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[elektron] Re: Machinedrum and Cubase

2005-07-08 by drammy2004

Thanks for the input Justin,

The thing is my recordings are slightly different to what you are 
talking about - a 4/4 kick pattern - the first kick may be 300 
samples before the beat, the second could be 120 samples after the 
next could be bang on the beat and the last could be 300 samples 
after the beat.

I agree with you that if the kicks were all in time I could just cut 
the start off / add some silence in and everything would be fine but 
I am not will to go through and do this for every beat.

Have you actually checked the rest of your beats, fair enough the 
first one is off but can you be certain the rest aren't how I've just 
described?


Just to reiterate - I don't believe this is an issue with the MD, I 
believe it is an issue with computers poor latency (in comparison to 
HW sequencers) and Cubase's inability to sync to an incoming MIDI 
clock.


Drammy


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
<grimley@i...> wrote:
> New to the group and this discussion but just like to chime in that 
I 
> have always had about a 300 sample offset when bouncing audio 
tracks 
> down from a midi source or clock synced source in Cubase SX 1, 2 
and 3.
> This is using various computers and sound cards (and 
synths/samplers)
> I'm now using a p4 2.4, ASUS P4PE, Midex8, RME HDSP 9652 and 
Behringer 
> ADA8000 converters with the same problem.
> Steinberg are supposed to have a maintenace release of SX3 this 
summer 
> which addresses this issue, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Also, 
we 
> are only talking about 7ms here (with a 44.1 project) and there is 
> always going to be latency in the hardware (MachineDrum, 
MonoMachine 
> whatever) between the midi interface sending the note on message 
and 
> the hardware generating a sound.  I'm very used to chopping off the 
> first 300 samples of my recordings now.
> -grimley
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "dougvarn" <dougvarn@y...> 
> wrote:
> > hmmm...it is kind of shot in the dark.  Drammy, did you say what 
> > version of Cubase you were using?
> > 
> > i will say that, and pardon me, i do need to investigate futher, 
> that 
> > when i went in and adjusted the recording offset under "expert" 
> > settings, that while it did help the small latency, i did now 
notice 
> > that the MD was now like you described, sometimes a smidgen 
before 
> and 
> > after the beat.  with this setting set to zero, i swear i saw 
only a 
> > small amount of after the beats...i figure this maybe noteworthy
> > 
> > i will experiment some more...Drammy, how did you measure 
your "off 
> > the beat" count to roughly 200-300 samples?  i'd like to compare 
or 
> > better understand how much your recordings are off compared to 
mine.

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