Elektron Musical Instruments

Yeah, I don't want to see a more modern qy700 made by elektron. The less it 
is like a computer the better. There is nothing wrong with a qy700 per se-in 
fact I have one myself-but once you get into the grid edit, add hard drives 
and all that nonsense it becomes like a cut-down version of cubase which 
does not really fit with the Elektron style or ethic, and becomes too 
complicated and time-consuming for somebody who wants the immediacy of a 
pattern sequencer to replace the fiddly operation of grid-edit sequencers 
such as th qy700. The sequencer described by Angus sounds like a good update 
to the qy concept and has many useful features but is too far from the 
original design of the pattern sequencer in the MnM or MD for an Ekektron 
product. Maybe you should send your suggestions to Yamaha?

  -Big Ed

>From: "puretokyo2002" <puretokyo@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone hardware sequencer
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 05:06:23 -0000
>
>
>These are great ideas and sound like a beautiful machine. However, once 
>not=
>ation
>editor, hard drive etc is added I think it has started to look like a 
>compu=
>ter. The joy of
>the Mono/MD sequencer is its immediacy... There is obviously a HUGE market 
>=
>gap
>right now for a pure hardware sequencer that takes the place of units like 
>=
>the QY700,
>RM1X, etc.
>
>As for features, one that I would really like is the ability to offset 
>indi=
>vidual notes
>separately. This would be a great boon.
>
>However, I genuinely believe Elektron could implement the hardware 
>sequence=
>r in a
>very similar fashion the Monomachine and using essentially the same 
>technol=
>ogy .
>
>Daniel and others, I certainly hope you guys seriously think about this - 
>I=
>'d buy it in a
>eye-blink.
>
>Angus.
>
> >
> >  This thread has captured most of the key control &
> > management specs I'd to see too.  I second those who
> > added
> >
> > \ufffd	32 Tracks Minimum
> > \ufffd	8 MIDI outs
> >
> > To which I'd add
> >
> > \ufffd	Stereo In / Out
> > \ufffd	1/480 Quarter Note Granularity
> > \ufffd	MD-solid MIDI sync & video time-code sync
> >
> > I'd like to throw out the following for Interface &
> > Interface-driven functionality:
> >
> > \ufffd	Multi-line interface capable of display at least 8
> > (preferably 16 tracks at once).
> > \ufffd	Color TFT Display, minimum 320 x 240 (640 x 480
> > better)
> > \ufffd	Navigation keys + multi-function dial for easy value
> > changes
> > \ufffd	Assignable knobs for real-time control
> > \ufffd	Joystick (great MnM idea \ufffd but instead of attached,
> > why not external for portability)
> > \ufffd	Full midi creation and editing on a track / pattern
> > basis \ufffd recording (step / performance), multi-track,
> > pattern, score & event editing, mute, copy, paste.
> > \ufffd	Ability to sequence pattern sets into songs (no hard
> > limit other than available memory / storage).
> >
> > And Connectivity:
> >
> > \ufffd	Compact Flash or Secure Digital Slot (preference for
> > CF)
> > \ufffd	Computer Connectivity \ufffd USB, 10-BaseT or integrated
> > WIFI.  USB is minimum.  Integrated WIFI I think is
> > extreme, but it should allow WIFI via CF adapter.
> > \ufffd	Minimum 64 MB memory, expandable to 512 MB via 2
> > slots x 256 simms.
> > \ufffd	Minimum 20 GB harddisk \ufffd standard 3.5 inch drive,
> > upgrade at will, no proprietary BS.
> >
> > In short \ufffd continue where Yamaha left off with the
> > QY700 from a sequencer  edit/control perspective,
> > up-dating the visual and connectivity interface to
> > modern technology.  The networking & color may seem
> > extreme, but I don't think so - there's a whole
> > commodity world there employing this tech - no reason
> > musician's should benefit from the same.
> >
> > That's what I would like from a sequencer.  If someone
> > wants to add sound capabilities to make it a little
> > more marketable, I have no issue with that \ufffd I'd use
> > it big time.  Give me the sequencer first, then
> > phatten it up a bit with sample storage and editing
> > integration.  Don't try to deliver samples with it \ufffd
> > there are plenty out there, just give me the ability
> > to work with standard formats.  Leave off the tone
> > generator; it just drives up the price & this can
> > definitely be done better elsewhere (like sample
> > production).  Add a basic effects section for final
> > mixing and balancing if there's a real demand (again,
> > I'd this on the computer or with an array of effects
> > processors, personally I don't need it in my Sequencer
> > per se).
> >
> > Lots of words, though meant with luv, Eric
> >
> > --- tahvenaine2002 <tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> > > I would buy without any questions!! ;)
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Eddie
> > > Higginson"
> > > <ehigginson@h...> wrote:
> > > > I wholeheartedly agree. Please Elektron, save us
> > > all from messing
> > > about with
> > > > QY700s, Rm1Xs and all those other sequencer and
> > > sound module combos
> > > and give
> > > > us all what we really want: an Elektron-designed
> > > sequencer. I would
> > > like
> > > > 32-track though, and how about a green screen this
> > > time for pure
> > > aesthetic
> > > > appeal alongside the MD an MnM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "puretokyo2002" <puretokyo@h...>
> > > > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone
> > > hardware sequencer
> > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:59:22 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > > > in fact, one of my "I hope they make it" synth
> > > items is an
> > > Elektron
> > > > > > dedicated sequencer with the MnM/MD interface
> > > and full
> > > polyphonic
> > > > > > capabilities (well, and the ability to record
> > > any incoming MIDI
> > > > > > information).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe.
> > > > >
> > > > >Amen. My god, what we could achieve with a stand
> > > alone, 16-track,
> > > > >polyphonic, 64-
> > > > >step, step-sequence would be incredible.
> > > Elektron, PLEASE. PLEASE
> > > PLEASE
> > > > >PLEASE.
> > > > >There is an huge gap in the market for this kind
> > > of tool.
> > > > >
> > > > >Ideally, in addition to the specs above, it would
> > > have:
> > > > >
> > > > >64 steps (4x16, like the mono)
> > > > >4 midi outs (to control samplers/synth modules
> > > etc)
> > > > >2 midi ins (to allow a keyboard and a knob-board
> > > or return from a
> > > synth)
> > > > >8 knobs for CC parameter control (say, 2 pages of
> > > parameters for
> > > each
> > > > >track)
> > > > >2 lfos for each track, sending midi parameter
> > > data to the external
> > > synths
> > > > >polyphonic recording/sequencing on each track
> > > > >MnM-style Arpeggiator, Slide etc
> > > > >
> > > > >This would be an absolutely incredible machine
> > > for writing music
> > > and for
> > > > >performing
> > > > >live. The vast majority of the hardware and
> > > software design is
> > > already
> > > > >complete, and
> > > > >thus it couldn't be that difficult to produce.
> > > > >The reason I personally would like it is that I
> > > find the MnM/MD
> > > perfect for
> > > > >writing,
> > > > >arranging and assembling, but can't control
> > > enough external
> > > > >synths/samplers, and
> > > > >not without routing midi via the computer.
> > > > >
> > > > >Who else would like to see something like this?
> > > What features
> > > should it
> > > > >include? If we
> > > > >shout loud enough...
> > > > >
> > > > >Angus.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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