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[elektron] Re: Machinedrum and Cubase

2005-07-08 by drammy2004

Thanks Daniel,

I remember reading that link somewhere before.

I don't use the emulated ports, I always place the ignoreportfilter 
into the Cubase folder.

I have just bought Cubase SX3 so will try the timestamp fix when it 
arrives and keep you updated.


Will let you know how I get on.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" 
<daniel@e...> wrote:
> 
> ...if the timing is fluctuating you probably have a setup with bad
> MIDI timing for your interface. Developing our turbo midi interface 
we
> delved into the cause of getting bad MIDI clocks from WinXP compared
> to Mac.
> 
> By following the tip in this post below and choosing 2 "non-
emulated"
> port we could get the Win XP to be just as tight as Mac. It applies 
to
> Cubase just as Nuendo. It's quite interesting how Cubase on XP 
always
> chooses the "emulated" port with 
> 
> http://www.jay.fm/blog/pc-midi-timing-and-nuendo.html
> 
> When we test MIDI timing we transform the clock data to audio (just 
a
> cable) and check if the resluting tone is steady. It's horrifying
> listening to the tone or looking at the FFT spectra of a Cubase/XP
> setup without the fix applied, you can clearly hear that it's not
> suitable for any kind of timing. 
> 
> To check the timing you could also use the Tempo screen of the 
Mono/MD
> and see if it is fluctuating more than just a few tenths.
> 
> ...even with the fix applied the MD and Mono clock is much more 
steady
> though of course. :)
> 
> Daniel
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "drammy2004" <martyn@r...> 
wrote:
> > Thanks for the input Justin,
> > 
> > The thing is my recordings are slightly different to what you are 
> > talking about - a 4/4 kick pattern - the first kick may be 300 
> > samples before the beat, the second could be 120 samples after 
the 
> > next could be bang on the beat and the last could be 300 samples 
> > after the beat.
> > 
> > I agree with you that if the kicks were all in time I could just 
cut 
> > the start off / add some silence in and everything would be fine 
but 
> > I am not will to go through and do this for every beat.
> > 
> > Have you actually checked the rest of your beats, fair enough the 
> > first one is off but can you be certain the rest aren't how I've 
just 
> > described?
> > 
> > 
> > Just to reiterate - I don't believe this is an issue with the MD, 
I 
> > believe it is an issue with computers poor latency (in comparison 
to 
> > HW sequencers) and Cubase's inability to sync to an incoming MIDI 
> > clock.
> > 
> > 
> > Drammy

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