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Re: thoughts on control voltage delay

2008-07-22 by ~Morbius~

I'll second that. It will lock it tight in sync. But... it is constantly looking at two 'taps' to set the sync-point... and even pulling or patching a patchcord tied to it's 'tap input' will confuse it, thinking (so to speak) that the noise was something it's supposed to count. (Not really an issue... just saying).
One thing about the 'tap tempo'.... (the one drawback is that it won't allow the user to offset that tempo any. I find that very oten, it's too perfect... that you get better effects by the tempo NOT being in perfect sync, but rather, slightly out of sync. And the best way... IMO... is to listen to the slapback, balancing the tempo of the sound(s) rhythm, against the tempo of the delay... and offsetting the two.
I've 'wondered' from the original point... but, when one tries to sync any type of delay... it's pretty much the same factor. This is one case where perfect sync may not be desirable... but rather, an offset of perfect sync, or slightly faster or slower... but listening to the result to set the timing.
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At 03:24 PM 7/21/2008, jonahrust wrote:

>wondering how the club of the knobs delay stacks up to the moog delay
>pedal.. also i would welcome any thoughts on other control voltage
>delay effects. thanks in advance.
>
>Jonah

Voltage-controlled analog delays (Blacet, Moog, etc.) provide a CV
input for delay time, but some digital delays offer another cool
option: tap tempo. You may not think of it as "voltage control," but
the Tap Tempo input on Boss delays (and surely others) will respond
to a modular's pulse or square waves. Think of it as a way to "hard
sync" the delay to a clock.

John

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Re: [dotcomformat] Re: thoughts on control voltage delay

2008-07-22 by John Mahoney

At 12:42 PM 7/22/2008, ~Morbius~ wrote:
>I'll second that. It will lock it tight in sync. But... it is 
>constantly looking at two 'taps' to set the sync-point... and even 
>pulling or patching a patchcord tied to it's 'tap input' will 
>confuse it, thinking (so to speak) that the noise was something it's 
>supposed to count. (Not really an issue...  just saying).

Excellent points.


>One thing about the 'tap tempo'.... (the one drawback  is that it 
>won't allow the user to offset that tempo any. I find that very 
>oten, it's too perfect...  that you get better effects by the tempo 
>NOT being in perfect sync, but rather, slightly out of sync. And the 
>best way... IMO... is to listen to the slapback, balancing the tempo 
>of the sound(s) rhythm, against the tempo of the delay... and 
>offsetting the two.

[In mock horror] You do it... by... ear?!!!   ;-)

For a repeat that is behind the beat by a set amount, you can use a 
gate delay. (Delay the signal going to the tap tempo input.)


>I've 'wondered' from the original point...  but, when one tries to 
>sync any type of delay... it's pretty much the same factor. This is 
>one case where perfect sync may not be desirable...  but rather, an 
>offset of perfect sync, or slightly faster or slower... but 
>listening to the result to set the timing.

Wandering is fun!

John

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