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Re: [elektron] sound on sound

2004-03-17 by Gene Schwartz

Well, I guess you can copy and paste patterns, but to exceed 64 steps you'd
need to be in song mode.

Still - if you copied and pasted a second 14 step pattern, I don't think
that you would have 2 chained 14 step patterns on the display. I haven't
tried copied and pasting it, actually - I have only tried doing it through
the page functions. But you are able to get 2 14 step pages in pattern mode
on the machinedrum?

From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:33:45 -0000
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound


I don't know much about the MnM since I don't have one.  Can't you
chain two or more patterns to play in pattern mode like the MD?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Gene Schwartz <implode7@p...>
wrote:
> I wrote about the 28 step pattern...
> 
> I think that you don't quite understand the spirit behind these
requests.
> The people who have made them all like the Monomachine very much
(as far as
> I can tell). However, there are still ways in which the user
interface can
> be improved in orde to aid creativity. Some improvements are not
feasible
> technically,  some might be contrary to the wishes of the majority
of users,
> and some might be specific to such a small minority that it isn't
worth the
> time and effort. In some of these cases, their is some workaround
in which
> the user could accomplish the desired goal, but because of the
fact that the
> workaround requires a different way of working altogether, it
doesn't really
> satisfy the goals of person who made the request.
> 
> In my case, I wanted to see the 14 step (or other length) step
scales while
> I was recording in pattern mode. One doesn't work the same way in
song mode.
> Therefore your solution (which I was certainly aware of) doesn't
really
> address my request at all. The improvement I requested would
certainly help
> me, though I would understand if no one else desired this change,
or
> Elektron thought that it would not be easy enough or impossible to
> accomplish.
> 
> But before you minimize the requests of other users for
improvements which
> would really help them, think about the fact that it is not just
the
> eventual technical accomplishment, but the creative process that
they might
> be thinking about.
> 
> From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@y...>
> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:22:03 -0000
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound
> 
> 
> Why dont you just set up the patterns to play this way.  I know
what
> you mean by being easier, but that doesn't mean you can't do it on
> these sequencers.  Just make it a different machine and have it
mute
> and unmute and change as the song goes.  You could even have
> evolving kits as you go.  Things could always be easier a different
> way for each piece of gear, but you gotta work with what you got.
> If it's getting too hard maybe you need to change your approach.
> 
> About the 28 step patterns just make two patterns of 14....
> 
> Alot of what's been said recentlly seems to me to not be impossible
> on the MD at least.  Different pattern lengths, you are limited by
> your longest pattern and in a chain it seems unlimited (more than
32
> steps).
> 
> It's kind of like asking to have a better resolution on this step
> pattern.
> 
> Just my opinion here.  I hope nobody lashes out at me.  I only have
> the MD btw not MnM.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
> <noision1@h...> wrote:
> > That is what I liked so much about Megamix in the MC505 and even
> better is X-MIX in the Command Stations. Pretty much how they
> work!!! VERY VERY NICE
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Joe 
> >   To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:11 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [elektron] sound on sound
> > 
> > 
> >   On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:44:42PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
> >   >    another thing LSDj does really well is pattern switching.
> each of the
> >   >    four channels can play one pattern at once, and you can
> switch which
> >   >    pattern each of the channels is playing indipendently of
> each other.
> >   >    it makes cueing and switching very easy ... if each of the
> MnM's six
> >   >    tracks could have individual patterns rather than a
pattern
> >   >    containing info for all six channels, that would be
ruleing.
> >   >    having patterns be able to play on channels rather than
> channels play
> >   >    in patterns also makes song composition go really quickly.
> >   >    however i know the MnM is set up like a typical drum
> machine/techno
> >   >    box so perhaps people used to old machines would think
this
> is a wack
> >   >    way of doing things.
> > 
> >   that would be fan-freakin-tastic! I'm happy as hell with the
MnM
> and MD
> >   as is. but such a feature would take their sequencing ability
> >   to a whole other level.
> > 
> >   >    so, back to the start ...for me the question is ... would
> individual
> >   >    patterns for each channel be technically feasible or is it
> mearly a
> >   >    pipe dream??? hehe
> > 
> >   someone asked in here before if it would be possible to
> implement something
> >   along those lines. that is, switch what a track within a
pattern
> is playing
> >   while the other tracks play as normal. we were told "no" by
> Elektron. but
> >   I don't quite remember whether it was because it was impossible
> or just
> >   that they thought it would overcomplicate things.
> > 
> >   >    p.s. still havin good fun w/ the box, learning my way
> around it a
> >   >    lot, have come up with a track or two i like enough ...
got
> to do a
> >   >    few more then i'll share he-heeeee
> > 
> >   be sure to!
> > 
> >   Joe
> > 
> > 
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