Elektron Musical Instruments

UPS had a delay so I didn't receive it yesterday when I was supposed to, but
I will have my mono keyboard on Monday :) woot! I've been waiting since the
betas to be able to buy one :D

So are we still gonna do MnM pattern contests to compliment the MD ones?

Got my MnM yesterday and jammed out a bit on a pattern I made, it's really a
wonderful machine :)

http://www.nmisystem.com/music/battlestar.mp3

Gotta love that joystick!  Man, if I had cats, they would be heading for 
the hills about now ;)  Seriously, sounds pretty cool.

/Scott

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I feel like I'm 'missing' something by not utilizing a Joystick with my 
SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick' controller, 
but I do not believe anything like that is available.

So I am considering purchasing either an M-Audio Ozonic 
(http://m-audio.com/products/en_us/Ozonic-main.html)

or the Novation X-Station 
(http://www.novationmusic.com/nov_route/docs/front/front2.htm)

which are the only two controllers I could find that offer a Joystick...

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

thanxs!

-M

On 1/12/05 3:05 PM, "Mark Camp" wrote:

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> SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick' controller,
> but I do not believe anything like that is available.
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> which are the only two controllers I could find that offer a Joystick...
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> Does anyone have any other suggestions?

+ Korg microcontrol. Also don't rule out pad's n stuff, like the kaos pad.
Also some people on this list recommended building a joystick, and said it
wasn¹t too hard. 

Having that real time control is amazing.

I have the MicroKorg, which has a joystick.  I'm really happy with it.  
Another controller that features a joystick is the Novation ReMote 25.  
I wasn't able to find a standalone joystick, either, so I went with the 
MK.  It's pretty nice to have the keyboard attached to it, even if the 
keys are kindof dinky.  That's not too important, though, because I'm 
more interested in Multi-Map/Multi-Trig than I am in playing the keyboard.

/Scott

Mark Camp wrote:

>I feel like I'm 'missing' something by not utilizing a Joystick with my 
>SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick' controller, 
>but I do not believe anything like that is available.
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>So I am considering purchasing either an M-Audio Ozonic 
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>or the Novation X-Station 
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>Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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the X-station is also available as the Remote25, which is ONLY a midi 
controller keyboard and doesn't have a built-in audio interface and 
synth.

both the joystick and the touchpad on the Remote25 are fully 
configurable.
It's a good quality keyboard.

The pads on the MK are pretty cool for use with the SFX-60.  I've got 
one scene where I've mapped various BeatBox MIDI notes, so that's fun to 
bang out beats with.  I plan to make a scene where the pads are mapped 
to MnM pattern changes, but I haven't had time yet.

The faders and rotary encoders are useful, too.  I've got faders 1-6 
mapped to Vol, and the encoders (which are endless) to Filter Width.  
Faders 7 and 8 are not mapped yet, because I haven't though of anything 
useful to map them to.  Come to think of it, I could probably map all 
the of the faders and encoders to something more interesting than Vol 
and Filt.  Any suggestions?

/Scott


Andy Tarpinian wrote:

>On 1/12/05 3:05 PM, "Mark Camp" wrote:
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>>I feel like I'm 'missing' something by not utilizing a Joystick with my
>>SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick' controller,
>>but I do not believe anything like that is available.
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>>So I am considering purchasing either an M-Audio Ozonic
>>(http://m-audio.com/products/en_us/Ozonic-main.html)
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If you don't like the tiny keys of the micro control but love the control options of it, I 
would wait until after NAMM on jan 20-23 and see if korg releases their kontrol 49 here in 
the US. It looks to be available in Japan and features 49 full sized keys and all the control 
of the Microcontrol and they even package their wavestation synth from the legacy 
collection with it. No guarentee you will see it's release but it's worth a couple days wait.  It 
has the joystick you are hoping to find as well.

Thanks, evil robot cats ;)

On 1/12/05 2:48 PM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:

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> Gotta love that joystick!  Man, if I had cats, they would be heading for
> the hills about now ;)  Seriously, sounds pretty cool.
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On Jan 12, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:

>  Korg microcontrol. Also don't rule out pad's n stuff, like the kaos 
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Aha.. duh, the Kaoss pad..  for some reason I didnt even think about 
that..  I think thats what I'll go for..

thanxs for all the feedback.

-M


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We've found that the MnM tends toward shrieking Hellcat sounds, but 
we've discovered that it's got a mellow, placid side as well.  The EOG 
is great for getting tones 'just so'.  Run at decent volume through good 
monitors, we've heard some intense overtones coming from machines that 
sounded simple over headphones or at low volumes.

/Scott

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On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Mark Camp wrote:

> I feel like I'm 'missing' something by not utilizing a Joystick with my
>  SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick' 
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>  but I do not believe anything like that is available.

probably the cheapest one out there right now (or will be within the 
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month or so) is the Alesis Photon 25.  they're listed at 139USD which is
I think around 1/2 of all of the other controllers listed so far 
(though all
those other controllers have other features which make them worth their
respective costs).  check it out:
http://alesis.com/products/photon25/index.html


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Is the machinedrum good at making a large variety of snares? Layered 
complex snares?

Please don't get confused.  The MicroKorg doesn't have a joystick. 
It's the MicroKontrol.  Totally different keyboards.  Actually I
didn't know the MicroKontrol has one but now that I look at a picture
I see it on the bottom left.  Hard to see black on black.

I don't think anything else has an audio input besides the Ozonic and
X-station.  The Virus Ti has it but it's a totally different beast,
without a joystick no doubt.  (They probably should have!)  I don't
think the Ozonic has a built in synth.  The Remote X-station has the k
station synth engine in it.  Lot's more controllers as well!

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
> I have the MicroKorg, which has a joystick.  I'm really happy with it.  
> Another controller that features a joystick is the Novation ReMote 25.  
> I wasn't able to find a standalone joystick, either, so I went with the 
> MK.  It's pretty nice to have the keyboard attached to it, even if the 
> keys are kindof dinky.  That's not too important, though, because I'm 
> more interested in Multi-Map/Multi-Trig than I am in playing the
keyboard.
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> Mark Camp wrote:
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> >I feel like I'm 'missing' something by not utilizing a Joystick
with my 
> >SFX60.    Ideally I'd love to find a simple 'MIDI Joystick'
controller, 
> >but I do not believe anything like that is available.
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> >So I am considering purchasing either an M-Audio Ozonic 
> >(http://m-audio.com/products/en_us/Ozonic-main.html)
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> >or the Novation X-Station 
> >(http://www.novationmusic.com/nov_route/docs/front/front2.htm)
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Joystick...

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Yeah, yeah, I get confused on the names all the time.  Even the travel 
bag it shipped with says 'MicroKorg' on it.

But, all together now, the controller with the joystick is the 
MICROKONTROL ;)


/Scott

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yes

That sounds tasty.  I'll be at NAMM this year so I'll check out what 
Korg has to offer..

thanxs!
-M

On Jan 12, 2005, at 12:48 PM, thebedroom23 wrote:

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>  the US. It looks to be available in Japan and features 49 full sized 
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Finally got a controller coming up for the mono! It's a kenton control
freak studio thingy with 16 faders in a heavy old school metal box.
Also got two interesting foot pedal input jacks. Happens to be the same
as analogue CV inputs with a 5V feed. Great! Soldering two TSR jacks to
each of the pots in any plain joystick or other potentiometer device
works just as well as doing it in a guitar pedal. Gaffertape the 'stick
to the sfx and off it goes! :)

Seems to be standard the same 0-5V inputs on the faders, makes it easy
to add more of those funky input devices. Hope to get at least one
penny&giles ultra smooth dj-crossfader connected. Midi output from the
live mixer would be perfect! 


PS: sync problems; be sure to use a star pattern on the connections.
Dear say that most sync problems are probably due to long daisy
chaining through slow devices and long cables. Get a midi thru unit to
feed all sensitive devices directly. Same goes with the din sync if you
chain sync24 boxes. Splicing two or three cables to make a dumb
splitter usually works fine if you need to. Percussive attacks need
precise timing, synths with attack in the envelope less so. 


Cheers,

Andreas