Elektron Musical Instruments

For those of you who use it in your tracks, can someone clue me in to 
the use of 'shuffle'. The whys, the hows..

If you had a series of 16th notes, which ones would have their timing 
deviate from the bpm? How does the timing relate to the percentages 
commonly seen on gear?

Do you normally have a single shuffle value for the song as a whole, or 
is there some benefit to having simultaneous patches/instruments/tracks 
on different shuffle settings?

thanks,
Mark

On 8/23/06, Mark Rivera <marr@...> wrote:
> For those of you who use it in your tracks, can someone clue me in to
> the use of 'shuffle'. The whys, the hows..
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>
> thanks,
> Mark
>
>

Shuffle nudges everything towards a 6/8 triplet (shuffle) feel, afaik.

Take care,
des

I say try it out and see what works.  I think the MD defaults shuffles at
every other step.  i think you can safely add shuffle steps to anything
between main hits, like between a kick hit and a snare hit, etc.  i'm
pretty sure that's how i do it on a general basis.  if i want to actually
contruct an intelligent sounding shuffled beat then i just sort of play
around with this idea, though the approach is different...




> For those of you who use it in your tracks, can someone clue me in to
> the use of 'shuffle'. The whys, the hows..
>
> If you had a series of 16th notes, which ones would have their timing
> deviate from the bpm? How does the timing relate to the percentages
> commonly seen on gear?
>
> Do you normally have a single shuffle value for the song as a whole, or
> is there some benefit to having simultaneous patches/instruments/tracks
> on different shuffle settings?
>
> thanks,
> Mark
>


/roby
//www.sweet-trip.net

You can 'shuffle' any beat in any pattern - even one single step if
you like - it's all a matter of where you want something to fall. You
can just apply swing to the snare track if you need it to drag against
the groove. The percentages start at 50% which is no swing and up to
75% or above - 75% being full triplet or perfect shuffle. That shuffle
can be in 8ths or 16ths - in 8ths - shuffle means each 2nd 8th gets
pushed later against the perfect strict grid, in 16ths - each 2nd 16th
gets pushed later against the perfect strict grid. The larger the
percentage - the more each second 8th or second 16th step (or
whichever step you nominate on the MD) is made to fall later against
the grid. You can do some really cool things with two machines -
hardware or software - one machine in 16 step hard quantise and
another running 12 steps to a bar - play with shuffle values on the 12
step pattern for some mind bending feels. Hope this helps. David

www.innerclocksystems.com

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "innerclock2004" <david@...>  
wrote:

 Hi, 
 I like the shuffle all circuit style right now,on a classic Roland 
 TR one can shuffle the hole machine in a direction.thats cool if
 you use different units together.u know.


 www.myspace.com/profondo

> You can 'shuffle' any beat in any pattern - even one single step if
> you like - it's all a matter of where you want something to fall. You
> can just apply swing to the snare track if you need it to drag against
> the groove. The percentages start at 50% which is no swing and up to
> 75% or above - 75% being full triplet or perfect shuffle. That shuffle
> can be in 8ths or 16ths - in 8ths - shuffle means each 2nd 8th gets
> pushed later against the perfect strict grid, in 16ths - each 2nd 16th
> gets pushed later against the perfect strict grid. The larger the
> percentage - the more each second 8th or second 16th step (or
> whichever step you nominate on the MD) is made to fall later against
> the grid. You can do some really cool things with two machines -
> hardware or software - one machine in 16 step hard quantise and
> another running 12 steps to a bar - play with shuffle values on the 12
> step pattern for some mind bending feels. Hope this helps. David
> 
> www.innerclocksystems.com
>