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Re: [elektron] problems with the sound of the trx bd2

2006-07-20 by synthyscott

Hi Silvia,

I couldn't agree with you more.   I have the same opinions as you, but I also see the positive aspects of the Machinedrum because it is so nice for drum pattern creation and hands-on tweaking.

A few years ago, I posted some very similar complaints on the elektron-users website and emailed elektron directly, too.  Nobody took my complaints seriously.   Now you seem to have the exact same issues that I had - primarily, the double keystrokes, and the "danger" of pressing a wrong button live and switching the song/pattern/kit/etc by mistake.

My suggestion to get around these issues was to create a new "live performance" mode where the front panel controls for would be different than the normal modes (i.e. classic and extended), where frequent commands (i.e. mutes) would always be accessible and the "danger" keystrokes to load new patterns/modes/kits would be disabled or made intentionally more difficult to execute.

Scott


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Silvia Tubig 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] problems with the sound of the trx bd2



  --- daniel_elektron <daniel@...> schrieb:

  > Sometimes when reading forums you can get the
  > impressions there are
  > many bugs and problems with our gear, but I'd say
  > they are really
  > realiable, and we use them ourselves on stage like
  > so many others.
  > 

  I had 6 gigs now with the Md and 1 gig crashed by that
  songmode button, i havent had a song programmed...
  ok..thats a feature and no bug...but realiable has
  also something to do with easyness off handling... at
  least such "features" dont create the most reliable
  feeling... aswell that many operations that are
  essential to liveplaying are only accesible with
  double keystrokes that make one hand handling an
  unreliable thing...
  And i had 2 times weard things with the outputs
  happening... seems that a midiloop in clocking can
  bring the MD in a state of seeing out C as Out D or
  the other way around...
  Nothing i was able to repeat yet...just an idea...
  and Hanging notes on the midimachines on
  patternchages...

  Many people use the MD...but for stage use?..its
  rather a studio machine than a stage tool...
  At least it dont feels very reliable for me...at least
  not yet...
  Too many issues for 6 gigs.
  I am doing stage things with drummachines for 23 years
  now...so i have quite a few experiances with other
  products...
  The MD has many nice features...but also many strange
  handling arrangements... little things sometimes like
  that the song/pattern and global are sharing one
  button while Kit and songsettup share another...
  ok..no big thing... but i just mention it because its
  quite exemplaric how things are structured in the
  Md... It appears to be a work in progress box where
  many features have been added one after the other
  reaching a state where the controls are not optimal
  used anymore... But that is that waht i want from a
  drummachine on stage..
  Good working controls...spontanius access...reliable
  performance factor... That there is no return to the
  saved state of a pattern can be seen as a good
  sportsman attitude...but...
  A good sportsman attitude dont likes to press multiple
  buttons to deo a mute... and...sportsman or not..its
  often just what you want on stage to freak the thing
  up...do a break..and return to the initial theme...
  Ok..you can make copys of the patterns before..and go
  with a double keystrokee to another pattern page...
  But that is again not really the optimal solutioin for
  beeing spontanious on stage..or?
  I allready was thinking about an extra faderbox to
  remote the MD...but than we get to a point where the
  concept of a hardware drummachine gets a bit
  questionable... At least..the MD is versatile enough
  to allow such arrangements... In the studio its an
  allmost ideal drumcomputer...but...
  The only thing that makes the MD real nice on stage it
  is szise..
  With the other features i ask myself sometimes if
  stage use was intended at all..

  Sorry to say that... I still refused to sell it again
  because i like it somehow..But its defenetly the most
  problematic drummachine i had on stage yet... And this
  mainly because conceptional things than real bugs...





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