 500 modules are smaller than 5U?
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Welton Barker wrote:
>
> > **

> >
> >
> > Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format
> > powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want
> > one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page:
> > http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter
> >
> > $849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.
> >
> >
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RE: [dotcomformat] Re: Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by John Hammaren

I would say, that since it is in the 500-series module format it is geared more for studio environments and setups with 500-series racks/power supplies. This is not DotCom format. The price is commensurate with other stuff in that format. Very pricey, but undoubtedly something you could pass on to your great grandchildren.

From: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Welton Barker
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:58 AM
To: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dotcomformat] Re: Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter



Forgive my woeful ignorance, but if it doesn't take CV, then what's the point of it? Is this another Moogerfooger? I've only been dabbling in modules for a couple of years now, and I'm more of a musician than an engineer. Plus, I'm getting really old, and I just want things to work. What's Moog's vision for this thing?

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com<mailto:dotcomformat%40yahoogroups.com>, Ross Totino <Rtotino@...> wrote:
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> Keep in mind this module does not have any CV inputs. Also, I think series
> 500 modules are smaller than 5U?
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Welton Barker <weltonb@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format
> > powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want
> > one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page:
> > http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter
> >
> > $849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.
> >
> >
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Q150 Filter Calibration Points to customize the filter

2011-10-22 by william Beith

Can anyone on the list talk about using the calibration points on a Q150 as a means of "customizing" the sound of the filter.
I have used the filter calibration points in my Mini Moog (circa 1974) to alter the over all characteristics of that instrument and wondered if the same applied to the Q150.
I would be interested if anyone has multiples of the Q150 with different calibrations to create different sounding filters.
Thanks
Bill

RE: [dotcomformat] Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-22 by John L Rice

I'm pretty sure it won't work off of any known modular synth power supply.
Off the top of my head, API style 500 racks and modules use +-24v.

John L Rice

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> Subject: [dotcomformat] Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter
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> Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format
> powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda
want
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> one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page:
> http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter
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> $849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.
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Re: Moog 500 Series Ladder Filter

2011-10-23 by Doug

I saw it in person at the AES show in NYC yesterday.  It's very solidly built and really pretty.

I haven't been to an AES show in probably 30+ years and have been away fromm the recording side of things just as long, so I needed to ask some pretty dumb questions.  I didn't know about the 500 Series format / Lunchbox etc until yesterday.  As was said, this is not a VC filter for synths, but rather Moogs entre into the professional studio market.  I think they'll do fine with them.  If I had a studio and the resources, I'd have one or two of them for some pretty funky stereo signal processing mojo.

--- In dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com, "Welton Barker" <weltonb@...> wrote:
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> Anyone know if this new filter of Moog's will run off of a Dotcom format powered cabinet? They may be ridiculously expensive, but I still kinda want one. For those of you who haven't seen it, here's the Moog page: 
> http://moogmusic.com/products/500-series/500-series-ladder-filter
> 
> $849 list, but most places are advertising $769 for its December release.
>

Re: [dotcomformat] Q150 Filter Calibration Points to customize the filter

2011-10-23 by Alfonso Alba


Well, for starters, you may want to try different settings for the "12db" output. You can change it to 6db and 18db with a couple jumpers on the back.

Then you might want to switch (with another jumper) between the "auto level" and "normal" settings.

Another great trick that changes the filter's tone consists in feeding the output of the filter back to itself (through the second input). This overdrives and adds some growl to the sound.

More details on the Q150 data sheet:


Good luck!

De: william Beith
Para: dotcomformat@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: Sábado, 22 de octubre, 2011 9:31:58
Asunto: [dotcomformat] Q150 Filter Calibration Points to customize the filter



Can anyone on the list talk about using the calibration points on a Q150 as a means of "customizing" the sound of the filter.
I have used the filter calibration points in my Mini Moog (circa 1974) to alter the over all characteristics of that instrument and wondered if the same applied to the Q150.
I would be interested if anyone has multiples of the Q150 with different calibrations to create different sounding filters.
Thanks
Bill




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