Elektron Musical Instruments

on the monomachine if you have more than 16 steps, but less than say
32, the scale doesn't split the steps evenly between the pages (as you
get on the korg drummy boxes).

is the machine drum the same deal? 24 steps means 16 on the first page
and 8 on the next? or will the machinedrum pleasure you with an easy
12 steps on each page?

thanks for any info!
j.0rdan

On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:31:52PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
> is the machine drum the same deal? 24 steps means 16 on the first page
> and 8 on the next? or will the machinedrum pleasure you with an easy
> 12 steps on each page?

that makes a lot of musica assumptions that i'd rather
elektron didn't make {they make enough as it is}.  the MD
will give you 16 on the first and 8 on the next, sorry.


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This is how the RS7000 works, as well.  I like this way.  Dividing  
things up into 12 steps per page would be rude of the machine.  What  
if I'm working in 7/4 rather than triplets?

On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:44 PM, niall munnelly wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:31:52PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
>> is the machine drum the same deal? 24 steps means 16 on the first  
>> page
>> and 8 on the next? or will the machinedrum pleasure you with an easy
>> 12 steps on each page?
>
> that makes a lot of musica assumptions that i'd rather
> elektron didn't make {they make enough as it is}.  the MD
> will give you 16 on the first and 8 on the next, sorry.
>
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> On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:44 PM, niall munnelly wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:31:52PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
> >> is the machine drum the same deal? 24 steps means 16 on the first  
> >> page
> >> and 8 on the next? or will the machinedrum pleasure you with an easy
> >> 12 steps on each page?
> >

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
>
> This is how the RS7000 works, as well.  I like this way.  Dividing  
> things up into 12 steps per page would be rude of the machine.  What  
> if I'm working in 7/4 rather than triplets?
> 

i understand the reasoning why this behavior is preferable in some cases.

however, i find it very nice for working on beats when the two pages
look the same ... 12 steps each or what not. 

it's too bad the behavior can't be toggled, i find the way it works
now anoying on my monomachine so i'm always using the full 64 steps
and grab my gameboy (lsdj) or er-1 when i want to get my triplets on.

i can imagine a very cool way for it to work: you get to choose the
number of steps in each page of the scale. that way you can set it up
to work the way you guys like (set 16 steps in the first page, 8 in
the next) or the way i like (set 12 steps in each page). wouldn't that
be hot, and ultimately more versitle?

for now ... i suppose to get behavior closer to what i would like i'll
have to get familiar with the song mode, we'll see how switching too
and from that goes.

thanks for the quick answers!

<3
j.0rdan

p.s. speaking of interfaces, has anyone noticed how horrid
groups.yahoo.com's search feature is? for a site born out of a search
engine it's very disapointing and nearly impossible to use.

You raise an interesting point about the triplets -- the Monomachine
sequencer doesn't have the ability to handle them.  You can fake it by
using the arpeggiator in SID mode, though.

On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:33:43PM GMT, starpawz612 [starpawz612@...] said the following:

> > On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:44 PM, niall munnelly wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:31:52PM -0000, starpawz612 wrote:
> > >> is the machine drum the same deal? 24 steps means 16 on the first  
> > >> page
> > >> and 8 on the next? or will the machinedrum pleasure you with an easy
> > >> 12 steps on each page?
> > >
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
> >
> > This is how the RS7000 works, as well.  I like this way.  Dividing  
> > things up into 12 steps per page would be rude of the machine.  What  
> > if I'm working in 7/4 rather than triplets?
> > 
> 
> i understand the reasoning why this behavior is preferable in some cases.
> 
> however, i find it very nice for working on beats when the two pages
> look the same ... 12 steps each or what not. 
> 
> it's too bad the behavior can't be toggled, i find the way it works
> now anoying on my monomachine so i'm always using the full 64 steps
> and grab my gameboy (lsdj) or er-1 when i want to get my triplets on.
> 
> i can imagine a very cool way for it to work: you get to choose the
> number of steps in each page of the scale. that way you can set it up
> to work the way you guys like (set 16 steps in the first page, 8 in
> the next) or the way i like (set 12 steps in each page). wouldn't that
> be hot, and ultimately more versitle?
> 
> for now ... i suppose to get behavior closer to what i would like i'll
> have to get familiar with the song mode, we'll see how switching too
> and from that goes.
> 
> thanks for the quick answers!
> 
> <3
> j.0rdan
> 
> p.s. speaking of interfaces, has anyone noticed how horrid
> groups.yahoo.com's search feature is? for a site born out of a search
> engine it's very disapointing and nearly impossible to use.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kellogg <glaive@g...> wrote:
>
> You raise an interesting point about the triplets -- the Monomachine
> sequencer doesn't have the ability to handle them.  You can fake it by
> using the arpeggiator in SID mode, though.
> 

it does triplets fine, they're just tough to visualize if you've got
more than 12 steps to your pattern =)

but my question remains, is there anything uncool about my vision of
how setting up the scale/steps could work ... 

> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:33:43PM GMT, starpawz612
[starpawz612@y...] said the following:
> > i can imagine a very cool way for it to work: you get to choose the
> > number of steps in each page of the scale. that way you can set it up
> > to work the way you guys like (set 16 steps in the first page, 8 in
> > the next) or the way i like (set 12 steps in each page). wouldn't that
> > be hot, and ultimately more versitle?
> > 

???

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j.0rdan