Elektron Musical Instruments

I think that quite a few users are not satisfied with
that but within the general hype and happiness about
the MD the are going over it and dont complain... 
ok...it\ufffds possible to get used to it... but it dont
helps the development when there are no critical
voices.
After 8 month with the box the access to the mute page
dont hurts anymore... but i still have to look twice
when i have to change a pattern...
this should have a better optical
identification..theese half blinking of the selected
pattern is somehow......lets say its weak..especially
when the lightguys try theire red light... 

There are also many undocumented features... 
I ve seen on the Elektron webpage that they plan to do
something in that direction.

S


--- synthyscott <synthysyzor@...> schrieb:

> Hi Silvia,
> 
> I couldn't agree with you more.   I have the same
> opinions as you, but I also see the positive aspects
> of the Machinedrum because it is so nice for drum
> pattern creation and hands-on tweaking.
> 
> A few years ago, I posted some very similar
> complaints on the elektron-users website and emailed
> elektron directly, too.  Nobody took my complaints
> seriously.   Now you seem to have the exact same
> issues that I had - primarily, the double
> keystrokes, and the "danger" of pressing a wrong
> button live and switching the song/pattern/kit/etc
> by mistake.
> 
> My suggestion to get around these issues was to
> create a new "live performance" mode where the front
> panel controls for would be different than the
> normal modes (i.e. classic and extended), where
> frequent commands (i.e. mutes) would always be
> accessible and the "danger" keystrokes to load new
> patterns/modes/kits would be disabled or made
> intentionally more difficult to execute.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Silvia Tubig 
>   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:20 PM
>   Subject: Re: [elektron] problems with the sound of
> the trx bd2
> 
> 
> 
>   --- daniel_elektron <daniel@...> schrieb:
> 
>   > Sometimes when reading forums you can get the
>   > impressions there are
>   > many bugs and problems with our gear, but I'd
> say
>   > they are really
>   > realiable, and we use them ourselves on stage
> like
>   > so many others.
>   > 
> 
>   I had 6 gigs now with the Md and 1 gig crashed by
> that
>   songmode button, i havent had a song programmed...
>   ok..thats a feature and no bug...but realiable has
>   also something to do with easyness off handling...
> at
>   least such "features" dont create the most
> reliable
>   feeling... aswell that many operations that are
>   essential to liveplaying are only accesible with
>   double keystrokes that make one hand handling an
>   unreliable thing...
>   And i had 2 times weard things with the outputs
>   happening... seems that a midiloop in clocking can
>   bring the MD in a state of seeing out C as Out D
> or
>   the other way around...
>   Nothing i was able to repeat yet...just an idea...
>   and Hanging notes on the midimachines on
>   patternchages...
> 
>   Many people use the MD...but for stage use?..its
>   rather a studio machine than a stage tool...
>   At least it dont feels very reliable for me...at
> least
>   not yet...
>   Too many issues for 6 gigs.
>   I am doing stage things with drummachines for 23
> years
>   now...so i have quite a few experiances with other
>   products...
>   The MD has many nice features...but also many
> strange
>   handling arrangements... little things sometimes
> like
>   that the song/pattern and global are sharing one
>   button while Kit and songsettup share another...
>   ok..no big thing... but i just mention it because
> its
>   quite exemplaric how things are structured in the
>   Md... It appears to be a work in progress box
> where
>   many features have been added one after the other
>   reaching a state where the controls are not
> optimal
>   used anymore... But that is that waht i want from
> a
>   drummachine on stage..
>   Good working controls...spontanius
> access...reliable
>   performance factor... That there is no return to
> the
>   saved state of a pattern can be seen as a good
>   sportsman attitude...but...
>   A good sportsman attitude dont likes to press
> multiple
>   buttons to deo a mute... and...sportsman or
> not..its
>   often just what you want on stage to freak the
> thing
>   up...do a break..and return to the initial
> theme...
>   Ok..you can make copys of the patterns before..and
> go
>   with a double keystrokee to another pattern
> page...
>   But that is again not really the optimal solutioin
> for
>   beeing spontanious on stage..or?
>   I allready was thinking about an extra faderbox to
>   remote the MD...but than we get to a point where
> the
>   concept of a hardware drummachine gets a bit
>   questionable... At least..the MD is versatile
> enough
>   to allow such arrangements... In the studio its an
>   allmost ideal drumcomputer...but...
>   The only thing that makes the MD real nice on
> stage it
>   is szise..
>   With the other features i ask myself sometimes if
>   stage use was intended at all..
> 
>   Sorry to say that... I still refused to sell it
> again
>   because i like it somehow..But its defenetly the
> most
>   problematic drummachine i had on stage yet... And
> this
>   mainly because conceptional things than real
> bugs...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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