Elektron Musical Instruments

I run a lot thru a BBE sonic maximizer and Alesis 3630 Compressor, pretty cheap stuff, but can help....

I def hear great things about the FMR audio gear like the previous poster, so def a good company to check for low $$ compressors...

-JC

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Hello!

BBE sonic Maximizer destroys your sound. It makes weird Frequency 
distortions. Once I couldn\ufffdt have my track mastered because of that.

Ok there might be some more affordable solutions. But I don\ufffdt see what 
running your mix through an alesis compressor would help the mix to 
sound better.


Flo




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hahah yea,
BBE stuff is love/hate for me, the triple frequency boost stuff can turn a horrible mix into a horribly horrible mix....

ahh hell, never use one...

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  From: Flo Zombie 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] dedicated compressor



  Hello!

  BBE sonic Maximizer destroys your sound. It makes weird Frequency 
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  Ok there might be some more affordable solutions. But I don´t see what 
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  Flo

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I've noticed that you get better results using that Maximizer on single 
sounds than on complete mixes.
But I have used it and it's been helpfull, though I usually dial the 
knobs at no higher than 2...

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> From: Flo Zombie
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
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> Ok there might be some more affordable solutions. But I don´t see what 
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better is a subjective term. 

i thought the original poster was only looking for some kind of coloration/distortion etc. for 
the MD (drums) only??  in which case dynamics processors of all flavors/brands could meet 
his needs.

for BBE and other:
I would not trust any plugins that just promise to make the sound big.
I used the sonic maximizer on one sound and it made weird peak sounds 
all over the frequence spectrum. You couldn\ufffdt hear this, but it was 
definitely a problem at mastering.
After i had taken that processed sound out of the mix, the whole song 
could be compressed better and was double as loud afterwards. So it 
turned out that the Maximizer made the contrary of what it was supposed 
to do.

Anyway, I think the internal compressor of the MD is not so bad to 
"melt" the drums together.I haven\ufffdt compared it directly to a plugin or 
other compressor but you can definitely get your sound that pumping effect.


Flo



dayjob111 schrieb:

>> Ok there might be some more affordable solutions. But I don\ufffdt see what 
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BBEs:
My boss runs a couple studios and I've only ever heard him (or anyone)
using them for live sound.  I can't stand them anywhere, personally.

Take care,
des

I agree, BBE should be avoided unless you REALLY have a need for it.

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just a tip guys...every piece of crap gear (with cheap components)  
you introduce into the signal chain is going to affect the sound of  
your MD.  Low quality DACs, wobbly clocks, compressors that lose the  
attack transients, etc. all negatively affect the signal quality.  If  
you've spent $1000 on a drum machine, think twice before running it  
through a bargain bin compressor or and expecting great results.

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> just a tip guys...every piece of crap gear (with cheap components)  
> you introduce into the signal chain is going to affect the sound of  
> your MD.  Low quality DACs, wobbly clocks, compressors that lose the  
> attack transients, etc. all negatively affect the signal quality.  If  
> you've spent $1000 on a drum machine, think twice before running it  
> through a bargain bin compressor or and expecting great results.

true .. unless you are deliberately trying to make it sound "that" way.   

ps- i wish my MD w/UW upgrade only cost $1000  ;)

Agreed.
On a side note, the Triple C compressors were about $1200 retail when they
first came out.
They are simply cheaper now because they are discontinued.

On 6/7/06, Justin Maxwell <soc@...> wrote:
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>   just a tip guys...every piece of crap gear (with cheap components)
> you introduce into the signal chain is going to affect the sound of
> your MD. Low quality DACs, wobbly clocks, compressors that lose the
> attack transients, etc. all negatively affect the signal quality. If
> you've spent $1000 on a drum machine, think twice before running it
> through a bargain bin compressor or and expecting great results.
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I never liked anything I've heard from TC. I think they're not 
compatible with my ears. :) So I won't go the TC route, and I was 
already set in getting a good quality piece. 

I've been reading more about this and I think that what I'm really 
needing is a pre amp/eq front end rather than a compressor. What I want 
are some tone shaping capabilities. Something that can push the highs 
in a sweet and pleasent way and give some more fullness to the bottom 
end.  

Ideally there should be a stereo pre/eq combo that would actually sound 
really good and would cost under 1k... but I know probably I'm asking 
too much.

Also, are any of you recording the MD through a pre/eq front end or do 
you just go directly to the soundcard?