Elektron Musical Instruments

well...there the zeit, and atem sequencers by Infection link here: 
http://www.infectionmusic.co.uk/instrumentindex.html,

there is also the future retro mobius, spectral audio is working on 
one called the cyclus, theres a bunch of doepfer's, the quasimidi 
cyber-6, and ofcoarse all the japanese ones as you mentioned yamaha 
as well as roland, korg, akai. also theres one by alesis...

with all the choise's out there, i really cant see much of a market 
for another one...





--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Eddie Higginson" 
<ehigginson@h...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "puretokyo2002" <puretokyo@h...>
> >Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [elektron] Elektron stand-alone hardware sequencer
> >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:38:22 -0000
> >
> >--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "SiD LoHr" 
<sp0ok_show@y...> wrote:
> > > i dont really think to world needs yet another stand alone 
hardware
> > > sequencer tho.. theres already more than enuff to choose from.
> >
> >Such as..? I'm wracking my brains here...
> >
>   I'll second that! I know this has already been mentioned on this 
thread, 
> but what choice is there really? Yamaha? Well I own a qy700 myself, 
which, 
> while being totally hardware-based in the studio (no goddamn 
computers in 
> there!) is useful for backing up sysex and performing other non 
> sequencing-related activities, is really far from ideal when it 
comes to 
> sequencing for me. I have already tried and completely disliked the 
software 
> sequencer route, in particular how slow it all is, and also by the 
fact that 
> you need a noisy, unreliable, not-very-portable computer to run it 
on, as 
> well as the fact that you have to have a degree in computing to be 
able to 
> make a half decent music set-up that will do what the software and 
soundcard 
> boxes said it would be able to without crashing every 20 minutes!
>   With the demise of the Latronic Notron, there is really nothing 
simple but 
> effective out there.
> As I say there is always Yamaha stuff, but that all seems to rely 
on the 
> fact that their internal tone generators will be your main 
instruments, and 
> you still have to pay for the damn things whether you use them or 
not ('not' 
> is usually the case, unless you like all your tunes to sound like 
karaoke 
> backing tracks). The QY700, dubbed "the king of hardware 
sequencers" has 2, 
> yes 2 whole MIDI outs for its 32 channels and while being able to 
support 32 
> racks of non-loop based cubase-stle grid edit (but with no cut and 
pasting 
> of sections!) supports only 16 channels of "pattern" tracks which 
you can 
> arrange into a song, but which still rely on the slow painful task 
of grid 
> or list editing. And this is the best we've got!
>   The only other options are strange, large German efforts 
(mentioning no 
> names here) which mostly have a bias towards CV/Gate (which may be 
fine if 
> you have a studio full of vintage Moogs) and are at best cumbersome 
and 
> pretty basic to say the least! What we need are LESS 'grooveboxes' 
( a word 
> which to me just says 'I'm a DJ but want a Studio-In-A-Box which is 
easy to 
> use so I can make some 'grooves') and more serious bits of kit that 
have 
> more than 1 MIDI in/out/thru and aren't designed as a Jack-of-all-
Trades 
> 'Song Machine'!
>   And this is 'plenty to choose from'! Let me guess, you use a 
software 
> sequencer don't you?...
> 
> -Big Ed
> 
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