Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi everyone
I have a monomachine sfx 60 
My problem is the following:
Imagine that I start playing the pattern A01 with kit 01 THE FUTURE. Then I modify the 
sythesis parameters of track 1 and add some notes on track 3 using grid composing. Now 
my pattern plays different from the original one. I don't save but I simply change pattern 
pressing trig A02.
Patter A02 plays with kit 02 SUPERWAVE. I make some changes in this pattern too, 
changing both track 2 and track 6 in the filter and adding some notes with grid 
composing. This pattern sounds different form its original one. Then I change back to 
pattern A01. I note that all the changes I made in pattern A01, that I didn't save, are still 
present, but I need the original pattern, and, in order to get it back, I have to delete all the 
notes I added previously in the grid, and to turn back all the sythesis parameters to its 
original position.
I tried to call back the original parameters and notes reloading the kit 01 THE FUTURE 
(pressing KIT SONG SETUP/LOAD/01-THE FUTURE), but the pattern is still modified.
Another way to get the original pattern back is to recall a factory reset. I think it's too 
much.

This means that a pattern accidentally modified can't be restored without a factory reset, 
or that is impossibile to play monomachine live, because I can't have back my original 
pattern.

Please, let me know where I mistake.

I wait your kind answer

F.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 06:49:15PM -0000, xtesi04x wrote:

> This means that a pattern accidentally modified can't be restored without a factory reset, 
> or that is impossibile to play monomachine live, because I can't have back my original 
> pattern.
> 
> Please, let me know where I mistake.

you've made no mistake.  all sequence-changes to the
machinedrum and monomachine are live and permanent.  if you
want to work with a pattern but not overwrite it, you'll
have to copy it to a new one, first.

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>
> you've made no mistake.  all sequence-changes to the
> machinedrum and monomachine are live and permanent.  if you
>

IMO, the philosophy at work here is that you are able to create 
interesting variations of your patterns live, on the fly.  One way you 
can back up your patterns is to send them to the computer as sysex 
dumps.  That way, you can load the original pattern long after you have 
tweaked 'em beyond recognition.

/Scott

On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:40 PM, niall munnelly wrote:

>  you've made no mistake.  all sequence-changes to the
>  machinedrum and monomachine are live and permanent.  if you
>  want to work with a pattern but not overwrite it, you'll
>  have to copy it to a new one, first.

this is correct.  *pattern* changes are all live and permanent.  
there's no notion
of a temporary "unsaved" pattern.  just like using a 808/909/606, IIRC. 
  however,
kit changes DO need to be saved.  if you change a kit and like how it 
sounds
but then change to another kit without saving, you will lose the 
previous kit (in
the MnM at least; the MD keeps an "undo" kit for undoing this action).

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Thank you very much for your answers.

But now, could you suggest me a valid setup for my live.
When I play I start from a pattern then start making changes of 
different kinds.
Then I have to call back the original pattern, without stopping the 
current pattern. During live set I have my laptop too.
What do you suggest?

F.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "xtesi04x" <xtesi04x@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi everyone
> I have a monomachine sfx 60 
> My problem is the following:
> Imagine that I start playing the pattern A01 with kit 01 THE FUTURE. 
Then I modify the 
> sythesis parameters of track 1 and add some notes on track 3 using 
grid composing. Now 
> my pattern plays different from the original one. I don't save but I 
simply change pattern 
> pressing trig A02.
> Patter A02 plays with kit 02 SUPERWAVE. I make some changes in this 
pattern too, 
> changing both track 2 and track 6 in the filter and adding some 
notes with grid 
> composing. This pattern sounds different form its original one. Then 
I change back to 
> pattern A01. I note that all the changes I made in pattern A01, that 
I didn't save, are still 
> present, but I need the original pattern, and, in order to get it 
back, I have to delete all the 
> notes I added previously in the grid, and to turn back all the 
sythesis parameters to its 
> original position.
> I tried to call back the original parameters and notes reloading the 
kit 01 THE FUTURE 
> (pressing KIT SONG SETUP/LOAD/01-THE FUTURE), but the pattern is 
still modified.
> Another way to get the original pattern back is to recall a factory 
reset. I think it's too 
> much.
> 
> This means that a pattern accidentally modified can't be restored 
without a factory reset, 
> or that is impossibile to play monomachine live, because I can't 
have back my original 

> pattern.
> 
> Please, let me know where I mistake.
> 
> I wait your kind answer
> 
> F.

Il giorno 26/apr/05, alle 10:56, xxtesi04xx ha scritto:

>
> Thank you very much for your answers.
>
> But now, could you suggest me a valid setup for my live.
> When I play I start from a pattern then start making changes of
> different kinds.
> Then I have to call back the original pattern, without stopping the
> current pattern. During live set I have my laptop too.
> What do you suggest?
>
> F.
>

Hi!!

I suggest you edit copies of the original pattern.

Start playing with the original, copy and switch to the copy, edit, 
then go back to the first one.

ciao
Federico

hmmm... maybe this could be a wish-list option?  a 'performance-play'
mode that will not save anything you do (sequence or sound),
initialized by holding the function key when pressing play.  this
would be nice.

if you are just tweaking the sounds and not any of the sequence
parameters or locks you can just reload the kit while you are playing
and it will bring you back to your starting point.

On 4/29/05, Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@...> wrote:
>  Il giorno 26/apr/05, alle 10:56, xxtesi04xx ha scritto:
>  
>  >
>  > Thank you very much for your answers.
>  >
>  > But now, could you suggest me a valid setup for my live.
>  > When I play I start from a pattern then start making changes of
>  > different kinds.
>  > Then I have to call back the original pattern, without stopping the
>  > current pattern. During live set I have my laptop too.
>  > What do you suggest?
>  >
>  > F.
>  >
>  
>  Hi!!
>  
>  I suggest you edit copies of the original pattern.
>  
>  Start playing with the original, copy and switch to the copy, edit, 
>  then go back to the first one.
>  
>  ciao
>  Federico
>  
>  
>  
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