Elektron Musical Instruments

its not that electribes sound really crap...
was a bit overpainted but they are not the machines
with the heaviest or cleanest sound out there...
They are defently nice drummachines.. good to
write..good user interface..fast copy and
safe...performant... i still have a ES-1 because i
like the dub delay that goes over all instruments more
than on the ESX models...
Biggest problem with them.. They are too late in
relation to others what makes them a bit difficult in
direct sync with other sequencers...


One good thing about the micro timing of the MD...i ve
a beat here running now for 2 hours... it defenetly
gets better as longer it runs ;-)
it has really a liquid quality how the instruments do
theier slight shifts...



--- Scott <synthysyzor@...> schrieb:

> Hey Silvia,
> 
> Later this year we may have another possible claim
> to the world's best drummachine - the BoomChick from
> Dave Smith.  It will be quite an interesting
> marriage between Mr. Machinedrum and Ms. BoomChick. 
> Or maybe you should arrange a threesome with your
> MPC.  ;-)
> 
> One note on your email - the reason the EMX and ESX
> Electribes "sound like crap" is a sneaky Korg fact
> (hey, Elektron's not the only ones...).  Many of the
> factory default drum samples are sampled at 32kHz,
> as are many of the other factory samples.  If you
> put 44.1kHz sound files in the ESX, you may be
> somewhat surprised at the good quality. 
> Furthermore, if you use the EMX's "synth parts" as
> simple drum parts, you can coax some extremely harsh
> digital noise out of that box that even makes the MD
> want to cover his inputs...
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Silvia Tubig 
>   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:15 PM
>   Subject: RE: [elektron] Elektron's timing
> "signature" (was Re: advice Monomachine and Machine
> Drum or Sp
> 
> 
> 
>   --- daniel_elektron <daniel@...> schrieb:
> 
>   The goal of
>   > the Machinedrum is to make the "worlds best drum
>   > machine" not to make
>   > the "worlds most versatile drum machine".
>   > 
> 
>   great..than do it...
>   I can claim that i ve worked intesiv with most of
> the
>   availible drum machines... 
>   The worlds best drummachine is yet to be born...
>   really...
> 
>   There are good things and bad things in all of
> them..
>   An 808 that could be brought to recordmode while
>   running would be close to perfection...
> 
>   the 32 step sequencer of the vermona DRM1 is a
> great
>   interface...
> 
>   the pads of an mpc allowe realtime input that
>   matters...
> 
>   The MD has a synthesis engine that opens the world
> of
>   dsp sounds for people that cant patch... it
> grooves..
> 
>   The handling is really fucking strange... Its much
>   better now with os 1.32 and above...but its not so
>   long ago that you couldnt copy a pattern without
>   loosing your sound tweaks when you just did the
> copy
>   without safing the kit before... autsch...
> 
>   sorry..that was not even close to the behavior i
>   expect from the worlds best drum machine...
>   Also that it cant be master clock while reciving
>   external sync is not really top of the pops...
>   However..as long its your goal to have the worlds
> best
>   drummachine you will get there..
>   I would like that ;-)...
> 
>   > ..and I know that people will hate me for that.
> :)
>   > But I'm very much
>   > of the belief that too many options and choices
>   > easily stand in the
>   > way of creativity. 
> 
>   To much menu stepping isnt good for creativity
>   either..sometimes user options are great... expert
>   functions like track offsets are essential on a
>   machine as the mpc ...to much functions in
> something
>   as simple as a drumcomputer? in relation to a daw
> it
>   never can get the pain level..
>   But i agree that features should make sense and it
>   should be a streamlined package... nord modular
> versus
>   reaktor is a good example...
>   But a certain level of complexity is possible..
>   Anyway..good features have higher impact with
> simple
>   usage..
>   I once asked for a perforamce song mode where you
> can
>   select songs as you select patterns... just press
> a
>   button and use songs as macro patterns...
>   New feature but in the endresult more simple to
> use
>   than selecting songs in a display menu...
>   Just an example...
>   The MD is not my drummachine with the highest
>   performance factor..
>   it has a good performance factor..but its not the
> best
>   of the world..
> 
>   electribes sound crap..but better performance
>   factor...808 ..cant do much..but much higher
>   performance factor..the fill button..wow..
> 
>   Mpc.. also not bad..similar to MD..
> 
>   Vermona... linndrum... 707...909...
>   just the exsitence of a dedicated volume knob for
> each
>   instrumnet creates a high performance factor...
> 
>   Pattern copy on the md while running... you
> allways
>   get a nasty gap..
>   there are machines that handel a pattern copy
> without
>   loosing output...
> 
>   Worlds best drummachine? one of the best..but
> still
>   can be improoved..
> 
>   > Another note on the guy that got that 120bpm on
> the
>   > Machinedrum
>   > doesn't agree with Protools 120bpm. This is
> actually
>   > the exact result
>   > we have got. 120bpm ran alongside Protools for
> hours
>   >
> 
>   That was me..and i wish the MD would have a
> timebase
>   like a pc..theese days the timebase of
>   cubase..logic...live--protools is the same..
>   on pc and apple..
>   this is pretty new... 7 years ago we had problems
>   there..but now its possible to work in free
>   sync..exept when you have hardware drummachines as
>   clockmaster..there is none that matches the PC
>   timebase... none... like usual an mpc 3000 gives
> you a
>   better 120 bpm as an electribe... but... free sync
> is
>   when you can go at least 3-5 minutes with no
> restart
>   need... 
> 
>   I really cant see how you managed to run in
> parralel
>   with a modern protools system for hours... but i
> ve
>   another MD here now..maybe the are different? i
> check
>   again.. 
>   But the MD i had before was clearly not running at
> the
>   same speed as protools , Live ,Logic
> 
>   > 
>   > What would be very interesting would be if
> people
>   > would do test tracks
>   > with different drum machines, and see if they
> enjoy
>   > the timing better
> 
>   Sure...we do that every day... i ve 5 drum sources
>   theese days..i had less in the past..and more in
> the
>   past i had much more...actually all of them in one
>   studio... the all behave different...run a 909 at
> 260
>   bpm and you get it shuffling like hell..
> 
>   The MD has a good groove..but an 808 that is 100%
>   tight has a good groove aswell..its the sound
> engine
>   that makes it swing..rather a decay and phase
> thing
>   ..but the envelope starts sample accurat in
> refference
> 
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