Elektron Musical Instruments

I am asking cus I am about to buy one , but the seller warned me  
before I buy it that this is #45 out of the first 100 that were 
produced. And the first 100 have tighter knob action than the 
newer ones. Anyone have any feedback on this? Should I hold 
out for a newer one? Thanks!

On Mon May 06 2002, alpha_peak <alpha_peak@...> wrote:

> I am asking cus I am about to buy one , but the seller warned me  
> before I buy it that this is #45 out of the first 100 that were 
> produced. And the first 100 have tighter knob action than the 
> newer ones. Anyone have any feedback on this? Should I hold 
> out for a newer one? Thanks!

I have one of those machines, and the tightness doesn't bother me at
all. The only problem I have had with the knobs were when I was
sitting in the sofa, programming patterns. Having the MD in my lap,
the tightness combined with the slightly slippery plastic knobs became
a bit irritating. Otherwise, not a problem.

/janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

The tightness sucks,
but it\ufffds no problem because Electron promised a lifetime
knob-exchange-service
for #1-100.

Splank




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Von: Janne G:son Berg [mailto:d3berg@...]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Mai 2002 14:58
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] First 100 machinedrums ever produced...tighter
knob action. Is This Bad?


On Mon May 06 2002, alpha_peak <alpha_peak@...> wrote:

> I am asking cus I am about to buy one , but the seller warned me
> before I buy it that this is #45 out of the first 100 that were
> produced. And the first 100 have tighter knob action than the
> newer ones. Anyone have any feedback on this? Should I hold
> out for a newer one? Thanks!

I have one of those machines, and the tightness doesn't bother me at
all. The only problem I have had with the knobs were when I was
sitting in the sofa, programming patterns. Having the MD in my lap,
the tightness combined with the slightly slippery plastic knobs became
a bit irritating. Otherwise, not a problem.

/janne

--
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .




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On Mon May 06 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:

> The tightness sucks, but it\ufffds no problem because Electron promised a
> lifetime knob-exchange-service for #1-100.

Have you done that? You liked the newer knobs better?

I tested the new knobs, but I became worried that
I might change seomthing by mistake, they were to slack for my
taste. Something in between would have been good for me.

/Janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

Well, I tested a newer MD at a friends house,
it felt much smoother.
It feels like fun turning them, while now
it feels like hard work.

I didn\ufffdt use the service yet, because I need my MD all time
and I don\ufffdt want to miss it for 2 weeks.
I guess they do it very fast.

Splank




-----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Janne G:son Berg [mailto:d3berg@...]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Mai 2002 17:38
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] First 100 machinedrums ever produced...tighter
knob action. Is This Bad?


On Mon May 06 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:

> The tightness sucks, but it\ufffds no problem because Electron promised a
> lifetime knob-exchange-service for #1-100.

Have you done that? You liked the newer knobs better?

I tested the new knobs, but I became worried that
I might change seomthing by mistake, they were to slack for my
taste. Something in between would have been good for me.

/Janne

--
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .




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>
>
>>The tightness sucks, but it´s no problem because Electron promised a
>>lifetime knob-exchange-service for #1-100.
>>    
>>
>Have you done that?
>
Yes.

>You liked the newer knobs better?
>
Imo, yes.
They are easier to turn, and when you have sweaty hands (like I do), 
then it it more fun to program.

>I tested the new knobs, but I became worried that
>I might change seomthing by mistake, they were to slack for my
>taste. Something in between would have been good for me.
>
LOL :-)

The knobs' feel is OK, but the knobs are too close to eachother. The 
rule of thumb: you have to be able to at least one finger between the 
knobs. In the MD, that's impossible. They're just a bit too close 
unfortunately.


-- 
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@belway.com

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Hi Joeri :)

JV> The knobs' feel is OK, but the knobs are too close to eachother.

I agree. My fingers are usually not able to twist they knobs without
inadvertently changing values on other knobs...

I also think the method used for Fine vs. Coarse value adjustment
should be reversed.  When twisting in real time I usually want larger
steps...  pressing the knob while turning should be used for fine
adjustment instead.




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Best regards,
Adam Watson

soundwithin
mailto:adam@...

>
>
>Hi Joeri :)
>
Help, a stalker. :-)))

>JV> The knobs' feel is OK, but the knobs are too close to eachother.
>
>I agree. My fingers are usually not able to twist they knobs without
>inadvertently changing values on other knobs...
>
>I also think the method used for Fine vs. Coarse value adjustment
>should be reversed.  When twisting in real time I usually want larger
>steps...  pressing the knob while turning should be used for fine
>adjustment instead.
>
Good idea... don't know why i didn't think of that. ;-)))

-- 
Joeri Vankeirsbilck
joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

> >I also think the method used for Fine vs. Coarse value 
adjustment
> >should be reversed.  When twisting in real time I usually want 
larger
> >steps...  pressing the knob while turning should be used for 
fine
> >adjustment instead.
> >
> Good idea... don't know why i didn't think of that. ;-)))

  Yes, that's a great Idea. It would be very good if you could switch 
it back and forth from the global menu, as one method is good 
for editing, and one is good for live performance. Another thing 
which would help a great deal in live situtations is moving the 
mute submenu just a little up and to the right, so it doesn't 
completly obscure the pattern number display... Has anyone 
else noticed that? Also, the ability to "latch" pattern bank 
selection keys would be very helpful, so as not to have to press 
two buttons to change patterns. 
  OK, now that I'm on a roll......... One thing I've always wanted to 
see on the MD is some king of flam/note repeat feature which 
could be adjusted to different beat subdivisions per step, per 
instrument....It could be a parameter lock function. It would also 
be really great to be able to mult LFOs to different parameters.
  Well, thats all..... I've had my MD for about a month now, and am 
very, very happy with it.....Those are my only suggestions (aside 
from perhaps a CHER or Michael Jackson screen)..
Cheers all, Jeremy

Thanks for the replys everyone...I may just order a new one from 
the machinedrum site. Thank you.