Elektron Musical Instruments

...announced on elektron website



grts divi

www.elektron-users.com

On 2/4/05 5:33 AM, "divi309" wrote:

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Oh snap

glad i kept mine. now i need to use it more..  elektron has done more 
for my outlook on hardware possibilities than anything in the last 10 
years. they kept me from slipping eternally to software.

so here's to the 500 sfx-6 and as many sfx-60s as are out there as well.

On Feb 4, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:

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On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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> so here's to the 500 sfx-6 and as many sfx-60s as are out there as well.

iirc, there are nearly 1200 users on this list.

that's wicked.  i wonder how many units are out there.

-- 
yours,
niall.
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aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
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I am super glad that I now own one! The MnM rocks, and I can't wait to
get it hooked up to either a 	Sherman Filterbank 2, or a Akai MFC42
Analog filter.

I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
2... or should I get both?


-Micah


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall munnelly <aleph@a...> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
> > 
> > so here's to the 500 sfx-6 and as many sfx-60s as are out there as
well.
> 
> iirc, there are nearly 1200 users on this list.
> 
> that's wicked.  i wonder how many units are out there.
> 
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
> .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .           
     .
> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around
silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:54:53AM -0000, finite_sf wrote:
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> I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> 2... or should I get both?

skip 'em both, and save up for a mutronics mutator.

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Ymm.. tasty. Thanks for you quick responce.


-M

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall munnelly <aleph@a...> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:54:53AM -0000, finite_sf wrote:
> > 
> > I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> > you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> > 2... or should I get both?
> 
> skip 'em both, and save up for a mutronics mutator.
> 
> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
> .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .           
     .
> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around
silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

On that note, has anyone had any experience using the Electrix Filter
Factory? After spluring on an MPC and an Indigo 2, I'm not sure if I
can swing $600, but oh do I want a modular filter!

charles

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "finite_sf" <finite_sf@y...> wrote:

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> I am super glad that I now own one! The MnM rocks, and I can't wait to
> get it hooked up to either a 	Sherman Filterbank 2, or a Akai MFC42
> Analog filter.
> 
> I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> 2... or should I get both?
> 
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> -Micah
>

On 2/4/05 2:30 PM, "niall munnelly" wrote:

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> On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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>> so here's to the 500 sfx-6 and as many sfx-60s as are out there as well.
> 
> iirc, there are nearly 1200 users on this list.
> 
> that's wicked.  i wonder how many units are out there.

I wonder if the betas count in the 500 total? If so that¹s like 200 right
there I think.

finite_sf wrote:
> I am super glad that I now own one! The MnM rocks, and I can't wait to
> get it hooked up to either a Sherman Filterbank 2, or a Akai MFC42
> Analog filter.
>
> I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> 2... or should I get both?
>

I like the Akai a lot. It is a very "nice" filter, not at all like the
Sherman or Mutron - it's more subtle, although it has distortion, too. It
works great with my MachineDrum. And it was cheap: 275 Euros new, because it
doesn't have the new blue Akai look - as if I care.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

I'm glad I sold my MFC when I did.  It does sound nice.  It made my
ms2000r sound alot better.  It can do some little tricks, which for
the price wasn't worth it.  What is great about it is that you can use
it to synch the LFO by midi.  I think the others may be better.  I
felt the MFC was limited by the routing.  It would be nice to switch
the distortion&flanger to the mono or stereo or both, for example.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Gert van Santen"
<g.vansanten@c...> wrote:
> finite_sf wrote:
> > I am super glad that I now own one! The MnM rocks, and I can't wait to
> > get it hooked up to either a Sherman Filterbank 2, or a Akai MFC42
> > Analog filter.
> >
> > I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> > you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> > 2... or should I get both?
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> I like the Akai a lot. It is a very "nice" filter, not at all like the
> Sherman or Mutron - it's more subtle, although it has distortion,
too. It
> works great with my MachineDrum. And it was cheap: 275 Euros new,
because it

> doesn't have the new blue Akai look - as if I care.
> 
> Gert
> www.waveworld.tv

Hi people,

I had three Filter Factory's and they do a great job..
The Filter Factory and the MFC42 are very much the same...
There are people who say the MFC is better in lowpass filtering..
But the filterfactory is build much nicer and compleetly aluminium.
both can work in mono or stereo.

The Sherman Filterbank is a different ballgame....this machine F@#ks up your sound
in a very good way!!! but is not useable for normal filtering...

I sold my Filter Factory to someone who already had the sherman but wanted to have 
a normal analog filter to...

electrixpro is selling new products now, so check it out....

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> On that note, has anyone had any experience using the Electrix Filter
> Factory? After spluring on an MPC and an Indigo 2, I'm not sure if I
> can swing $600, but oh do I want a modular filter!
>

I can't believe it's limited now considering it was just released 
lastyear.  I think it would of been better in this case to not have 
designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional 
below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.  It'll 
be interesting to see what Elektron puts out next.

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 04:22:49PM -0000, monads wrote:
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> I can't believe it's limited now considering it was just released 
> lastyear.  I think it would of been better in this case to not have 
> designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional 
> below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.  It'll 
> be interesting to see what Elektron puts out next.

if elektron made a sampler, i would buy it.

-- 
yours,
niall.
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aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

yes.  i think a lot of people would.

On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:27 AM, niall munnelly wrote:

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>> I can't believe it's limited now considering it was just released
>> lastyear.  I think it would of been better in this case to not have
>> designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional
>> below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.  It'll
>> be interesting to see what Elektron puts out next.
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> if elektron made a sampler, i would buy it.
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> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
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using the form factor they already established for the MD, where would 
they have put the keyboard below the synth layout? it would have been 
deeper than (eg) an SH-101 and would have had an awful center of 
gravity.

On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:22 AM, monads wrote:

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> I can't believe it's limited now considering it was just released
> lastyear.  I think it would of been better in this case to not have
> designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional
> below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.  It'll
> be interesting to see what Elektron puts out next.
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>  I think it would of been better in this case to not have
>  designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional
>  below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.

I think it's perfect as is.  the key is that it's designed for interactive
sequencing more than playing.  so when you sequence something, you simply
move over a foot to the keys, play it, then move back to the sequencer and
tweak the sounds to hell and back.  this way, you're not constantly
stooped over the keyboard, trying to reach the sequencer and controls
while you're tweaking.

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:49:14AM -0500, jmelnyk@... wrote:
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> >  I think it would of been better in this case to not have
> >  designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional
> >  below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.
> 
> I think it's perfect as is.  the key is that it's designed for interactive
> sequencing more than playing.

...or recording.

gah.

livable gripes, though.  i loves me my sfx-6.  still, it's telling
that even elektron call its form factor "obnoxious".

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

i control the keys with my right hand (when my arm isn't broken) and 
the "box" with the left.  i don't see have any problems with it... i 
don't think it is obnoxious, that's weird to me.   very very long and 
thin, maybe.. heh.. but not obnoxious.

On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:52 AM, niall munnelly wrote:

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>>>  I think it would of been better in this case to not have
>>>  designed the keyboard off to the side, but rather the traditional
>>>  below the synth controls layout.  I would of liked that more.
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>> I think it's perfect as is.  the key is that it's designed for 
>> interactive
>> sequencing more than playing.
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> gah.
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> livable gripes, though.  i loves me my sfx-6.  still, it's telling
> that even elektron call its form factor "obnoxious".
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> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
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>livable gripes, though.  i loves me my sfx-6.  still, it's telling
>that even elektron call its form factor "obnoxious".
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I disagree.  I think 'obnoxious' in this context means 'bucking 
traditional designs and industry trends'.

/Scott

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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> i control the keys with my right hand (when my arm isn't broken) and 
> the "box" with the left.  i don't see have any problems with it... i 
> don't think it is obnoxious, that's weird to me.   very very long and 
> thin, maybe.. heh.. but not obnoxious.

aye, personally, i love it, but the words are elektron's!

http://www.monomachine.com/monoinfo/?info=8

tell you the truth, i almost want another.  not so much for
speculator-scum value as "how cool would it be to write
songs with two monomachines and a machinedrum?"


-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:04:54PM -0500, Scott Kellogg wrote:
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> I disagree.  I think 'obnoxious' in this context means 'bucking 
> traditional designs and industry trends'.

that's certainly elektron's strength, and why their premium
prices are worth it.

-- 
yours,
niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

On 2/7/05 12:07 PM, "niall munnelly" wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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>> i control the keys with my right hand (when my arm isn't broken) and
>> the "box" with the left.  i don't see have any problems with it... i
>> don't think it is obnoxious, that's weird to me.   very very long and
>> thin, maybe.. heh.. but not obnoxious.
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> aye, personally, i love it, but the words are elektron's!
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> http://www.monomachine.com/monoinfo/?info=8
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> tell you the truth, i almost want another.  not so much for
> speculator-scum value as "how cool would it be to write
> songs with two monomachines and a machinedrum?"
> 

I was thinking this the other day, it's often that I am making something and
I'm like damn I need another one. But I do need an md.

And about the form factor I think it's good, It's been only a couple of
times that I have wound up in the "my arm is blocking the display position"
for some reason it doesn¹t happen anymore, maybe cuz I know what the knobs
do now.

yep.. i agree with Scott's take on this, as well.. clearly they aren't 
making it limited because suddenly they aren't proud as heck of their 
long silver creation. :)  The best thing that happened to me all year 
was being "stuck with that monomachine" when I moved overseas.  Having 
come back early and it never selling, I get to actually use it..  Did 
have to replace the MD though.

Chris

On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:08 AM, niall munnelly wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:04:54PM -0500, Scott Kellogg wrote:
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>> I disagree.  I think 'obnoxious' in this context means 'bucking
>> traditional designs and industry trends'.
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> that's certainly elektron's strength, and why their premium
> prices are worth it.
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> -- 
> yours,
> niall.
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> aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around 
> silence.
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What I would really like to see is a standalone joystick, manufactured 
by Elektron, for use with the SFX-60.

/Scott

Christopher Mitchell wrote:

>yep.. i agree with Scott's take on this, as well.. clearly they aren't 
>making it limited because suddenly they aren't proud as heck of their 
>long silver creation. :)  The best thing that happened to me all year 
>was being "stuck with that monomachine" when I moved overseas.  Having 
>come back early and it never selling, I get to actually use it..  Did 
>have to replace the MD though.
>
>Chris
>On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:08 AM, niall munnelly wrote:
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>>>traditional designs and industry trends'.
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>>that's certainly elektron's strength, and why their premium
>>prices are worth it.
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>>-- 
>>yours,
>>niall.
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>>aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around 
>>silence.
>>http://syncretism.net
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All very different machines.... 

look at either:

a) Sherman Filterbank v1 or v2
b) Mutronics Mutator
c) Akai MFC42
d) Electrix Filter Queen or Filter Factory
e) MoogerFooger MF-101

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a) Sherman Filterbank v1 or v2

Can totally fuck up your sound. In a good, harsh way, if you know what
I mean?

Wouldn't use it as a generic filterbank and if you are planning on
running it over the top of your MnM...... you may like it, you may not.

Just sold my v1 Sherman as I'm only doing live stuff at the moment and
I wouldn't take it near a sound system.

Capacity to be very, very evil!

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b) Mutronics Mutator

Another sweet unit, I've used one a few times, sadly never owned one.

Like the Sherman, good and pure quality.

Down to personal taste between the Sherman & Mutator.  I guess the
Mutator is a little less harsh.

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c) Akai MFC42

I've got one of these, unfortunatly off at the Doktors at the moment.

I'm really quite fond of it, 2ru and lots of knobs to twiddle.

Good sound to it for me and works great for generic type stuff, run
drums through it and take it out live no problems.

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d) Electrix Filter Queen or Filter Factory

I've had a play a few times, preferred the sound of the Akai, but
thats just me...

I'll let an owner give an opinon.

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e) MoogerFooger MF-101

No Comment.  Haven't used one more then playing around with it a few
times. Sounded cool, but can't really give an opinon on it.

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>> I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what
do you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman
filterbank 2... or should I get both?

Two different beasts... I used to have both of them till a short while
ago.  

Sherman good for fucking shit up, Akai good for more generic filter work.

I think the Akai is more better suited for live work, the Sherman for
the studio.

Given a choice, I'd have both... depends what kind of music you do and
what you want out of your filterbank really.

Just my 2c's worth......

Best,
Rusty

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "finite_sf" <finite_sf@y...> wrote:
> 
> I am super glad that I now own one! The MnM rocks, and I can't wait to
> get it hooked up to either a 	Sherman Filterbank 2, or a Akai MFC42
> Analog filter.
> 
> I just found a Akai MFC42... have any of you used one... if so what do
> you think of the unit. Should I just save up for a Sherman Filterbank
> 2... or should I get both?
> 
> 
> -Micah
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, niall munnelly <aleph@a...>
wrote:

> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Christopher Mitchell wrote:
> > > 
> > > so here's to the 500 sfx-6 and as many sfx-60s as are out there as
> well.
> > 
> > iirc, there are nearly 1200 users on this list.
> > 
> > that's wicked.  i wonder how many units are out there.
> > 
> > -- 
> > yours,
> > niall.
> > .. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .           
>      .
> > aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around
> silence.
> > http://syncretism.net
> > .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Well I was thinking the same layout of the Access Virus Indigo/TI 
here.  Both have 37 keys.  The joystick would take the place of where 
the mod wheels on the Virus are placed, with the main unit dead 
center.  Shouldn't be any bigger than that.  But if I remember 
correctly from the SoundonSound article, Elektron were tired of this 
layout and thought it'd be cool to allow two people to play the SFX6 
simultaneously.  One playing the keyboard, while one tweaks the 
controls.  Still cool, just targeted more at the live 
musician/performance perhaps than the studio musician.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Mitchell 
<chrism@l...> wrote:
> using the form factor they already established for the MD, where 
would 
> they have put the keyboard below the synth layout? it would have 
been 

> deeper than (eg) an SH-101 and would have had an awful center of 
> gravity.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2005, at 10:22 AM, monads wrote:

On 2/8/05 2:12 PM, "monads" wrote:

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> 
> Well I was thinking the same layout of the Access Virus Indigo/TI
> here.  Both have 37 keys.  The joystick would take the place of where
> the mod wheels on the Virus are placed, with the main unit dead
> center.  Shouldn't be any bigger than that.  But if I remember
> correctly from the SoundonSound article, Elektron were tired of this
> layout and thought it'd be cool to allow two people to play the SFX6
> simultaneously.  One playing the keyboard, while one tweaks the
> controls.  Still cool, just targeted more at the live
> musician/performance perhaps than the studio musician.
> 

And it's interesting to look at the mnm concepts with the little flyer they
include with it. The sh-101 type would have been cool. But I like it as is.

That would be awesome... or how about a stand alone midi keyboard,
with joystick, and 32 track MIDI sequencer? I love the user interface
and ease of programing these boxes. 


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:

> What I would really like to see is a standalone joystick, manufactured 
> by Elektron, for use with the SFX-60.
> 
> /Scott
> 
> Christopher Mitchell wrote:
> 
> >yep.. i agree with Scott's take on this, as well.. clearly they aren't 
> >making it limited because suddenly they aren't proud as heck of their 
> >long silver creation. :)  The best thing that happened to me all year 
> >was being "stuck with that monomachine" when I moved overseas.  Having 
> >come back early and it never selling, I get to actually use it..  Did 
> >have to replace the MD though.
> >
> >Chris
> >On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:08 AM, niall munnelly wrote:
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> >>On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:04:54PM -0500, Scott Kellogg wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I disagree.  I think 'obnoxious' in this context means 'bucking
> >>>traditional designs and industry trends'.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>that's certainly elektron's strength, and why their premium
> >>prices are worth it.
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>yours,
> >>niall.
> >>.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .         
     
> >>  .
> >>aleph null.                             a simple insinuation around 
> >>silence.
> >>http://syncretism.net
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a standalone midi sequencer with or without keyboard would be cool. an 
expanded version of what we already have, without any synth guts.

Chris

On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:05 PM, finite_sf wrote:

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> That would be awesome... or how about a stand alone midi keyboard,
> with joystick, and 32 track MIDI sequencer? I love the user interface
> and ease of programing these boxes.
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> 
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>> What I would really like to see is a standalone joystick, manufactured
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search on these forums as there's a few companies who make standalone
joysticks that looked alright.

i don't get why they're making it limited??.... the sidstation is much
older and they're still selling it. I don't think it's cause they
aren't happy with it anymore.

I guess it's good for us though - as long as they keep supporting it.

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:31:34 -0500, Scott Kellogg <glaive@...> wrote:
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> What I would really like to see is a standalone joystick, manufactured
> by Elektron, for use with the SFX-60.
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> Christopher Mitchell wrote:
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> >yep.. i agree with Scott's take on this, as well.. clearly they aren't
> >making it limited because suddenly they aren't proud as heck of their
> >long silver creation. :)  The best thing that happened to me all year
> >was being "stuck with that monomachine" when I moved overseas.  Having
> >come back early and it never selling, I get to actually use it..  Did
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> >On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:08 AM, niall munnelly wrote:
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--- Jared Telling <jared.telling@...> wrote: 

Answer:---------------------------------
1. the sidstation is already a long time out of stock!
2. the sfx-6 is only limited the sfx-60 will still be
sold!
2. they will therefor still support it!


(i don't get why they're making it limited??.... the
sidstation is much older and they're still selling it.
I don't think it's cause they
aren't happy with it anymore.
I guess it's good for us though - as long as they keep
supporting it.)




	
	
		
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> i don't get why they're making it limited??.... the sidstation is much
> older and they're still selling it.

No, the Sidstation has been discontinued long time ago.

Probably there isn't enough demand for the keyboard version of the 
Monomachine.

oh ok cool - gotcha - i didnt understand....thanks! ;-)


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:06:04 +0000 (GMT), kevin de winter
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> --- Jared Telling <jared.telling@...> wrote:
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> Answer:---------------------------------
> 1. the sidstation is already a long time out of stock!
> 2. the sfx-6 is only limited the sfx-60 will still be
> sold!
> 2. they will therefor still support it!
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> (i don't get why they're making it limited??.... the
> sidstation is much older and they're still selling it.
> I don't think it's cause they
> aren't happy with it anymore.
> I guess it's good for us though - as long as they keep
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