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Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Tarekith

A lot of these are from the same person, takes two seconds to ban them
from posting.

On 11/27/06, Janne G:son Berg <jgb@...> wrote:
> Moderate who can become a member of this mailinglist? Any other ideas?
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> /Janne
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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Tony Scharf

On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 14:11 +0100, Janne G:son Berg wrote:
> Moderate who can become a member of this mailinglist? Any other ideas?
> 
> /Janne
> 
> 

Yep...this is a case of 'moderator asleep at the wheel'.  It is pretty
obvious that the creator of this bored does not read it very often.

-tony
>

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Joseph Melnyk

yes.  and i do it as soon as i possibly can, just like with the last  
person i had to ban (who was doing the same spams).  i don't have  
time to personally approve every single member (the only 100%  
effective way to make sure there's no spammers) so banning when i see  
someone doing this is the only option.


On Nov 27, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tarekith wrote:

> A lot of these are from the same person, takes two seconds to ban them
> from posting.
>
> On 11/27/06, Janne G:son Berg <jgb@...> wrote:
> > Moderate who can become a member of this mailinglist? Any other  
> ideas?
> >
> > /Janne
> >


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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Jesse

What , you guys dont like Sonya Kapur or Gayithri lol

lets not forget kate andrew...

They give me a good chuckle daily...
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Melnyk 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?


  yes. and i do it as soon as i possibly can, just like with the last 
  person i had to ban (who was doing the same spams). i don't have 
  time to personally approve every single member (the only 100% 
  effective way to make sure there's no spammers) so banning when i see 
  someone doing this is the only option.

  On Nov 27, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tarekith wrote:

  > A lot of these are from the same person, takes two seconds to ban them
  > from posting.
  >
  > On 11/27/06, Janne G:son Berg <jgb@...> wrote:
  > > Moderate who can become a member of this mailinglist? Any other 
  > ideas?
  > >
  > > /Janne
  > >

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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be done all by yourself, share and delegate.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Melnyk 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?


  yes. and i do it as soon as i possibly can, just like with the last 
  person i had to ban (who was doing the same spams). i don't have 
  time to personally approve every single member (the only 100% 
  effective way to make sure there's no spammers) so banning when i see 
  someone doing this is the only option.

  On Nov 27, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Tarekith wrote:

  > A lot of these are from the same person, takes two seconds to ban them
  > from posting.
  >
  > On 11/27/06, Janne G:son Berg <jgb@...> wrote:
  > > Moderate who can become a member of this mailinglist? Any other 
  > ideas?
  > >
  > > /Janne
  > >

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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Robert Krueger

Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote:
> I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be done all by yourself, share and delegate.
> 


Honestly, it took about 10 seconds for me to delete and block the 
offending posters.  It truly isn't that terrible or intrusive.

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Joe

i used to moderate all new members until they made a legit post;
exactly as you described below.  however, yahoo would never notify me
that there were pending messages (and hence, members) to approve.  so
unless i looked for it (which i didn't, because posts are delivered to
my email box), i didn't see the pending messages and didn't approve
new members.  at the time, spam wasn't a problem so i set the group to
allow any new members.  obviously this isn't working right now.

i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
my options to moderate all incoming members.

hope that helps!


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
<sharmalaw1@...> wrote:
>
> I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the
settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not
spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time
consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join
and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to
go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few
days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and
the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted
folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be
done all by yourself, share and delegate.

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Janne G:son Berg

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Joe wrote:

> i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
> know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
> my options to moderate all incoming members.

Great! At least I am very grateful for this. If the work load gets too 
high for you, just tell us. I am sure that there are more people willing 
to help out.

:-)

/Janne

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Strange, I get individual email notification of any moderated messages which tells me that it is coming from someone who is new and hence moderated. If I am lazy, I can just respond to the message and it lets the message go through (but it doesn't de-moderate the user (I have emailed yahoo about this since such would be a GREAT feature for us moderators-- allowing a quick re email to both let the message in and de-moderate the sender somehow). Anyway, cheers!
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?


  i used to moderate all new members until they made a legit post;
  exactly as you described below. however, yahoo would never notify me
  that there were pending messages (and hence, members) to approve. so
  unless i looked for it (which i didn't, because posts are delivered to
  my email box), i didn't see the pending messages and didn't approve
  new members. at the time, spam wasn't a problem so i set the group to
  allow any new members. obviously this isn't working right now.

  i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
  know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
  my options to moderate all incoming members.

  hope that helps!

  --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
  <sharmalaw1@...> wrote:
  >
  > I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the
  settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not
  spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time
  consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join
  and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to
  go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few
  days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and
  the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted
  folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be
  done all by yourself, share and delegate.



   

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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Tarekith

Thanks, I'm sure it'll make a difference.

On 11/27/06, Joe <jmelnyk@...> wrote:
> i used to moderate all new members until they made a legit post;
> exactly as you described below.  however, yahoo would never notify me
> that there were pending messages (and hence, members) to approve.  so
> unless i looked for it (which i didn't, because posts are delivered to
> my email box), i didn't see the pending messages and didn't approve
> new members.  at the time, spam wasn't a problem so i set the group to
> allow any new members.  obviously this isn't working right now.
>
> i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
> know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
> my options to moderate all incoming members.
>
> hope that helps!
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
> <sharmalaw1@...> wrote:
> >
> > I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the
> settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not
> spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time
> consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join
> and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to
> go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few
> days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and
> the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted
> folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be
> done all by yourself, share and delegate.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


-- 
Tarekith
http://www.tarekith.com

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Scott Kellogg

Quiet, spammer!  Look, I'm abusing my powers ;)



On 11/27/06, Janne G:son Berg <jgb@...> wrote:
>
>   On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Joe wrote:
>
> > i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
> > know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
> > my options to moderate all incoming members.
>
> Great! At least I am very grateful for this. If the work load gets too
> high for you, just tell us. I am sure that there are more people willing
> to help out.
>
> :-)
>
> /Janne
>
>  
>



-- 
Scott Kellogg


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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Joseph Melnyk

right, right.  it now has the option of getting such notifications.   
that may have always been there, but i don't remember ever seeing  
it.  as is now, it should be good.


On Nov 27, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote:

> Strange, I get individual email notification of any moderated  
> messages which tells me that it is coming from someone who is new  
> and hence moderated. If I am lazy, I can just respond to the  
> message and it lets the message go through (but it doesn't de- 
> moderate the user (I have emailed yahoo about this since such would  
> be a GREAT feature for us moderators-- allowing a quick re email to  
> both let the message in and de-moderate the sender somehow).  
> Anyway, cheers!


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-27 by Scott Kellogg

I'm pretty twitchy, so I'll keep an eye on it.

On 11/27/06, Tarekith <Tarekith@...> wrote:
>
>   Thanks, I'm sure it'll make a difference.
>
> On 11/27/06, Joe <jmelnyk@... <jmelnyk%40cs.kent.edu>> wrote:
> > i used to moderate all new members until they made a legit post;
> > exactly as you described below. however, yahoo would never notify me
> > that there were pending messages (and hence, members) to approve. so
> > unless i looked for it (which i didn't, because posts are delivered to
> > my email box), i didn't see the pending messages and didn't approve
> > new members. at the time, spam wasn't a problem so i set the group to
> > allow any new members. obviously this isn't working right now.
> >
> > i've added another moderator (scott aka glaive, whom most of you might
> > know from handling www.elektron-users.com) and i've set both his and
> > my options to moderate all incoming members.
> >
> > hope that helps!
> >
> >
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
> > <sharmalaw1@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I moderate about 20 or so gear related yahoogroups. I set the
> > settings to moderate all new members. Once I see a message that is not
> > spam I approve the message and change their status. It is not as time
> > consuming as approving all members when they join. Often, folks join
> > and don't post for months. But the first time they do, yes I have to
> > go through a minor hassle. Sometimes their posts have to wait a few
> > days until I can get to it, but after that it is smooth sailing and
> > the groups are spam free. Perhaps you may make a few other trusted
> > folks moderators and do it that way. If you can't do what needs to be
> > done all by yourself, share and delegate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Tarekith
> http://www.tarekith.com
>  
>



-- 
Scott Kellogg


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Re: [elektron] Is it possible to stop all the spammers?

2006-11-29 by Robert Krueger

> Honestly, it took about 10 seconds for me to delete and block the 
> offending posters.  It truly isn't that terrible or intrusive.
> 


Interesting on how a message's meaning changes quite a bit when it 
arrives many hours later than when it was originally posted :-p

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