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[elektron] Re: Machinedrum and Cubase

2005-07-08 by daniel_elektron

...if the timing is fluctuating you probably have a setup with bad
MIDI timing for your interface. Developing our turbo midi interface we
delved into the cause of getting bad MIDI clocks from WinXP compared
to Mac.

By following the tip in this post below and choosing 2 "non-emulated"
port we could get the Win XP to be just as tight as Mac. It applies to
Cubase just as Nuendo. It's quite interesting how Cubase on XP always
chooses the "emulated" port with 

http://www.jay.fm/blog/pc-midi-timing-and-nuendo.html

When we test MIDI timing we transform the clock data to audio (just a
cable) and check if the resluting tone is steady. It's horrifying
listening to the tone or looking at the FFT spectra of a Cubase/XP
setup without the fix applied, you can clearly hear that it's not
suitable for any kind of timing. 

To check the timing you could also use the Tempo screen of the Mono/MD
and see if it is fluctuating more than just a few tenths.

...even with the fix applied the MD and Mono clock is much more steady
though of course. :)

Daniel

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drammy2004" <martyn@r...> wrote:
> Thanks for the input Justin,
> 
> The thing is my recordings are slightly different to what you are 
> talking about - a 4/4 kick pattern - the first kick may be 300 
> samples before the beat, the second could be 120 samples after the 
> next could be bang on the beat and the last could be 300 samples 
> after the beat.
> 
> I agree with you that if the kicks were all in time I could just cut 
> the start off / add some silence in and everything would be fine but 
> I am not will to go through and do this for every beat.
> 
> Have you actually checked the rest of your beats, fair enough the 
> first one is off but can you be certain the rest aren't how I've just 
> described?
> 
> 
> Just to reiterate - I don't believe this is an issue with the MD, I 
> believe it is an issue with computers poor latency (in comparison to 
> HW sequencers) and Cubase's inability to sync to an incoming MIDI 
> clock.
> 
> 
> Drammy

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