Elektron Musical Instruments

Hey guys, has it ever happened to any of you that you are programming midi
seq tracks and you can see the events there but they do not get played any
longer?

I copied one midi track to another, and suddenly it stopped sending midi
events via the sequencer.  I could, however, still trigger midi notes via
the keyboard.

This only seems to affect this pattern... If I create a new pattern and
put in a midi seq track, the events are sent.

Odd!
chrism

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, chrism@l... wrote:
> Hey guys, has it ever happened to any of you that you are
programming midi
> seq tracks and you can see the events there but they do not get
played any
> longer?

Howdy,

yes, I know of this problem too. It appeared to me first in OS 1.04.
There are several things which make this problem appear :
 - make patterns 2 or 4 measures long, it never appeared to me with 1
measure long patterns
 - use many parameter locks, the more, the faster the bug appears

It manifests in this way :
 - you still can see the note-events, the parameter locks, just
everything
 - the notes wont be played for this track in the pattern anymore
 - no way of clearing the notes, they just wont disappear

Clearing the track or pattern is the only way of making it work again.

Since Im playing live, with the MnM as the center of my live-setup,
this problem is a pain in the a***. My last gig was played with 1
measure patterns only, since this is the only way of avoiding this bug
which I know of.

It didnt disappeared with OS 1.05. The latest OS 1.05b has still to be
tested. But since this bug wasnt mentioned in the readme files, I have
no hope...

@Daniel:
Sorry, but this kind of gear is just too expensive to be instable like
this. The MIDI-Part of the MnM was rock solid over the early releases
of the firmware. But since 1.04 I have no confidence into this
machine. Im somewhat disappointed......

regards,
Stefan

hey does somedody found out to get cheap rackmounts for the monomachine 
and the machinedrum in europe ?
stefan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "anlageberater69" <shurst@h...>
wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, chrism@l... wrote:
> > Hey guys, has it ever happened to any of you that you are
> programming midi
> > seq tracks and you can see the events there but they do not get
> played any
> > longer?
> 
> @Daniel:
> Sorry, but this kind of gear is just too expensive to be instable like
> this. The MIDI-Part of the MnM was rock solid over the early releases
> of the firmware. But since 1.04 I have no confidence into this
> machine. Im somewhat disappointed......

The Machinedrum and the Monomachine are complex creatures, and we have
continued to develop them over time. With each new feature there is a
risk of introducing a bug. That's why we like to stay in beta a while
after adding features to be sure we have ironed out eventual bugs.

We test all new OS versions extensively and use them ourselves, but we
can never foresee all different scenarios, we will always need
feedback to get all parts work perfectly.

We can never fix a bug unless we know how to reproduce it. Because
without being able to reproduce it we can't know if it fixed. We
didn't receive any reports on problems with the MIDI machines until
after a long time after releasing OS 1.05, and when we did they didn't
get enough info to reproduce them.

Now we have, and now we have fixed them. We will release a new OS for
the Monomachince soon. But who knows, maybe there is some new bug in
there? We can never guarantee anything because people use the gear in
a milion different ways. The only thing we can do is to try and fix
them when we get enough information about them. And rumours floating
around the mailing list isn't the same as a known bug to us. We need
to get a specific report to support@elektron to get it into our bug
fix que.

Daniel

> them when we get enough information about them. And rumours floating
> around the mailing list isn't the same as a known bug to us. We need
> to get a specific report to support@elektron to get it into our bug
> fix que.


Also, setting up a thread at elektron-users.com about a particular  
bug is a good way to keep it visible, since I can set it up as a  
sticky thread that stays at the head of the list of posts.  I am  
happy to attempt to reproduce any Monomachine bug on the that is  
posted (in detail) either here or at the website.  Several others  
(Dieter, Joe, Bart, etc.) can attempt to reproduce the MD/UW bugs.

I want to know why the heck I'm frequently getting flashing green  
LEDs which go away after I reboot the Mono, but I don't know the  
steps I took to get them there ...  anyway, I'll figure it out soon  
and post my results.

/Scott

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:

> Also, setting up a thread at elektron-users.com about a particular  
> bug is a good way to keep it visible, since I can set it up as a

Sorry Scott, but Im not able to register at elektron-users since the
beginning...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:

> Also, setting up a thread at elektron-users.com about a particular  
> bug is a good way to keep it visible, since I can set it up as a  
> sticky thread that stays at the head of the list of posts.  I am  
> happy to attempt to reproduce any Monomachine bug on the that is  
> posted (in detail) either here or at the website.  Several others  
> (Dieter, Joe, Bart, etc.) can attempt to reproduce the MD/UW bugs.

That's excellent. If people can cooperate in trying to reproduce
eventual bugs and compile verified lists we can get around fixing
stuff much easier!

> I want to know why the heck I'm frequently getting flashing green  
> LEDs which go away after I reboot the Mono, but I don't know the  
> steps I took to get them there ...  anyway, I'll figure it out soon  
> and post my results.

Ah, that's "ghost locks". :) Shouldn't be able to produce, but I know
I've managed sometimes as well. They aren't dangerous, it's a lock
without any trig associated, but it wasn't marked as a trigless trig
for some reason. Could indicate a problem with some function writing
(semi-)randomly in the memory though... Keep looking!

Daniel

What?  That's crazy talk!  Please send me private email and we will  
get this sorted out.

On Jun 27, 2005, at 3:38 PM, anlageberater69 wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...>  
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--
"Whenever a new musical technology appears, new forms of music follow  
it."
- Brian Eno

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> Ah, that's "ghost locks". :) Shouldn't be able to produce, but I know
> I've managed sometimes as well. They aren't dangerous, it's a lock
>

Ghost Locks, indeed!  I wonder if this is something that happens on  
some machines and not others.

/Scott

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:

> > Ah, that's "ghost locks". :) Shouldn't be able to produce, but I know
> > I've managed sometimes as well. They aren't dangerous, it's a lock
> 
> Ghost Locks, indeed!  I wonder if this is something that happens on  
> some machines and not others.

I wouldn't think so. Ghost in the software-shell is my guess.

Daniel

On 6/27/05 5:33 PM, "daniel_elektron" wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
> 
>>> Ah, that's "ghost locks". :) Shouldn't be able to produce, but I know
>>> I've managed sometimes as well. They aren't dangerous, it's a lock
>> 
>> Ghost Locks, indeed!  I wonder if this is something that happens on
>> some machines and not others.
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> I wouldn't think so. Ghost in the software-shell is my guess.
> 
> Daniel

So Elvis for the MD, and now Ghost in the Shell for MnM ;)

On Jun 27, 2005, at 5:05 PM, daniel_elektron wrote:

> Ah, that's "ghost locks". :)

I hear there's all kinds of ghost locks in these parts....

sorry......  but any simpsons fan will appreciate that one :-)