Elektron Musical Instruments

You might want to pick up a book or two first and do some studying.  It'll 
be hard to make a good choice for yourself otherwise and it would suck to 
pay large amounts of cash for something that turns out to not fill your 
needs.

To help direct you though, what exactly are you looking to do?  The more 
specific the better...

{mr}klown

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don't start out on the sid. true, it is a synth that can be programmed well, 
wait till u have a better midi setup, if any....if ur gonna start out..find 
something with a external sequencer along with the synthesis part.  um....I 
would seriously recomend the KORG EA-1 for a beginner synth. It helps with 
learning what synthesis is about, and , Korg just droped the price 100 bux, 
so u can now get one for 300 or so. wait on the sid....trust me on this
-sean


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>I'm thinking about buying a sidstation and i was wondering if it's the one
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I own a SidStation and it is a real support for my studio. I wouldn't count 
on it as you main sound source because it is so special and unique it simply 
can add the touch and flavor to an existing setup. it does wonders in a mix!! 
for instance i had a mix that i replaced the low end bass drone with a pulsy 
wobbly kind of bass sound in the sidstation and the mix became alive like a 
volcano!! the 8Bit sound is really punchy gritty and cuts through a mix like 
a knife in soft butter.
As I said before if you don't have any sound modules or keyboards in your 
setup...depending primarily on the Station will force your songs to sound 
like C64 tunes (which isn't bad if that's what you want) plus don't forget 
that it is not multitimbral so you'd have to dub audio tracks with little 
regret in an audio sequencer or something.

hope this helps

EItan Teomi

Eitan Teomi

<A HREF="http://ourworld.cs.com/teomi">http://ourworld.cs.com/teomi</A>


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Now, if you don't know anything about synthesis and midi, it doesn't
really matter. I didn't either before starting with it. The thing is
the SS is a real basic piece for a first synth, it might be a little
confusing because the programming is strange and a little
disappointing because it requires at least a midi keyboard or software
to pilot it.
When I first said it was monophonic, I forgot about the poly mode. So,
true, the ss can play poly (understand, you can play more than a note
at a time = more than one note sound. You can't play chords with a
mono synth. That's the main point).
Then, about the midi : midi sequencers have 16 channels. One midi
instrument can have from one to sixteen channels timbrality (I'm not a
real king of midi, so correct me if I'm wrong), meaning you can
dispatch the programming on 1 to 16 channels. As far as synths are
concerned, you can play 1 to 16 patches in a song, one patch being
assignable to one channel. I don't know if I'm really clear...
Example: my JP8000 has two channels multitimbrality, so I can only use
2 patches at a time. The sidstation has one channel. So: u can use it
on ONE channel only. The three oscillators have nothing to do with it.
Three oscillators means u have 3 sound sources. THIS is VERY GOOD !!!
That's one of the main things with the SS . The 3 oscilators RULE !!!
It's just too bad you can not exploit them on three different midi
channels. THAT would make it THE ultimate synth !!!! But u still can
exploit the machine real good.
My point remains. For a first buy, this is not an easy synth, and can
be a little disapointing if you use a midi sequencer wishing to do
complex harmonic stuff.
You can go vintage as some told you to. But my advice would be : check
the JP 8000 or Korg MS 2000 (cheaper with as a good sound and a
vocoder kinda thing). THey have midi implantation and are very very
easy to use, almost all the parameters are tweakable with the knobs,
they sound real cool, wild and wide spectrum of sounds. That's the
first synth I would buy today if I had to. It does bleeps too(less
good than the ss, but, still) but are better for rich sounds, and
that's I would want for a first synth.
My point of view.

I bought the SidStation as my first machine and sold it not long afterwards.
I can't wait to get another one, though (especially before they run out).
My problem was two, perhaps threefold.  It was at the time my only
synthesizer so I was very limited (an all-Sid track was not what I had in
mind).  For about the same amount of money you can purchase a synthesizer
that makes all the basic necessary sounds (albeit not as well or
interestingly as the Sid) for electronic music.  Finally my interest lies in
styles of drum and bass, where the Sid would play a smaller role (not
warranting being half of my studio in cost).

If you have the money to spend to get the SidStation AND other things - to
set up a fairly complete studio - go for it.  However, if all you can afford
is the sid, you should probably work from the ground up, buying the most
important, most common parts first.  But, keep in mind that the SidStation
won't be around forever, so don't wait too long to buy it (advice I myself
will heed).

~Andrew

> From: krupir@...
> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:16:20 -0000
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [elektron] Re: My first machine...
> 
> Now, if you don't know anything about synthesis and midi, it doesn't
> really matter. I didn't either before starting with it. The thing is
> the SS is a real basic piece for a first synth, it might be a little
> confusing because the programming is strange and a little
> disappointing because it requires at least a midi keyboard or software
> to pilot it.
> When I first said it was monophonic, I forgot about the poly mode. So,
> true, the ss can play poly (understand, you can play more than a note
> at a time = more than one note sound. You can't play chords with a
> mono synth. That's the main point).
> Then, about the midi : midi sequencers have 16 channels. One midi
> instrument can have from one to sixteen channels timbrality (I'm not a
> real king of midi, so correct me if I'm wrong), meaning you can
> dispatch the programming on 1 to 16 channels. As far as synths are
> concerned, you can play 1 to 16 patches in a song, one patch being
> assignable to one channel. I don't know if I'm really clear...
> Example: my JP8000 has two channels multitimbrality, so I can only use
> 2 patches at a time. The sidstation has one channel. So: u can use it
> on ONE channel only. The three oscillators have nothing to do with it.
> Three oscillators means u have 3 sound sources. THIS is VERY GOOD !!!
> That's one of the main things with the SS . The 3 oscilators RULE !!!
> It's just too bad you can not exploit them on three different midi
> channels. THAT would make it THE ultimate synth !!!! But u still can
> exploit the machine real good.
> My point remains. For a first buy, this is not an easy synth, and can
> be a little disapointing if you use a midi sequencer wishing to do
> complex harmonic stuff.
> You can go vintage as some told you to. But my advice would be : check
> the JP 8000 or Korg MS 2000 (cheaper with as a good sound and a
> vocoder kinda thing). THey have midi implantation and are very very
> easy to use, almost all the parameters are tweakable with the knobs,
> they sound real cool, wild and wide spectrum of sounds. That's the
> first synth I would buy today if I had to. It does bleeps too(less
> good than the ss, but, still) but are better for rich sounds, and
> that's I would want for a first synth.
> My point of view.
> 
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