Can't you chain two or more patterns to play like in the MD in pattern mode? Just press two or more pattern buttons in order? I see what you are saying there. I see it as being always limited by the instrument. There has been alot of interesting music made on machines that do not have the features everyone is asking. I'm just suggesting that since we can't make music out of our heads that we learn to produce with innovation rather than bother with speculation or requests. The technology is part of the creative process. Alot of these changes would probably help me too. I was just hoping people would get on about how they are making music with these machines and forget about what their ideal machine would do. Not to say this is wrong. It would be even more helpful if some really got serious about making their ideal machine themselves. Remember these are just thoughts, I'm making chatter. --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Gene Schwartz <implode7@p...> wrote: > I wrote about the 28 step pattern... > > I think that you don't quite understand the spirit behind these requests. > The people who have made them all like the Monomachine very much (as far as > I can tell). However, there are still ways in which the user interface can > be improved in orde to aid creativity. Some improvements are not feasible > technically, some might be contrary to the wishes of the majority of users, > and some might be specific to such a small minority that it isn't worth the > time and effort. In some of these cases, their is some workaround in which > the user could accomplish the desired goal, but because of the fact that the > workaround requires a different way of working altogether, it doesn't really > satisfy the goals of person who made the request. > > In my case, I wanted to see the 14 step (or other length) step scales while > I was recording in pattern mode. One doesn't work the same way in song mode. > Therefore your solution (which I was certainly aware of) doesn't really > address my request at all. The improvement I requested would certainly help > me, though I would understand if no one else desired this change, or > Elektron thought that it would not be easy enough or impossible to > accomplish. > > But before you minimize the requests of other users for improvements which > would really help them, think about the fact that it is not just the > eventual technical accomplishment, but the creative process that they might > be thinking about. > > From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@y...> > Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:22:03 -0000 > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound > > > Why dont you just set up the patterns to play this way. I know what > you mean by being easier, but that doesn't mean you can't do it on > these sequencers. Just make it a different machine and have it mute > and unmute and change as the song goes. You could even have > evolving kits as you go. Things could always be easier a different > way for each piece of gear, but you gotta work with what you got. > If it's getting too hard maybe you need to change your approach. > > About the 28 step patterns just make two patterns of 14.... > > Alot of what's been said recentlly seems to me to not be impossible > on the MD at least. Different pattern lengths, you are limited by > your longest pattern and in a chain it seems unlimited (more than 32 > steps). > > It's kind of like asking to have a better resolution on this step > pattern. > > Just my opinion here. I hope nobody lashes out at me. I only have > the MD btw not MnM. > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" > <noision1@h...> wrote: > > That is what I liked so much about Megamix in the MC505 and even > better is X-MIX in the Command Stations. Pretty much how they > work!!! VERY VERY NICE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Joe > > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:44:42PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote: > > > another thing LSDj does really well is pattern switching. > each of the > > > four channels can play one pattern at once, and you can > switch which > > > pattern each of the channels is playing indipendently of > each other. > > > it makes cueing and switching very easy ... if each of the > MnM's six > > > tracks could have individual patterns rather than a pattern > > > containing info for all six channels, that would be ruleing. > > > having patterns be able to play on channels rather than > channels play > > > in patterns also makes song composition go really quickly. > > > however i know the MnM is set up like a typical drum > machine/techno > > > box so perhaps people used to old machines would think this > is a wack > > > way of doing things. > > > > that would be fan-freakin-tastic! I'm happy as hell with the MnM > and MD > > as is. but such a feature would take their sequencing ability > > to a whole other level. > > > > > so, back to the start ...for me the question is ... would > individual > > > patterns for each channel be technically feasible or is it > mearly a > > > pipe dream??? hehe > > > > someone asked in here before if it would be possible to > implement something > > along those lines. that is, switch what a track within a pattern > is playing > > while the other tracks play as normal. we were told "no" by > Elektron. but > > I don't quite remember whether it was because it was impossible > or just > > that they thought it would overcomplicate things. > > > > > p.s. still havin good fun w/ the box, learning my way > around it a > > > lot, have come up with a track or two i like enough ... got > to do a > > > few more then i'll share he-heeeee > > > > be sure to! > > > > Joe > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > Yahoo! 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Re: [elektron] sound on sound
2004-03-17 by endlessnessisticman