Elektron Musical Instruments

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the MD, but here are my 5 cents on improvements i'd 
like to see being made on it:

* I would prefer Patches insteadof/nextto whole Kits. The 
current "Kit-System" is very tedious to use. Sometimes i just want a 
certain Bassdrum i created, and the process to get it out of a kit i 
created before, is way too complex/unintuitive for me. I like the way 
how this is handled in common synthesizers...

* the LEDs under the Stepbuttons should indicate wich pattern is 
selected currently, instead of showing which drum is played 
currently, something i am already able to see on those LEDs in the 
left upper corner of the MD. Its diff

*  as sometimes mentioned on this list, i wish there would be a 
possibility to assign definable "global Parameters" to the endless 
rotaries, such as a "global cutoff" "pan" "key change", whatever...

MD ROCKS!

I dissagree on the first two 2 points, but the 3rd idea is excellent!

--- In elektron-users@y..., "steril707" <steril707@h...> wrote:

> I LOVE LOVE LOVE the MD, but here are my 5 cents on improvements i'd 
> like to see being made on it:
> 
> * I would prefer Patches insteadof/nextto whole Kits. The 
> current "Kit-System" is very tedious to use. Sometimes i just want a 
> certain Bassdrum i created, and the process to get it out of a kit i 
> created before, is way too complex/unintuitive for me. I like the way 
> how this is handled in common synthesizers...
> 
> * the LEDs under the Stepbuttons should indicate wich pattern is 
> selected currently, instead of showing which drum is played 
> currently, something i am already able to see on those LEDs in the 
> left upper corner of the MD. Its diff
> 
> *  as sometimes mentioned on this list, i wish there would be a 
> possibility to assign definable "global Parameters" to the endless 
> rotaries, such as a "global cutoff" "pan" "key change", whatever...
> 
> MD ROCKS!

--- In elektron-users@y..., "steril707" <steril707@h...> wrote:

> I LOVE LOVE LOVE the MD, but here are my 5 cents on improvements i'd 
> like to see being made on it:
> 
> * I would prefer Patches insteadof/nextto whole Kits. The 
> current "Kit-System" is very tedious to use. Sometimes i just want a 
> certain Bassdrum i created, and the process to get it out of a kit i 
> created before, is way too complex/unintuitive for me. I like the way 
> how this is handled in common synthesizers...
> 
> * the LEDs under the Stepbuttons should indicate wich pattern is 
> selected currently, instead of showing which drum is played 
> currently, something i am already able to see on those LEDs in the 
> left upper corner of the MD. Its diff
> 
> *  as sometimes mentioned on this list, i wish there would be a 
> possibility to assign definable "global Parameters" to the endless 
> rotaries, such as a "global cutoff" "pan" "key change", whatever...
> 
> MD ROCKS!

Allright to add to this thread, the things I would most like to see 
on the MD are:
1.Flam, or some sort of MIDI delay to create rolls.
2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to switch the 
normal LFO's to an adsr)
3. More global effects (flange, etc), and more editabilty of the 
effects ( like distortion parameters), along with the ability to 
sequence changes in the processors.
4. And yes, Global parameter controls!!!! (dist,filter,Amp. 
mod.,etc), preferably with the ability to parameter lock/sequence 
those parameter changes.
5.Bit rate reduction!

Any more?
111


<sidstationownsyou@h...> wrote:
> I dissagree on the first two 2 points, but the 3rd idea is 
excellent!
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "steril707" <steril707@h...> wrote:
> > I LOVE LOVE LOVE the MD, but here are my 5 cents on 
improvements i'd 
> > like to see being made on it:
> > 
> > * I would prefer Patches insteadof/nextto whole Kits. The 
> > current "Kit-System" is very tedious to use. Sometimes i just 
want a 
> > certain Bassdrum i created, and the process to get it out of a 
kit i 
> > created before, is way too complex/unintuitive for me. I like 
the way 
> > how this is handled in common synthesizers...
> > 
> > * the LEDs under the Stepbuttons should indicate wich 
pattern is 
> > selected currently, instead of showing which drum is played 
> > currently, something i am already able to see on those LEDs 
in the 
> > left upper corner of the MD. Its diff
> > 
> > *  as sometimes mentioned on this list, i wish there would 
be a 
> > possibility to assign definable "global Parameters" to the 
endless 
> > rotaries, such as a "global cutoff" "pan" "key change", 
whatever...
> > 
> > MD ROCKS!

On 7/1/02 11:00 PM, "falabala66" <Falabala66@...> wrote:

> 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to switch the
> normal LFO's to an adsr)

yes, yes, yes!! this would be soooo sweet!

even just a "reverse" of sorts so I could get those wack bassdrum tones...

> 5.Bit rate reduction!

my goodness yes...with both linear and adaptive reduction as a choice for
greater tonal flexibility.


I'm with Machinedrum,
aeon

Definitely #3... I really don't like the MD's distortion.

  I would also like a modification of the reverb (or a knob) to make 
it less "metallic" sounding.


--- In elektron-users@y..., "falabala66" <Falabala66@a...> wrote:

> Allright to add to this thread, the things I would most like to see 
> on the MD are:
> 1.Flam, or some sort of MIDI delay to create rolls.
> 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to switch the 
> normal LFO's to an adsr)
> 3. More global effects (flange, etc), and more editabilty of the 
> effects ( like distortion parameters), along with the ability to 
> sequence changes in the processors.
> 4. And yes, Global parameter controls!!!! (dist,filter,Amp. 
> mod.,etc), preferably with the ability to parameter lock/sequence 
> those parameter changes.
> 5.Bit rate reduction!
> 
> Any more?
> 111

I would like a dedicated MUTE button.. with a built-in 1000Watt flashing 
LED. It is utterly annoying having to press two buttons at a time when 
accessing such a commonly used function as "Track Mute".

Futhermore I would like it to be easier to access settings like "Hihat 
Decay". On my TR-909, I never even have to look.. it's always the same 
knob.. and it's always doing exactly what I expect it to.

If the MD had some of that straight-forwardness in it.. I think it would be 
the absolute killer machine for live use. In it's current state I am still 
a bit hesitant.

CraZ



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On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:00:23AM -0000, falabala66 wrote:
> Allright to add to this thread, the things I would most like to see 
> on the MD are:
> 1.Flam, or some sort of MIDI delay to create rolls.
> 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to switch the 
> normal LFO's to an adsr)
> 3. More global effects (flange, etc), and more editabilty of the 
> effects ( like distortion parameters), along with the ability to 
> sequence changes in the processors.
> 4. And yes, Global parameter controls!!!! (dist,filter,Amp. 
> mod.,etc), preferably with the ability to parameter lock/sequence 
> those parameter changes.
> 5.Bit rate reduction!

What is bit rate reduction?  I've heard of sample rate 
reduction and bit reduction before.


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WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?????????????????????????
You bunch o' Crack Ho's. We already have the sweetest
toy in the world.
By the way, a lot of the shit you're asking for you
already have. Read the friggin manual (it's easy
enough) and/or twist every knob in the thing.









--- Crackpot <shifty@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:00:23AM -0000, falabala66
> wrote:
> > Allright to add to this thread, the things I would
> most like to see 
> > on the MD are:
> > 1.Flam, or some sort of MIDI delay to create
> rolls.
> > 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to
> switch the 
> > normal LFO's to an adsr)
> > 3. More global effects (flange, etc), and more
> editabilty of the 
> > effects ( like distortion parameters), along with
> the ability to 
> > sequence changes in the processors.
> > 4. And yes, Global parameter controls!!!!
> (dist,filter,Amp. 
> > mod.,etc), preferably with the ability to
> parameter lock/sequence 
> > those parameter changes.
> > 5.Bit rate reduction!
> 
> What is bit rate reduction?  I've heard of sample
> rate 
> reduction and bit reduction before.
> 
> 
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--- In elektron-users@y..., Flavio Alvarez <srminimo@y...> wrote:
> WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?????????????????????????

  The world.

> By the way, a lot of the shit you're asking for you
> already have. Read the friggin manual (it's easy

  Already have read the manual.  What things in particular that have 
been requested are already there?

--- In elektron-users@y..., Crackpot <shifty@g...> wrote:

> What is bit rate reduction?  I've heard of sample rate 
> reduction and bit reduction before.
you're right it isn't really a "rate"....Perhaps "variable bit word size 
diminuation"  (VBWSD) is better?
111

You can use the right LFO's upward ramp set to "trig", with 
shapemix all the way to the right, and assign it to volume to get a 
slower attack, but it's still not the same as a dedicated ADSR.
111
> > 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to switch t
> yes, yes, yes!! this would be soooo sweet!
> 
> even just a "reverse" of sorts so I could get those wack 
bassdrum tones...

If people didnt ask about Midimachines in the Machinedrum, we wouldnt 
have them now, isnt it? Along alot of those other features you are 
refering about...

very very contraproductive answer of yours..




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> WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?????????????????????????
> You bunch o' Crack Ho's. We already have the sweetest
> toy in the world.
> By the way, a lot of the shit you're asking for you
> already have. Read the friggin manual (it's easy
> enough) and/or twist every knob in the thing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Crackpot <shifty@g...> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:00:23AM -0000, falabala66
> > wrote:
> > > Allright to add to this thread, the things I would
> > most like to see 
> > > on the MD are:
> > > 1.Flam, or some sort of MIDI delay to create
> > rolls.
> > > 2. Assignable ADSR envelope (perhaps an option to
> > switch the 
> > > normal LFO's to an adsr)
> > > 3. More global effects (flange, etc), and more
> > editabilty of the 
> > > effects ( like distortion parameters), along with
> > the ability to 
> > > sequence changes in the processors.
> > > 4. And yes, Global parameter controls!!!!
> > (dist,filter,Amp. 
> > > mod.,etc), preferably with the ability to
> > parameter lock/sequence 
> > > those parameter changes.
> > > 5.Bit rate reduction!
> > 
> > What is bit rate reduction?  I've heard of sample
> > rate 
> > reduction and bit reduction before.
> > 
> > 
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:09:10PM -0000, falabala66 wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@y..., Crackpot <shifty@g...> wrote:
> 
> > What is bit rate reduction?  I've heard of sample rate 
> > reduction and bit reduction before.
> you're right it isn't really a "rate"....Perhaps "variable bit word size 
> diminuation"  (VBWSD) is better?
> 111

hahah reminds me of another effect i would like someone somewhere
to make- it lets you execute variable bit quantization by frequency
range- kind of like how mp3 and jpg compression works, except
instead of choosing the bit reduction by perceptual model, there
would simply be a knob for Fc.

It would consist of an FFT, a mask for quantiziation, the
quantizer and an IFFT.

The main purpose would be to simulate low-bandwidth web audio
downloads.  







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Quoth Crackpot:

: The main purpose would be to simulate low-bandwidth web audio
: downloads.  

LOL!

> instead of choosing the bit reduction by perceptual model, 
there
> would simply be a knob for Fc.
> 
> It would consist of an FFT, a mask for quantiziation, the
> quantizer and an IFFT.
> 
> The main purpose would be to simulate low-bandwidth web 
audio
> downloads.  
 
  You could describe soundfiles run through your effect as 
"warmer" and "Phatter".,and when I'm quasi famous I'll do a 
product endorsement! (teehee)
   So basically what you're describing would be kind of like a filter 
that reduced the bits at specific fequency, with a specific 
bandwidth...Is that what you mean? I could definitely use 
something like that (besides for its intended purpose)...The virus 
b has some interesting sample rate and bit reduction curves on 
its filters...possibly similar to what you're talking about, though 
not as refined..
111