Elektron Musical Instruments

I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has got my 
attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is this:  
will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my budget 
to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features in the 
future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  Maybe 
this combo is enough??
-grimley

Elektron recently said they are not sure how long they can offer  
upgrades due to how labor intensive it is for their service folk.   
I'd not count on it being around for long...

On Jul 4, 2005, at 2:17 AM, Justin Grimley wrote:

> I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has got my
> attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is this:
> will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my budget
> to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features in the
> future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  Maybe
> this combo is enough??
> -grimley
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Not to mention it is a pain in the arse to send your
machine away and all that.  

--- damon <damon@...> wrote:

> Elektron recently said they are not sure how long
> they can offer  
> upgrades due to how labor intensive it is for their
> service folk.   
> I'd not count on it being around for long...
> 
> On Jul 4, 2005, at 2:17 AM, Justin Grimley wrote:
> 
> > I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but
> the UW has got my
> > attention now after listening to the demos.  My
> question is this:
> > will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm
> stretching my budget
> > to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the
> UW features in the
> > future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a
> Korg ESX.  Maybe
> > this combo is enough??
> > -grimley
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...> 
wrote:
> I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has got my 
> attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is this:  
> will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my budget 
> to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features in the 
> future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  Maybe 
> this combo is enough??
> -grimley

I've got an ESX and its a great machine for sampling and mangling of 
samples by motion sequences. The UW however is more then that, for 
instance the sound of the MD is so much detailed and dynamic then the 
ESX. I'm at the point of selling my ESX because it does'n't have the 
sound quality I like so much of the Elektrons.

So, if your totally pleased with your ESX, I guess the investment is a 
bit high and maybe not neccesary. But be warned!!! Once you've become 
used to the MD sound, your ESX may become a bit less favourable...

Ronald.

Damn ... not the answers I wanted to hear ... but probably the 
answers I expected!
Thanks for the quick responses.  Two more quickies:

When it comes to which machine is more fun, the MM or the MD, what 
is the general concensus here?  Ideally I'd like to have both so I 
guess the question could be worded "which one do I get first?"

Where is the cheapest place to buy them (apart from eBay).

Thanks,
grimley


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <Roonan@p...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
<grimley@i...> 
> wrote:
> > I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has 
got my 
> > attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is 
this:  
> > will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my 
budget 
> > to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features 
in the 
> > future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  
Maybe 
> > this combo is enough??
> > -grimley
> 
> I've got an ESX and its a great machine for sampling and mangling 
of 
> samples by motion sequences. The UW however is more then that, for 
> instance the sound of the MD is so much detailed and dynamic then 
the 
> ESX. I'm at the point of selling my ESX because it does'n't have 
the 
> sound quality I like so much of the Elektrons.
> 
> So, if your totally pleased with your ESX, I guess the investment 
is a 
> bit high and maybe not neccesary. But be warned!!! Once you've 
become 

> used to the MD sound, your ESX may become a bit less favourable...
> 
> Ronald.

On Jul 4, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Justin Grimley wrote:

> Damn ... not the answers I wanted to hear ... but probably the
> answers I expected!

I would suggest the UW if you can swing it.  you'll love it!  and  
it's best to just get it
now and get it over with so that you don't have to go through the  
pain of being apart
from your MD for a few weeks (if they don't discontinue the upgrade,  
that is).

> When it comes to which machine is more fun, the MM or the MD, what
> is the general concensus here?  Ideally I'd like to have both so I
> guess the question could be worded "which one do I get first?"

depends which one you need more, man.  if  you need drums then get  
the MD first.
otherwise go for the MnM.  they're both a LOT of fun and are  
incredibly good at
what they do.  which one you get first just depends upon what you  
need first.

> Where is the cheapest place to buy them (apart from eBay).

eBay.  :-)  no, the price should be pretty much the same regardless  
of whether you
order direct or order from a retailer.  you'll probably only see at  
most a $50
difference between retailers.  and even on eBay, you'll likely only  
save yourself
$100 and you won't get the 10-day return policy or 1-year guarantee  
that comes
with a new unit.

When I received my MD-UW I didn\ufffdt really expect much.
When I tried it out it immediately showed me that this is a new Diamond 
in my setup.

First thoughts I had when I heard about it:
1. Sampler, nice, but do I need it?
2. Only 32 Samples that\ufffds not very much
3. Midi transfer? Oh man.
4. Will it sound good?

These are the answers:
1. I have been working mostly with samples since a few years.
The UW is really a new way of working with samples.
The samples really come to life, because it is so easy and fast to 
change the parameters and it is so much fun.

2. I loaded 16 samples into the Machine, to fill one set.
I was playing around for 3 hours, I forgot to eat, drink and smoke.
And still I had the feeling I could make another 4 Songs out of these 
samples. Of course it is a limitation to have only 32 Samples, but you 
don\ufffdt really feel it. The only thing you feel is that it is exactly this 
limitation that will bring you to new results and stop you from spending 
your time on bullshit.

3. Midi transfer is no problem because you can transfer all 32 Samples 
at one time. It doesn\ufffdt even take much time because you mostly use short 
samples. To transfer 32 samples might take 5 minutes, ok.

4. I was really surprised by the sound. The samples sound more crispy 
and dynamic when they come out of the MD than when you hear them on your 
computer. What is that about, how did they do it?


I can\ufffdt help myself, I just think it\ufffds phantastic.
Roland, Yamaha, Akai and all other companies finally can close their 
business now, they have fooled us for too long anyway.


best greetings
Flo


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Flo Zombie <newsgroups@z...> 
wrote:
> ...
> ...
> ...
> I can´t help myself, I just think it´s phantastic.
> Roland, Yamaha, Akai and all other companies finally can close their 
> business now, they have fooled us for too long anyway.
>  
> best greetings
> Flo

Thanks for the great mini-review. I'm really curious to hear the 
crispy and dynamic sound engine myself. Great to hear also that 32 
sample limitation isn't a show-stopper; rather the opposite. I'll be 
getting my upgraded MD friday. Cant wait!!!

Toni.

I'm thinking I may (maybe) want to trade my
Monomachine for a Machinedrum in the near future.  My
Monomachine is mint and comes with all the original
documents and box.  I live in Jersey City, NJ USA.

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wow, what a positive endorsement!  I'm definately anxious (in a good 
way) for my upgrade!

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Flo Zombie <newsgroups@z...> 
wrote:
> 
> When I received my MD-UW I didn´t really expect much.
> When I tried it out it immediately showed me that this is a new 
Diamond 
> in my setup.
> 
> First thoughts I had when I heard about it:
> 1. Sampler, nice, but do I need it?
> 2. Only 32 Samples that´s not very much
> 3. Midi transfer? Oh man.
> 4. Will it sound good?
> 
> These are the answers:
> 1. I have been working mostly with samples since a few years.
> The UW is really a new way of working with samples.
> The samples really come to life, because it is so easy and fast to 
> change the parameters and it is so much fun.
> 
> 2. I loaded 16 samples into the Machine, to fill one set.
> I was playing around for 3 hours, I forgot to eat, drink and smoke.
> And still I had the feeling I could make another 4 Songs out of 
these 
> samples. Of course it is a limitation to have only 32 Samples, but 
you 
> don´t really feel it. The only thing you feel is that it is exactly 
this 
> limitation that will bring you to new results and stop you from 
spending 
> your time on bullshit.
> 
> 3. Midi transfer is no problem because you can transfer all 32 
Samples 
> at one time. It doesn´t even take much time because you mostly use 
short 
> samples. To transfer 32 samples might take 5 minutes, ok.
> 
> 4. I was really surprised by the sound. The samples sound more 
crispy 
> and dynamic when they come out of the MD than when you hear them on 
your 
> computer. What is that about, how did they do it?
> 
> 
> I can´t help myself, I just think it´s phantastic.
> Roland, Yamaha, Akai and all other companies finally can close 
their 
> business now, they have fooled us for too long anyway.
> 
> 
> best greetings
> Flo
> 
> 
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hey i want to sell my amchinedrum for 950,- from berlin germany
stefan

where's the soundclips!? :)

peace

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Flo Zombie <newsgroups@z...> wrote:
> 
> When I received my MD-UW I didn´t really expect much.
> When I tried it out it immediately showed me that this is a new Diamond 
> in my setup.
> 
> First thoughts I had when I heard about it:
> 1. Sampler, nice, but do I need it?
> 2. Only 32 Samples that´s not very much
> 3. Midi transfer? Oh man.
> 4. Will it sound good?
> 
> These are the answers:
> 1. I have been working mostly with samples since a few years.
> The UW is really a new way of working with samples.
> The samples really come to life, because it is so easy and fast to 
> change the parameters and it is so much fun.
> 
> 2. I loaded 16 samples into the Machine, to fill one set.
> I was playing around for 3 hours, I forgot to eat, drink and smoke.
> And still I had the feeling I could make another 4 Songs out of these 
> samples. Of course it is a limitation to have only 32 Samples, but you 
> don´t really feel it. The only thing you feel is that it is exactly
this 
> limitation that will bring you to new results and stop you from
spending 
> your time on bullshit.
> 
> 3. Midi transfer is no problem because you can transfer all 32 Samples 
> at one time. It doesn´t even take much time because you mostly use
short 
> samples. To transfer 32 samples might take 5 minutes, ok.
> 
> 4. I was really surprised by the sound. The samples sound more crispy 
> and dynamic when they come out of the MD than when you hear them on
your 

> computer. What is that about, how did they do it?
> 
> 
> I can´t help myself, I just think it´s phantastic.
> Roland, Yamaha, Akai and all other companies finally can close their 
> business now, they have fooled us for too long anyway.
> 
> 
> best greetings
> Flo
> 
> 
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Well I can't find an original MD in stock anywhere (not even 
Elektron).  So I'm tempted my the UW now.  $1600 at NovaMusik (hot 
damn)!  Anyone seen it cheaper?
-g

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
<grimley@i...> wrote:
> Damn ... not the answers I wanted to hear ... but probably the 
> answers I expected!
> Thanks for the quick responses.  Two more quickies:
> 
> When it comes to which machine is more fun, the MM or the MD, what 
> is the general concensus here?  Ideally I'd like to have both so I 
> guess the question could be worded "which one do I get first?"
> 
> Where is the cheapest place to buy them (apart from eBay).
> 
> Thanks,
> grimley
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <Roonan@p...> 
wrote:
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
> <grimley@i...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has 
> got my 
> > > attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is 
> this:  
> > > will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my 
> budget 
> > > to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features 
> in the 
> > > future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  
> Maybe 
> > > this combo is enough??
> > > -grimley
> > 
> > I've got an ESX and its a great machine for sampling and 
mangling 
> of 
> > samples by motion sequences. The UW however is more then that, 
for 
> > instance the sound of the MD is so much detailed and dynamic 
then 
> the 
> > ESX. I'm at the point of selling my ESX because it does'n't have 
> the 
> > sound quality I like so much of the Elektrons.
> > 
> > So, if your totally pleased with your ESX, I guess the 
investment 
> is a 
> > bit high and maybe not neccesary. But be warned!!! Once you've 
> become 
> > used to the MD sound, your ESX may become a bit less 
favourable...
> > 
> > Ronald.

I guess there is a some sort of waiting list for UW's at elektron. 
You leave your mail-address and they notify you when there is more 
UW's coming. I've understood that they don't actually reserve UW's 
for people, but they notify them. You could sign to this list, so 
that you will at least get a notice when UW's are coming.

Toni.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
<grimley@i...> wrote:
> Well I can't find an original MD in stock anywhere (not even 
> Elektron).  So I'm tempted my the UW now.  $1600 at NovaMusik (hot 
> damn)!  Anyone seen it cheaper?
> -g
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
> <grimley@i...> wrote:
> > Damn ... not the answers I wanted to hear ... but probably the 
> > answers I expected!
> > Thanks for the quick responses.  Two more quickies:
> > 
> > When it comes to which machine is more fun, the MM or the MD, 
what 
> > is the general concensus here?  Ideally I'd like to have both so 
I 
> > guess the question could be worded "which one do I get first?"
> > 
> > Where is the cheapest place to buy them (apart from eBay).
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > grimley
> > 
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <Roonan@p...> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
> > <grimley@i...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has 
> > got my 
> > > > attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is 
> > this:  
> > > > will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my 
> > budget 
> > > > to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW 
features 
> > in the 
> > > > future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  
> > Maybe 
> > > > this combo is enough??
> > > > -grimley
> > > 
> > > I've got an ESX and its a great machine for sampling and 
> mangling 
> > of 
> > > samples by motion sequences. The UW however is more then that, 
> for 
> > > instance the sound of the MD is so much detailed and dynamic 
> then 
> > the 
> > > ESX. I'm at the point of selling my ESX because it does'n't 
have 

> > the 
> > > sound quality I like so much of the Elektrons.
> > > 
> > > So, if your totally pleased with your ESX, I guess the 
> investment 
> > is a 
> > > bit high and maybe not neccesary. But be warned!!! Once you've 
> > become 
> > > used to the MD sound, your ESX may become a bit less 
> favourable...
> > > 
> > > Ronald.

http://www.analoguehaven.com/elektron/machinedrum/

Thats where I got mine from....

Original, in stock.....

Tell em i sent you too, maybe they'll gimme a coupon, lol


mike


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
wrote:

> Well I can't find an original MD in stock anywhere (not even 
> Elektron).  So I'm tempted my the UW now.  $1600 at NovaMusik (hot 
> damn)!  Anyone seen it cheaper?
> -g
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
> <grimley@i...> wrote:
> > Damn ... not the answers I wanted to hear ... but probably the 
> > answers I expected!
> > Thanks for the quick responses.  Two more quickies:
> > 
> > When it comes to which machine is more fun, the MM or the MD, what 
> > is the general concensus here?  Ideally I'd like to have both so I 
> > guess the question could be worded "which one do I get first?"
> > 
> > Where is the cheapest place to buy them (apart from eBay).
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > grimley
> > 
> > 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Roonan" <Roonan@p...> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Grimley" 
> > <grimley@i...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm just about ready to purchase a MachineDrum but the UW has 
> > got my 
> > > > attention now after listening to the demos.  My question is 
> > this:  
> > > > will the upgrade path always be available?  I'm stretching my 
> > budget 
> > > > to the limits as is and was hoping I could add the UW features 
> > in the 
> > > > future.  For now I'll be using the MD alongside a Korg ESX.  
> > Maybe 
> > > > this combo is enough??
> > > > -grimley
> > > 
> > > I've got an ESX and its a great machine for sampling and 
> mangling 
> > of 
> > > samples by motion sequences. The UW however is more then that, 
> for 
> > > instance the sound of the MD is so much detailed and dynamic 
> then 
> > the 
> > > ESX. I'm at the point of selling my ESX because it does'n't have 
> > the 
> > > sound quality I like so much of the Elektrons.
> > > 
> > > So, if your totally pleased with your ESX, I guess the 
> investment 
> > is a 
> > > bit high and maybe not neccesary. But be warned!!! Once you've 
> > become 
> > > used to the MD sound, your ESX may become a bit less 
> favourable...
> > > 
> > > Ronald.