Elektron Musical Instruments

anyone?  :(

  _____  

Hello all,
I have a MD with a US power supply.  I plan to travel to Europe and take
the MD with me.  Do I need a separate European power supply from
Elektron or can I use one of those little adaptor plugs???  Thanks in
advance.

Well, I don't know, but in Europe, you will have 230V ac, so, depending 
on the spec:s of the Elektron PSU, you will either need just a small 
adapter plug that just changes the shape of physical pins to fit the 
power outlet, or you will need a 230V to 110V converter.

What does the PSU say? Does it say something like 100V - 230V AC to 6V 
ac (or whatever the MD runs on, but if I remember correctly it's 6V ac), 
then you will be fine if you can just use an adapter to make the plug 
fit the outlet. If it says 110V ac to 6V ac, you will need a transformer 
as well.

Regards

/Patrik
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Morris, John K skrev:

> 
> 
> anyone? :(
> 
> _____
> 
> Hello all,
> I have a MD with a US power supply. I plan to travel to Europe and take
> the MD with me. Do I need a separate European power supply from
> Elektron or can I use one of those little adaptor plugs??? Thanks in
> advance.
> 
>

hey all 

i have an Machinedrum SPS-1 UW with OS 1.33 - since a few months it happens from time to time that 
after a loading a new kit everythings sounds like heavily bitcrushed. 

Does someone has the same problem? is it probably related to Os 1.33 - i have somehow the feeling that thte problem exists since this update 

?

i too have this problem>? 


verstaerker writes: 

> hey all  
> 
> i have an Machinedrum SPS-1 UW with OS 1.33 - since a few months it happens from time to time that 
> after a loading a new kit everythings sounds like heavily bitcrushed.  
> 
> Does someone has the same problem? is it probably related to Os 1.33 - i have somehow the feeling that thte problem exists since this update  
> 
> ?  
>

The adaptor says 110v 60hz so it looks like I will just need to order a
separate adaptor from elektron.  Probably the safest way to go. 

-----Original Message-----
From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrik Rydberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:18 AM
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] MD Power Supply

Well, I don't know, but in Europe, you will have 230V ac, so, depending
on the spec:s of the Elektron PSU, you will either need just a small
adapter plug that just changes the shape of physical pins to fit the
power outlet, or you will need a 230V to 110V converter.

What does the PSU say? Does it say something like 100V - 230V AC to 6V
ac (or whatever the MD runs on, but if I remember correctly it's 6V ac),
then you will be fine if you can just use an adapter to make the plug
fit the outlet. If it says 110V ac to 6V ac, you will need a transformer
as well.

Regards

/Patrik
www.cutpaste.org

Morris, John K skrev:
> 
> 
> anyone? :(
> 
> _____
> 
> Hello all,
> I have a MD with a US power supply. I plan to travel to Europe and 
> take the MD with me. Do I need a separate European power supply from 
> Elektron or can I use one of those little adaptor plugs??? Thanks in 
> advance.
> 
> 



 
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I think it would be cheaper if you get a converter
just google on 110v to 220v

example http://store.sundancesolar.com/duvoco1122.html

Regards

Olaf

http://www.dumbvox.nl
http://www.myspace.com/dumbvoxmusic
http://www.headroom.nl
http://www.lekkahband.net

From: "Morris, John K" <jkmorris@...>
Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [elektron] MD Power Supply
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:34:38 -0400

The adaptor says 110v 60hz so it looks like I will just need to order a
separate adaptor from elektron.  Probably the safest way to go.

-----Original Message-----
From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrik Rydberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:18 AM
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] MD Power Supply

Well, I don't know, but in Europe, you will have 230V ac, so, depending
on the spec:s of the Elektron PSU, you will either need just a small
adapter plug that just changes the shape of physical pins to fit the
power outlet, or you will need a 230V to 110V converter.

What does the PSU say? Does it say something like 100V - 230V AC to 6V
ac (or whatever the MD runs on, but if I remember correctly it's 6V ac),
then you will be fine if you can just use an adapter to make the plug
fit the outlet. If it says 110V ac to 6V ac, you will need a transformer
as well.

Regards

/Patrik
www.cutpaste.org

Morris, John K skrev:
 >
 >
 > anyone? :(
 >
 > _____
 >
 > Hello all,
 > I have a MD with a US power supply. I plan to travel to Europe and
 > take the MD with me. Do I need a separate European power supply from
 > Elektron or can I use one of those little adaptor plugs??? Thanks in
 > advance.
 >
 >




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actually a good question..
6v AC that get converted inside the machinedrum make
it actually pretty independant from the type of
external powersupplys... 

When its done wright the the MD could also take 9 v DC
power supplys independent from theire polarity...... 
That only elektron can answer..but would be good to
know in emergency cases...

However... The electron powersupply gives 3 Amperes
!!!

so any normal little powersupply just would melt away
even when the MD can take it...

you could build your own poer supply for europe... but
i gues its better to buy one from elektron...

to build it yourself you just need one transformator

230V to 6 V.. 3 Ampere... or 18 watts output...


This one for example...
you have to know how to correctly parralel the output
coils

http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=506559..

Its cheap... less than 10$...but you have all the
solder action and need a housing..so its in the end
probably cheaper to buy the Elektron euro power supply
( where you probably will find just this blue
transformator inside... )

But just in case everything goes wrong or your power
supply gets wrong...
Becaus eelektron uses just an AC supply its very easy
to build that yourself in many places in the world
where you have acces to stander electronic
components...




--- Olaf Alafel <olafalafel@...> schrieb:

> I think it would be cheaper if you get a converter
> just google on 110v to 220v
> 
> example
> http://store.sundancesolar.com/duvoco1122.html
> 
> Regards
> 
> Olaf
> 
> http://www.dumbvox.nl
> http://www.myspace.com/dumbvoxmusic
> http://www.headroom.nl
> http://www.lekkahband.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Morris, John K" <jkmorris@...>
> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [elektron] MD Power Supply
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:34:38 -0400
> 
> The adaptor says 110v 60hz so it looks like I will
> just need to order a
> separate adaptor from elektron.  Probably the safest
> way to go.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:elektron-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Patrik Rydberg
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MD Power Supply
> 
> Well, I don't know, but in Europe, you will have
> 230V ac, so, depending
> on the spec:s of the Elektron PSU, you will either
> need just a small
> adapter plug that just changes the shape of physical
> pins to fit the
> power outlet, or you will need a 230V to 110V
> converter.
> 
> What does the PSU say? Does it say something like
> 100V - 230V AC to 6V
> ac (or whatever the MD runs on, but if I remember
> correctly it's 6V ac),
> then you will be fine if you can just use an adapter
> to make the plug
> fit the outlet. If it says 110V ac to 6V ac, you
> will need a transformer
> as well.
> 
> Regards
> 
> /Patrik
> www.cutpaste.org
> 
> Morris, John K skrev:
>  >
>  >
>  > anyone? :(
>  >
>  > _____
>  >
>  > Hello all,
>  > I have a MD with a US power supply. I plan to
> travel to Europe and
>  > take the MD with me. Do I need a separate
> European power supply from
>  > Elektron or can I use one of those little adaptor
> plugs??? Thanks in
>  > advance.
>  >
>  >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
>
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I had this aswell and had to send in my MD to
elektron..
after theire request... 

seems that i am a bit faster in coming along this
things :-/
Also had the timing issue in the past..but didnt
wanted to shout it out too loud :-/

However..Elektron preffered to send my machine in for
deep investigation..they  will find the source for the
problem..

But.. my guess is that it is a bug in OS 1.33
regarding midimachines..



--- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
schrieb:

> hey all 
> 
> i have an Machinedrum SPS-1 UW with OS 1.33 - since
> a few months it happens from time to time that 
> after a loading a new kit everythings sounds like
> heavily bitcrushed. 
> 
> Does someone has the same problem? is it probably
> related to Os 1.33 - i have somehow the feeling that
> thte problem exists since this update 
> 
> ? 
> 
> 



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yes i believe my MD is faulty also.. timing skips often and can't load 
certain machines sometimes.. same issue hardly any sound from machine super 
bit reduced. 

Silvia Tubig writes: 

> I had this aswell and had to send in my MD to
> elektron..
> after theire request...  
> 
> seems that i am a bit faster in coming along this
> things :-/
> Also had the timing issue in the past..but didnt
> wanted to shout it out too loud :-/ 
> 
> However..Elektron preffered to send my machine in for
> deep investigation..they  will find the source for the
> problem.. 
> 
> But.. my guess is that it is a bug in OS 1.33
> regarding midimachines.. 
> 
>  
> 
> --- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
> schrieb: 
> 
>> hey all  
>> 
>> i have an Machinedrum SPS-1 UW with OS 1.33 - since
>> a few months it happens from time to time that 
>> after a loading a new kit everythings sounds like
>> heavily bitcrushed.  
>> 
>> Does someone has the same problem? is it probably
>> related to Os 1.33 - i have somehow the feeling that
>> thte problem exists since this update  
>> 
>> ?  
>> 
>> 
>  
> 
> 
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>

I got a replacement machine from the shop i bought the
MD ..
There i found ways to reproduce the phenomen..but
opposite to the machine i sended in i was able to cure
things on the replacement machine...

its hard to say if there is a hardware relation...or..
if there could be problems while installing the OS
1.33...

I suggest to try the following procedre...

dump all your materials..check if the dumps are
correct...

Than do an empty reset...

Create a new kit...
make a track with trx bassdrum..
copy the track on all tracks
mute all tracks

start the MD and listen to each track by unmuting it
one at a time..

Are they all sounding the same?

If not reinstall Os 1.33..
Do an empty reset and perform the all tracks test
again...

Do they sound all the same?


However..when the all sound the same you have the
machine in a clean state to start..but the problem
will appear again when you reload the old kits...

But... at least on the replacement machine...

this time changing a machine of a faulty track will
crash the when you safe the kit..but after doing a
cold reset the kit is restored and works fine... 

On the MD i sended in even 3 empty resets and
reinstalls havent cleared anything..but maybe i would
have needed to do it 4 times?
I ve no idea yet how often this can go wrong or if its
related to the turbo midi interface or whatever..

I only can say ..the new machine behaves better..i can
control the phenomen..But even the new machine failed
the all tracks test after i upgraded to os 1.33... so
i did it again..and than it worked fine..

On the old machine I did the same withoiut cure...but
when you dont work under controled lab conditions...i
might just be better in train now in performing the
resets...there was also an TM-1 update in between that
could have made a difference..

Electron asked me to send the MD in..the are not aware
of the bug...
At l\ufffdeast not yet

Thanx to the new empty MD I also found why the
corruption happens in the first place...
Its related to midi machines...
tracks that was at any earlier stage of the kit a
midimachine will fail...

But as it seems now to me that on some MD\ufffds you get a
crash while changing them and than its good...
While on others the phenomen stays ...

My theory
There is a midimachine bug..but how your MD reacts on
this is
either hardware related, or OS1.33 installation
related...
Which in itself again can be TM-1 related...
complex issue..

Best way to find quick solutions is if others do some
reinstalls aswell and watch it..

The 16 tracks soundengine test direct after
instalation is at least good to see if your machine is
corruption free from the start...
Or to see if you catched corruption allready...
The midimachine virus 8-)

The MD i had to send in was even doing phantom midi
output of controler data...
this havent happened on the replacement machien
either...
But... i havent done as much with it yet...

We need to collect more information.




--- spencer <spencer@...>
schrieb:

> yes i believe my MD is faulty also.. timing skips
> often and can't load 
> certain machines sometimes.. same issue hardly any
> sound from machine super 
> bit reduced. 
> 
> Silvia Tubig writes: 
> 
> > I had this aswell and had to send in my MD to
> > elektron..
> > after theire request...  
> > 
> > seems that i am a bit faster in coming along this
> > things :-/
> > Also had the timing issue in the past..but didnt
> > wanted to shout it out too loud :-/ 
> > 
> > However..Elektron preffered to send my machine in
> for
> > deep investigation..they  will find the source for
> the
> > problem.. 
> > 
> > But.. my guess is that it is a bug in OS 1.33
> > regarding midimachines.. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --- verstaerker
> <verstaerker@...>
> > schrieb: 
> > 
> >> hey all  
> >> 
> >> i have an Machinedrum SPS-1 UW with OS 1.33 -
> since
> >> a few months it happens from time to time that 
> >> after a loading a new kit everythings sounds like
> >> heavily bitcrushed.  
> >> 
> >> Does someone has the same problem? is it probably
> >> related to Os 1.33 - i have somehow the feeling
> that
> >> thte problem exists since this update  
> >> 
> >> ?  
> >> 
> >> 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >        __________________________________ Yahoo!
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> > 
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i downgraded to OS 1.32 - and voila everything is fine

what was the new features in 1.33? 

--- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
schrieb:

> i downgraded to OS 1.32 - and voila everything is
> fine
> 
> 



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Updates
-------

- MIDI Machines -

MIDI machines rewritten from scratch in 1.31 and now adjusted according to
user feedback step by step to this 1.33 release.

Description of updated MIDI machine behaviour:

To enable several MIDI machines assigned to the same MIDI channel to 
cooperate the following rules have been set:

* If there is no lock or slide of a parameter, the first trigged MIDI machine
  track controls the setting of the parameter value.

* If there is a lock or slide on the parameter the last MIDI machine track to
  lock it decides the value.

* LFO's applied to MIDI machines are always added to the parameter value after
  all locks and slides are applied.

- RAM machines -

Description of updated behaviour:

RAM play (P1 and P2) machines do not stop if a RAM Record (R1 and R2) 
machine is trigged for recording. 
However, the RAM play machine DOES stop if the associated recording 
machine catches up with the audio replaying. 
The RAM play machine also stops if the sample is played backwards into the
currently recording associated RAM record machine.

That means that if your pattern has a trig of R1 on track 1 and P1 on track
2, P1 will play what is being recorded with as little delay as possible. On 
the other hand, if you have P1 on track 1 and R1 on track 2, if there is a 
previous recording, P1 will play that instead. If the P1 machine plays 
slower than the R1 recording machine R1 will catch up with it, P1 will stop,
and there can be an audible click.

If you have relied on Record machines stopping the play machines we suggest
that you instead try adjusting the hold time of the play machines.


Bug fixes
---------

- CTR8P -

CTR8P machines did not display MIDI machine parameters. Fixed.

CTR8P machines did not display names of CTR8P parameters Fixed.
(Note! CTR8P machines cannot be chained together.)

CTR8P machine parameter PAR did not update when parameter TRK was 
adjusted. Fixed.

CTR8P machine locks did not affect MIDI machines. Fixed

CTR8P machine locks on first step in pattern did not work in all
situations. Fixed


- MIDI Machines -

Midimachines set to the same track controlling common parameters
did not work well. Fixed

MIDI machine locks did not work on swinged notes when swing 
exceeded 50% (IE, did not work on any swinged notes). Fixed.


- General -

Slides have been tightened up.

Slide sometimes stopped early if a slide in the opposite direction 
was to be played immediately after. Fixed.

Swing set on the first step did not affect the trig immediately after
pattern play was initated. Fixed.

While in stop mode, and locks or slides were edited for the first step,
the locks and slides where ignored the first time the pattern was played.
Fixed.

Parameter locks on the first step lingered the first time played
in classic mode. Fixed.

Undoing a pattern clear removed the kit settings. Fixed.


------------------------
* Previous update info *
------------------------


List of changes from Machinedrum SPS-1 OS 1.32 to 1.32b
-------------------------------------------------------


Bug fixes
---------

Individual Swing and Accent track not working properly. Fixed.

Problems with LFOs routed to previous tracks. Fixed.

End of song did not send the MIDI message Stop. Fixed.


what was the new features in 1.33? 

--- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
schrieb:

> i downgraded to OS 1.32 - and voila everything is
> fine



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Ok i see.. that are some serious improovements...but
the rewriting of the midimachines from scratch seems
to be not finished yet...
difficould to say..OS 1.32 is probably safer...but i
stay with OS1.33 for a while and see what happens..
Hope they update soon...


--- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
schrieb:

> Updates
> -------
> 
> - MIDI Machines -
> 
> MIDI machines rewritten from scratch in 1.31 and now
> adjusted according to
> user feedback step by step to this 1.33 release.
> 
> Description of updated MIDI machine behaviour:
> 
> To enable several MIDI machines assigned to the same
> MIDI channel to 
> cooperate the following rules have been set:
> 
> * If there is no lock or slide of a parameter, the
> first trigged MIDI machine
>   track controls the setting of the parameter value.
> 
> * If there is a lock or slide on the parameter the
> last MIDI machine track to
>   lock it decides the value.
> 
> * LFO's applied to MIDI machines are always added to
> the parameter value after
>   all locks and slides are applied.
> 
> - RAM machines -
> 
> Description of updated behaviour:
> 
> RAM play (P1 and P2) machines do not stop if a RAM
> Record (R1 and R2) 
> machine is trigged for recording. 
> However, the RAM play machine DOES stop if the
> associated recording 
> machine catches up with the audio replaying. 
> The RAM play machine also stops if the sample is
> played backwards into the
> currently recording associated RAM record machine.
> 
> That means that if your pattern has a trig of R1 on
> track 1 and P1 on track
> 2, P1 will play what is being recorded with as
> little delay as possible. On 
> the other hand, if you have P1 on track 1 and R1 on
> track 2, if there is a 
> previous recording, P1 will play that instead. If
> the P1 machine plays 
> slower than the R1 recording machine R1 will catch
> up with it, P1 will stop,
> and there can be an audible click.
> 
> If you have relied on Record machines stopping the
> play machines we suggest
> that you instead try adjusting the hold time of the
> play machines.
> 
> 
> Bug fixes
> ---------
> 
> - CTR8P -
> 
> CTR8P machines did not display MIDI machine
> parameters. Fixed.
> 
> CTR8P machines did not display names of CTR8P
> parameters Fixed.
> (Note! CTR8P machines cannot be chained together.)
> 
> CTR8P machine parameter PAR did not update when
> parameter TRK was 
> adjusted. Fixed.
> 
> CTR8P machine locks did not affect MIDI machines.
> Fixed
> 
> CTR8P machine locks on first step in pattern did not
> work in all
> situations. Fixed
> 
> 
> - MIDI Machines -
> 
> Midimachines set to the same track controlling
> common parameters
> did not work well. Fixed
> 
> MIDI machine locks did not work on swinged notes
> when swing 
> exceeded 50% (IE, did not work on any swinged
> notes). Fixed.
> 
> 
> - General -
> 
> Slides have been tightened up.
> 
> Slide sometimes stopped early if a slide in the
> opposite direction 
> was to be played immediately after. Fixed.
> 
> Swing set on the first step did not affect the trig
> immediately after
> pattern play was initated. Fixed.
> 
> While in stop mode, and locks or slides were edited
> for the first step,
> the locks and slides where ignored the first time
> the pattern was played.
> Fixed.
> 
> Parameter locks on the first step lingered the first
> time played
> in classic mode. Fixed.
> 
> Undoing a pattern clear removed the kit settings.
> Fixed.
> 
> 
> ------------------------
> * Previous update info *
> ------------------------
> 
> 
> List of changes from Machinedrum SPS-1 OS 1.32 to
> 1.32b
>
-------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Bug fixes
> ---------
> 
> Individual Swing and Accent track not working
> properly. Fixed.
> 
> Problems with LFOs routed to previous tracks. Fixed.
> 
> End of song did not send the MIDI message Stop.
> Fixed.
> 
> 
> what was the new features in 1.33? 
> 
> --- verstaerker <verstaerker@...>
> schrieb:
> 
> > i downgraded to OS 1.32 - and voila everything is
> > fine
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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