Sorry I mean described by Eric >From: "Eddie Higginson" <ehigginson@...> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone hardware sequencer >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:56:25 +0000 > >Yeah, I don't want to see a more modern qy700 made by elektron. The less it >is like a computer the better. There is nothing wrong with a qy700 per >se-in >fact I have one myself-but once you get into the grid edit, add hard drives >and all that nonsense it becomes like a cut-down version of cubase which >does not really fit with the Elektron style or ethic, and becomes too >complicated and time-consuming for somebody who wants the immediacy of a >pattern sequencer to replace the fiddly operation of grid-edit sequencers >such as th qy700. The sequencer described by Angus sounds like a good >update >to the qy concept and has many useful features but is too far from the >original design of the pattern sequencer in the MnM or MD for an Ekektron >product. Maybe you should send your suggestions to Yamaha? > > -Big Ed > > >From: "puretokyo2002" <puretokyo@...> > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone hardware sequencer > >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 05:06:23 -0000 > > > > > >These are great ideas and sound like a beautiful machine. However, once > >not= > >ation > >editor, hard drive etc is added I think it has started to look like a > >compu= > >ter. The joy of > >the Mono/MD sequencer is its immediacy... There is obviously a HUGE >market > >= > >gap > >right now for a pure hardware sequencer that takes the place of units >like > >= > >the QY700, > >RM1X, etc. > > > >As for features, one that I would really like is the ability to offset > >indi= > >vidual notes > >separately. This would be a great boon. > > > >However, I genuinely believe Elektron could implement the hardware > >sequence= > >r in a > >very similar fashion the Monomachine and using essentially the same > >technol= > >ogy . > > > >Daniel and others, I certainly hope you guys seriously think about this - > >I= > >'d buy it in a > >eye-blink. > > > >Angus. > > > > > > > > This thread has captured most of the key control & > > > management specs I'd to see too. I second those who > > > added > > > > > > \ufffd 32 Tracks Minimum > > > \ufffd 8 MIDI outs > > > > > > To which I'd add > > > > > > \ufffd Stereo In / Out > > > \ufffd 1/480 Quarter Note Granularity > > > \ufffd MD-solid MIDI sync & video time-code sync > > > > > > I'd like to throw out the following for Interface & > > > Interface-driven functionality: > > > > > > \ufffd Multi-line interface capable of display at least 8 > > > (preferably 16 tracks at once). > > > \ufffd Color TFT Display, minimum 320 x 240 (640 x 480 > > > better) > > > \ufffd Navigation keys + multi-function dial for easy value > > > changes > > > \ufffd Assignable knobs for real-time control > > > \ufffd Joystick (great MnM idea \ufffd but instead of attached, > > > why not external for portability) > > > \ufffd Full midi creation and editing on a track / pattern > > > basis \ufffd recording (step / performance), multi-track, > > > pattern, score & event editing, mute, copy, paste. > > > \ufffd Ability to sequence pattern sets into songs (no hard > > > limit other than available memory / storage). > > > > > > And Connectivity: > > > > > > \ufffd Compact Flash or Secure Digital Slot (preference for > > > CF) > > > \ufffd Computer Connectivity \ufffd USB, 10-BaseT or integrated > > > WIFI. USB is minimum. Integrated WIFI I think is > > > extreme, but it should allow WIFI via CF adapter. > > > \ufffd Minimum 64 MB memory, expandable to 512 MB via 2 > > > slots x 256 simms. > > > \ufffd Minimum 20 GB harddisk \ufffd standard 3.5 inch drive, > > > upgrade at will, no proprietary BS. > > > > > > In short \ufffd continue where Yamaha left off with the > > > QY700 from a sequencer edit/control perspective, > > > up-dating the visual and connectivity interface to > > > modern technology. The networking & color may seem > > > extreme, but I don't think so - there's a whole > > > commodity world there employing this tech - no reason > > > musician's should benefit from the same. > > > > > > That's what I would like from a sequencer. If someone > > > wants to add sound capabilities to make it a little > > > more marketable, I have no issue with that \ufffd I'd use > > > it big time. Give me the sequencer first, then > > > phatten it up a bit with sample storage and editing > > > integration. Don't try to deliver samples with it \ufffd > > > there are plenty out there, just give me the ability > > > to work with standard formats. Leave off the tone > > > generator; it just drives up the price & this can > > > definitely be done better elsewhere (like sample > > > production). Add a basic effects section for final > > > mixing and balancing if there's a real demand (again, > > > I'd this on the computer or with an array of effects > > > processors, personally I don't need it in my Sequencer > > > per se). > > > > > > Lots of words, though meant with luv, Eric > > > > > > --- tahvenaine2002 <tahvenaine@c...> wrote: > > > > I would buy without any questions!! ;) > > > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Eddie > > > > Higginson" > > > > <ehigginson@h...> wrote: > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree. Please Elektron, save us > > > > all from messing > > > > about with > > > > > QY700s, Rm1Xs and all those other sequencer and > > > > sound module combos > > > > and give > > > > > us all what we really want: an Elektron-designed > > > > sequencer. I would > > > > like > > > > > 32-track though, and how about a green screen this > > > > time for pure > > > > aesthetic > > > > > appeal alongside the MD an MnM? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "puretokyo2002" <puretokyo@h...> > > > > > >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone > > > > hardware sequencer > > > > > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:59:22 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact, one of my "I hope they make it" synth > > > > items is an > > > > Elektron > > > > > > > dedicated sequencer with the MnM/MD interface > > > > and full > > > > polyphonic > > > > > > > capabilities (well, and the ability to record > > > > any incoming MIDI > > > > > > > information). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > >Amen. My god, what we could achieve with a stand > > > > alone, 16-track, > > > > > >polyphonic, 64- > > > > > >step, step-sequence would be incredible. > > > > Elektron, PLEASE. PLEASE > > > > PLEASE > > > > > >PLEASE. > > > > > >There is an huge gap in the market for this kind > > > > of tool. > > > > > > > > > > > >Ideally, in addition to the specs above, it would > > > > have: > > > > > > > > > > > >64 steps (4x16, like the mono) > > > > > >4 midi outs (to control samplers/synth modules > > > > etc) > > > > > >2 midi ins (to allow a keyboard and a knob-board > > > > or return from a > > > > synth) > > > > > >8 knobs for CC parameter control (say, 2 pages of > > > > parameters for > > > > each > > > > > >track) > > > > > >2 lfos for each track, sending midi parameter > > > > data to the external > > > > synths > > > > > >polyphonic recording/sequencing on each track > > > > > >MnM-style Arpeggiator, Slide etc > > > > > > > > > > > >This would be an absolutely incredible machine > > > > for writing music > > > > and for > > > > > >performing > > > > > >live. The vast majority of the hardware and > > > > software design is > > > > already > > > > > >complete, and > > > > > >thus it couldn't be that difficult to produce. > > > > > >The reason I personally would like it is that I > > > > find the MnM/MD > > > > perfect for > > > > > >writing, > > > > > >arranging and assembling, but can't control > > > > enough external > > > > > >synths/samplers, and > > > > > >not without routing midi via the computer. > > > > > > > > > > > >Who else would like to see something like this? > > > > What features > > > > should it > > > > > >include? If we > > > > > >shout loud enough... > > > > > > > > > > > >Angus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone hardware sequencer
2004-01-15 by Eddie Higginson