Elektron Musical Instruments

Let's say I have as bassline, and I want a periodic octave
jump.  Preferably in one direction, but even if I have to
deal with the occasional deep basses, it's a start.

So, my bassline, which may look like this:

==========================================
    0       0       0       0       0
0       0       0       0       0
==========================================

would look like, say, this:

==========================================
                    0               0
    0       0               0           
0       0       0       0       0
==========================================

Have any of you managed to do this with the LFO tuned to
pitch?  If so, would you please relate how?

I've just about reached the conclusion that it can't be
done, but I hopw I'm wrong.

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Hey Niall,

Not sure I understand your graph.. could you elaborate ?

Cheers
Marc.

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M-.-n wrote:
> Hey Niall,
> 
> Not sure I understand your graph.. could you elaborate ?
> 
> Cheers
> Marc.


The graphs are notes, the height represents an arbitrary note, say C and 
E.  The first graph shows a repetitive pattern played with alternating 
tones.

The second graph shows a bit of randomness of the first graph where a 
couple of the notes are played at an octave higher.

I believe he wants the pattern to have a bit of note randomness to it, 
but for the amount changed to be exactly an octave of what would 
normally be programmed at that beat.

On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 03:42:58AM -0500, Robert Krueger wrote:
> 
> I believe he wants the pattern to have a bit of note randomness to it, 
> but for the amount changed to be exactly an octave of what would 
> normally be programmed at that beat.

You got it.

This is something I could effect trivially on a computer,
and I've been trying for some time with the Mono's LFOs,
with no luck, so far.

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I got confused by the "LFO needed to be in sync with the pitch".. that would
be more like synched to tempo isn'it ?

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  On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 03:42:58AM -0500, Robert Krueger wrote:
  >
  > I believe he wants the pattern to have a bit of note randomness to it,
  > but for the amount changed to be exactly an octave of what would
  > normally be programmed at that beat.

  You got it.

  This is something I could effect trivially on a computer,
  and I've been trying for some time with the Mono's LFOs,
  with no luck, so far.

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i still dont get it, but can you do it using the ARP instead, set to random?
>
> I got confused by the "LFO needed to be in sync with the pitch".. that
> would
> be more like synched to tempo isn'it ?
>
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>   On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 03:42:58AM -0500, Robert Krueger wrote:
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>   > I believe he wants the pattern to have a bit of note randomness to it,
>   > but for the amount changed to be exactly an octave of what would
>   > normally be programmed at that beat.
>
>   You got it.
>
>   This is something I could effect trivially on a computer,
>   and I've been trying for some time with the Mono's LFOs,
>   with no luck, so far.
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On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:19:36PM -0800, roby@... wrote:
> i still dont get it, but can you do it using the ARP instead, set to random?


Pitch is just a specific example, but let's say that I want
the LFO to effect a pitch jump of exactly one octave every 12
steps, and I only want it to last for one step.

At first glance, it seemed doable.

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Try this.and I am not sure this will work or if its possible on the MnM
without it being in front of me.

 

If you can route an LFO to control its own rate, you should be able to
achieve close to what you want .  This will have the effect of making the hi
period last significantly less time than the low.  It may take some playing
to get this effect to work in an exact and predictable way - you may have to
get a second LFO' in play to act as a correcting offset..but its worth
playing with at least.

 

Another idea would be to get a schrittmacher :D

 

Tony

 

 

 

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On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 02:19:36PM -0800, roby@sweet-trip.
<mailto:roby%40sweet-trip.net> net wrote:
> i still dont get it, but can you do it using the ARP instead, set to
random?

Pitch is just a specific example, but let's say that I want
the LFO to effect a pitch jump of exactly one octave every 12
steps, and I only want it to last for one step.

At first glance, it seemed doable.

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On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 06:02:07PM -0600, Tony Scharf wrote:
> 
> If you can route an LFO to control its own rate, you should be able to
> achieve close to what you want .  This will have the effect of making the hi
> period last significantly less time than the low.  It may take some playing
> to get this effect to work in an exact and predictable way - you may have to
> get a second LFO' in play to act as a correcting offset..but its worth
> playing with at least.

I've tried it with two LFOs {mirrored and otherwise} so far, and with no luck, yet.
I've also tried incorporating LFO interlace.
It'd be nice if there were a pulsewidth control for the
LFO, and unipolar pulse waves would be nice, as well - that
would save a extra LFO, and I haven't had much luck getting
two to work well in tandem, anyway.


> Another idea would be to get a schrittmacher :D

Guess I'll have to stick with M until then =)

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