Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello everybody -

I am researching a bunch of boxes to put together a live PA rig.  My music
runs the gamut as far as styles go.  The most important thing is that I am
able to improvise on the gear.  

I have looked at just about everything, but keep getting drawn back to
Machinedrum.  Grooveboxes are cool and all, but there's something about
give my money to a big company like Roland or Yamaha that rubs me the wrong
way.

I'd like to keep my kit as compact as possible, so it's easy to set up and
tear down.  Anyway, if anyone would like to share their experiences with
the MD in a live setting, that would be great.  I'm especially interested
in people who gig with just the MD or perhaps the MD plus one other box and
a mixer.  For example, the MD, a Future-Retro 777, a mixer, and maybe a
Kaoss pad would make for a kill Acid setup.

Cheers!

/Scott
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I did a little set with my MD and a fatman I built and a mixer.  I 
could do some weird raw sht with the fatman routed to the md.  I 
still can't get a good bass out of the fatman, but it is a cheezy box 
anyway.  But you can get some good acid sounds out of it with enough 
effects.  You also got to build the thing.  The 777 would be a better 
box.  But the fatman cost @ $150.

I was using the MD for the bass, which it does well but it's hard to 
get the notes right.  I wish there was a bass machine on the md with 
real note parameters like the midi.  I guess idealy it would be like 
the B2 machine with "note" instead of "pitch".  Anyone know how the 
pitch is related to notes?
 
--- In elektron-users@y..., Scott Kellogg <scott@k...> wrote:
> Hello everybody -
> 
> I am researching a bunch of boxes to put together a live PA rig.  
My music
> runs the gamut as far as styles go.  The most important thing is 
that I am
> able to improvise on the gear.  
> 
> I have looked at just about everything, but keep getting drawn back 
to
> Machinedrum.  Grooveboxes are cool and all, but there's something 
about
> give my money to a big company like Roland or Yamaha that rubs me 
the wrong
> way.
> 
> I'd like to keep my kit as compact as possible, so it's easy to set 
up and
> tear down.  Anyway, if anyone would like to share their experiences 
with
> the MD in a live setting, that would be great.  I'm especially 
interested
> in people who gig with just the MD or perhaps the MD plus one other 
box and
> a mixer.  For example, the MD, a Future-Retro 777, a mixer, and 
maybe a

> Kaoss pad would make for a kill Acid setup.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> /Scott
> -- 
> :Scott Kellogg                         :
> :Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition:
> :http://www.bemc.net                  ::
> :ICQ #1556301                        :::

> anyway.  But you can get some good acid sounds out of it with enough 
> effects.  You also got to build the thing.  The 777 would be a better 
> box.  But the fatman cost @ $150.

People who own the 777 generally *really like* it.

/S
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:Scott Kellogg                         :
:Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition:
:http://www.bemc.net                  ::
:ICQ #1556301                        :::

Just got an Evolver over here and I must tell you guys that it KICKS FUCKING
ASS!!!  A truly experimental analog synthesizer.... and for the price you
just cannot beat it.  Its got an internal sequencer too... Im feeling it
will be great for live stuff.


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kellogg <scott@...>
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:28 AM

Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: Live Setup


>> anyway.  But you can get some good acid sounds out of it with enough
>> effects.  You also got to build the thing.  The 777 would be a better
>> box.  But the fatman cost @ $150.
>
>People who own the 777 generally *really like* it.
>
>/S
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>Anyone know how the pitch is related to notes?


http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/machinedrum

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Using the MD's 2 audio inputs, you tweek around with live sound coming from 
things like syths, samplers, other drum machines, acoustic instruments (like 
violin, cello, flute, guitar, etc.), or even live vocals (this sounds especially good 
when chopping them up on the MD's sequencer and applying delay and 
reverb). Also, the XOX sequencer interface is perfect for live sequencing; you 
can instantly edit a pattern DURING a performance!

Thanks.  I forgot about that thing.

--- In elektron-users@y..., "Polyhex ." <dsp_remote@h...> wrote:

> >Anyone know how the pitch is related to notes?
> 
> 
> http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/machinedrum
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--- In elektron-users@y..., "Dr. W." <rajajuju@m...> wrote:
> Just got an Evolver over here and I must tell you guys that it 
KICKS FUCKING
> ASS!!!  A truly experimental analog synthesizer.... and for the 
price you
> just cannot beat it.  Its got an internal sequencer too... Im 
feeling it
> will be great for live stuff.

  Who makes that?  I just tried to look it up and couldn't find it.

>   Who makes that?  I just tried to look it up and couldn't find it.

www.davesmithinstruments.com.

It's insane.  I want one.

/S
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:ICQ #1556301                        :::

How much did it cost?  Are you part of the beta test or are they
actually shipping now?  Or is it both?
--- In elektron-users@y..., "Dr. W." <rajajuju@m...> wrote:
> Just got an Evolver over here and I must tell you guys that it KICKS
FUCKING
> ASS!!!  A truly experimental analog synthesizer.... and for the
price you
> just cannot beat it.  Its got an internal sequencer too... Im feeling it
> will be great for live stuff.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kellogg <scott@k...>
> To: elektron-users@y... <elektron-users@y...>
> Date: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: Live Setup
> 
> 
> >> anyway.  But you can get some good acid sounds out of it with enough
> >> effects.  You also got to build the thing.  The 777 would be a better
> >> box.  But the fatman cost @ $150.
> >
> >People who own the 777 generally *really like* it.
> >
> >/S
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> >:Scott Kellogg                         :
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> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

> How much did it cost?  Are you part of the beta test or are they
> actually shipping now?  Or is it both?

I don't have one, but I can answer the question.  It's shipping, and it's
$500.

/s
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:ICQ #1556301                        :::

How much did it cost?  Are you part of the beta test or are they
actually shipping now?  Or is it both?

They are shipping, but you can expect up to 25% extra in dutys etc if you live outside the US.

regards,
David

Martedì, 26 nov 2002, alle 15:54 Europe/Rome, Scott Kellogg ha scritto:

>>   Who makes that?  I just tried to look it up and couldn't find it.
>
> www.davesmithinstruments.com.
>
> It's insane.  I want one.

Me too!

What to choose now?
Sidstation or Evolver???
There's only 1 Christmas!

SIDSTATION!!!
but it would be nice to have both :)
In a message dated 11/26/2002 11:23:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, federico.ciapi@... writes:

> What to choose now?
> Sidstation or Evolver???
> There's only 1 Christmas!

ok, a bit Off topic but

what's that cool with the evolver!?

listened to the demos and it sounds didn't impress me.
just analog wewewowo and stuff.


anyway, probably cool if you gyhoi,
to bad it didn't look that nice though.

>SIDSTATION!!!
>but it would be nice to have both :)
>In a message dated 11/26/2002 11:23:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>federico.ciapi@... writes:
>
>>  What to choose now?
>>  Sidstation or Evolver???
>  > There's only 1 Christmas!

> ok, a bit Off topic but
> 
> what's that cool with the evolver!?
 
well some people think it´s quite cool with the original proVS waves and sequencer, matrix etc. And by the fact that it´s dave smith who´s behind it.


> listened to the demos and it sounds didn't impress me.
> just analog wewewowo and stuff.

*lol*

yeah, right.

d

>what's that cool with the evolver!?
>
>listened to the demos and it sounds didn't impress me.
>just analog wewewowo and stuff.

Actually, I thought the same exact thing... in fact I would venture to say
that all the demos up on the website are crap.  But there is sooooo much
potential for programming on this thing its unbelievable.  First off the
sound quality is so pure and silky smooth, the filter has a nice even
response - and even when it self-oscillates it doesnt rob any low end.  Plus
its got an internal sequencer for each oscillator, which can play notes or
modulate ANY parameter.  But the real icing on the cake is the dual tunable
feedback loops - holy shit those things are the bomb.  Its like hendrix
meets satan.  THEN, there are also dual delay loops with two feedback points
for each - one that feeds back around and another that feeds the feed back
around.  Basically they are much cooler as sound shaping tools than a
straight delay FX.  On top of all that, it has stereo inputs and outputs, so
it could even be a multi-fx type box.  All in all, it is like a new breed of
analog (even though it is a hybrid) that caters much more to experimental
types of sounds than classic bleeps and pads and leads.  Trust me - you
could do whole albums by just overdubbing this synth for every part.  Its
just a great value for the $$$.  Im sad to say that it kicks the SIDs ass in
the value department.  But I have found that running the SID through the
Evolvers analog filters with crazy feedback is like a fucking industrial
meltdown.  Al Jourgensen hasnt even come close to this shit...

BTW - then inventor, Dave Smith, was the guy who designed ALL the Prophet
synths, the Korg Wavestation and also Reality, which was the first soft
synth.  You can totally hear the legacy of the Prophet banging around in
this box.

>
>BTW - then inventor, Dave Smith, was the guy who designed ALL the Prophet
>synths, the Korg Wavestation and also Reality, which was the first soft
>synth.  You can totally hear the legacy of the Prophet banging around in
>this box.


...and MIDI

Hey...

Both mahcines have nothing to do between each other!!!
Impossible to compare... 2 clearly different sounds!!!

Moreno RENGA

PS: Don't forget your BIRTHDAY!!!
(instead it is the same day as christmas day) He heee... =; D

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Federico Ciapi [mailto:federico.ciapi@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:23 PM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: Live Setup
> 
> > www.davesmithinstruments.com.
> > It's insane.  I want one.
> 
> Me too!
> What to choose now?
> Sidstation or Evolver???
> There's only 1 Christmas!

Are the MD keys sensible to pressure and velocity???

Moreno

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:25:56PM -0000, endlessnessisticman wrote:
> I was using the MD for the bass, which it does well but it's hard to 
> get the notes right.  I wish there was a bass machine on the md with 
> real note parameters like the midi.  I guess idealy it would be like 
> the B2 machine with "note" instead of "pitch".  Anyone know how the 
> pitch is related to notes?

http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/machinedrum/

(don't have b2 yet...)


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As I play around with my MD I realize how many different frequencies 
can be imagined with the different machines and the different 
parameters.  Don't try too hard.
I'm still hoping for some machine building software for this thing.  
Like reaktor, but of course simpler.

--- In elektron-users@y..., Crackpot <shifty@g...> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:25:56PM -0000, endlessnessisticman wrote:
> > I was using the MD for the bass, which it does well but it's hard 
to 
> > get the notes right.  I wish there was a bass machine on the md 
with 
> > real note parameters like the midi.  I guess idealy it would be 
like 
> > the B2 machine with "note" instead of "pitch".  Anyone know how 
the 
> > pitch is related to notes?
> 
> http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/machinedrum/
> 
> (don't have b2 yet...)
> 
> 
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